Harryseaess Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: The top part of the arm does count because you can score with the sleeveĀ Are all short sleeve shirts a regulated size? Or do some short sleeved shirts have longer sleeves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said: Except we've seen plenty of handballs given for those. I guess they decided to count it from the starting point of adidas stripes. Have we? Don't remember any in recent years since the law was changed, the sleeve part of the arm is no longer handballĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Only 5 minutes added on Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 De Paul has had an awful half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Plus, depending on how big a players shoulders are will impact how far down their arm the sleeve goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy From The Sunny Place Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Argentina will not go far if they are only trying to find Messi when crossing.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: There's plenty of inconsistency with VAR but don't think there's much with offsides. Lol, for me that is one of biggest issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Barry Cartman said: Have we? Don't remember any in recent years since the law was changed, the sleeve part of the arm is no longer handballĀ I was referring to handballs in general, I honestly don't know if they specifically said it's the new rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, ReggaeBwoy said: Lol, for me that is one of biggest issues. So do you want to introduce subjectivity into it because that's the alternative. Only offside if ahead and gaining an advantage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Ow, Farage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Harryseaess said: Plus, depending on how big a players shoulders are will impact how far down their arm the sleeve goes. When they say sleeve its guidance, meaning the top area of your arm, if someone had a longer sleeve and the ball hits closer to the elbow then thats up to interpretationĀ What is clear from that offside is Martinez's top part of his arm was offside, so he is offside, like I say we either have a instant automated system or we don't, its going to show mm decisionsĀ Edited November 22, 2022 by Barry Cartman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) the fact that you are arguing over armpit and shoulder sizes proves how much VAR has ruined the game and has trivialised it into an absolute nerdfest Edited November 22, 2022 by Wiggins Top Boys 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: When they say sleeve its guidance, meaning the top area of your arm, if someone had a longer sleeve and the ball hits closer to the elbow then thats up to interpretationĀ Force every team to have a neon yellow stripe on the shoulder to make offside calls easier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Romero getting done That was beautiful play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: When they say sleeve its guidance, meaning the top area of your arm, if someone had a longer sleeve and the ball hits closer to the elbow then thats up to interpretationĀ What is clear from that offside is Martinez's top part of his arm was offside, so he is offside, like I say we either have a instant automated system or we don't, its going to show mm decisionsĀ Offside shouldn't ever be down to interpretation though, it's offside or not, there should be no ambiguity. I agree Martinez is offside, but the rules need to be clearer and take the interpretation out of it. Edited November 22, 2022 by Harryseaess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 So far Argentina are no where near the standard of England.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Have we? Don't remember any in recent years since the law was changed, the sleeve part of the arm is no longer handballĀ Itās an ambiguous area, as where does sleeve start/end? From the little diagram they use for handball, thatās not where a sleeve starts/end, unless itās some small tight fit. Just looking at the FIFA actual wording, all moot anyway my point as it saysĀ āthe Law 12 definition for handball, whereby the arm ends at the bottom of the armpit, must be used when judging whether a player is in an offside positionā So sleeve is pointless. Might as well have it all as handball, that part of the body the no manās land of football it seems. Neither handball if it hits (depending on interpretation), but offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Argentina have underwhelmed for me and Saudi Arabia have been better than expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 If Saudis has had half a decent attacker, Argentina would be in trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Constantine said: If Saudis has had half a decent attacker, Argentina would be in trouble Bring back Sami Al-Jaber Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Souness and Keane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK22 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Roy Keane off on oneĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Keane and Souness Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Keane gonna deck Souness in a minute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Keane & SounessĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 I'm slightly enjoying Keane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Souness is a ****ing idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 People have said Argentina are one of the favourites but based on their starting XI i dunno why. Quite average imo.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Souness and Keane are definitely coming to blows before the group stage is over.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Keane and SounessĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Roy Keane is about to be sent home from yet another World CupĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Keane gonna deck Souness in a minute Could he? Souness isn't exactly a wimp. Would make great tv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 As ITV cut to the commercial break over Lauraās shoulder Keane has Souness by the throat pushing him over the edge of the studio boxĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: Could he? Souness isn't exactly a wimp. Would make great tv. Not since his heart bypass tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Btw I didnt actually see it happening. I kinda saw a picture of the KSA guy hugging the Argentinian around the waist so I assume it was a penalty. Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: Roy Keane is about to be sent home from yet another World CupĀ I thought it was fantastic last night when he was going on about the passion of representing your country at a World Cup, unless Micks in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Incredible line from the Saudis.Ā Impressive how brave they have been at that first half.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: People have said Argentina are one of the favourites but based on their starting XI i dunno why. Quite average imo.Ā They have been on a massive long unbeaten run. But people should remember that UEFA have sucked all the friendly spots away for the Nations League. So much less opportunity now for Argentina and Brazil to play top European opposition. In four and a half years since the last WC, Argentina have only played one friendly against Germany in 2019, then the Finalissima against Italy and a friendly against Estonia this June. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Rob1981 said: They have been on a massive long unbeaten run. But people should remember that UEFA have sucked all the friendly spots away for the Nations League. So much less opportunity now for Argentina and Brazil to play top European opposition. In four and a half years since the last WC, Argentina have only played one friendly against Germany in 2019, then the Finalissima against Italy and a friendly against Estonia this June. Also consider the fact that they've got their early goal. And that they're old. They won't be pushing it to score six or seven, they can afford it to **** around a bit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Keane and Souness still arguing.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: They have been on a massive long unbeaten run. But people should remember that UEFA have sucked all the friendly spots away for the Nations League. So much less opportunity now for Argentina and Brazil to play top European opposition. In four and a half years since the last WC, Argentina have only played one friendly against Germany in 2019, then the Finalissima against Italy and a friendly against Estonia this June. Have you ever watched South American qualifiers? Every match has the intensity of a big club derby game. People making conclusions after 45 minutes is hillarious. Apparently Brazil is the favorite, but Argentina that won the Copa at Maracana against them is bad. Hot take artists. Ā I really brought this upon myself. Edited November 22, 2022 by GunmaN1905 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren1983 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: Roy Keane is about to be sent home from yet another World CupĀ He's never been sent home form one - he left Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, JD nawrat said: People have said Argentina are one of the favourites but based on their starting XI i dunno why. Quite average imo.Ā On paper, it's definitely average but they are are unbeaten in 37 or so matches, actually play well as a team, won the Copa America and smashed Italy in the Finalissima. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Hell yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Cat, meet pigeons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Surprise equaliser. Good finish thoughĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Haha Saudis level. We have a game now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Oops, that wasnāt in the script Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Flappy Martinez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 that's a great finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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