latrell Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 How would i go about moving Russia to the Asian federation so there teams could compete in the Asian champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 You would need a rebuild of the Asian Continental Club Cups. From what I understand moving Russia to Asia won't be enough as previous versions doing that with Kazakhstan did not add Kazakhstan to the AFC Champions League. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Yeah, you'd have to rebuild the ACL from scratch. IIRC Europe is the only continent where the club competitions automatically update for new nations. I think moving russia to Asia would get them added to Asian international competitions though. Asian internationals are actually the best at updating for new countries and IIRC the russia block only exists in European competitions. Not sure where the guide for how to edit the continent tab is, but it's around somewhere if you look for it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Can you rebuild AFC continental comps with coefficients now? Or would you just have to set in stone the current numbers (4 teams from Japan etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 49 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: Can you rebuild AFC continental comps with coefficients now? Or would you just have to set in stone the current numbers (4 teams from Japan etc) You can, yes. But they're not visible in game. Countries can move up/down the coefficient table and earn/lose places but you can't check what each country's coefficients are or where they are in the table. It's really annoying actually. Plus it also breaks the dynamic league rep and prize money (which for me at least makes it pointless to do). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 the task seems way to huge for my limited editor skills ive only just mastered making my own cups. is there any step by step guides on how i could do this where every detail is explained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 hours ago, rusty217 said: You can, yes. But they're not visible in game. Countries can move up/down the coefficient table and earn/lose places but you can't check what each country's coefficients are or where they are in the table. It's really annoying actually. Plus it also breaks the dynamic league rep and prize money (which for me at least makes it pointless to do). Carlito changed something in my FM20 edit which made them visible, so maybe it's just a checkbox missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 is it possible in the editor just to delete a whole competition eg just deleting the Asian champions league and making my own Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, latrell said: is it possible in the editor just to delete a whole competition eg just deleting the Asian champions league and making my own You don't need to actually delete anything. If you just create your own rules for the ACL they'll override the default rules (as long as you set it to fixed format at least). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 When i finally get the game this is what i want to do. Might be tough to get everything exactly right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, oche balboa said: When i finally get the game this is what i want to do. Might be tough to get everything exactly right please share when you do i really want to play a long term save with this. when are you planning on buying the game ? Edited November 23, 2022 by latrell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 hours ago, latrell said: please share when you do i really want to play a long term save with this. when are you planning on buying the game ? Soon (1-2 Weeks time) Yeah i have a few ideas bouncing around in my empty head. Will let you know how its getting on 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Soon (1-2 Weeks time) Yeah i have a few ideas bouncing around in my empty head. Will let you know how its getting on fantastic i have faith in your empty head that you can make this a reality appreciate you giving this ago look forward to see how you get on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 would this file work in fm23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapoleon Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, latrell said: would this file work in fm23 Nah thats way too old would not work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted November 29, 2022 Author Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Zapoleon said: Nah thats way too old would not work. thought it would be a very long shot i can not even download the file i think the link has timed out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGC88 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Would reactivating the Soviet Union with all the Russian players, clubs, cities etc work? It's a big task, so I don't want to put in the time without knowing it would work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, MGC88 said: Would reactivating the Soviet Union with all the Russian players, clubs, cities etc work? It's a big task, so I don't want to put in the time without knowing it would work. @rusty217 has said this will not work i have almost giving up hope of this happening but @Wolf_pdhas said something in another thread that blows my mind about ireland pre 1920 could be a option. Edited December 1, 2022 by latrell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, MGC88 said: Would reactivating the Soviet Union with all the Russian players, clubs, cities etc work? I can only speak for FM22, but I have the Soviet Union active as the Soviet Union (Iron Curtain 22 with a complete FM22). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 The problem is they would not be able to compete in the Asian champions league without recreating all the rules for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) There are so many options in there like "show coefficient" and stuff that you might be able to recreate it properly. I think they're upping the foreigners allowed from next season so I wouldn't mind rebuilding it for that, but that's probably a much smaller job. (edit: looks like they accounted for it) Do North Korea have a coefficient? If we didn't mind starting that low I've considered unifying all of North Korea into a unified Korea Rep. and then re-writing over the North Korea ID with Russian Federation or something. Then figure something out for the old Russia. Would keep all the IDs and hard coding intact Edited December 2, 2022 by themodelcitizen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, themodelcitizen said: There are so many options in there like "show coefficient" and stuff that you might be able to recreate it properly. I think they're upping the foreigners allowed from next season so I wouldn't mind rebuilding it for that, but that's probably a much smaller job. Do North Korea have a coefficient? If we didn't mind starting that low I've considered unifying all of North Korea into a unified Korea Rep. and then re-writing over the North Korea ID with Russian Federation or something. Then figure something out for the old Russia. Would keep all the IDs and hard coding intact So you believe it is possible to get Russian teams playing in the Asian champions league ? By placing the whole Russian federation in north korea i only have limited editor knowledge i can make a league and a cup but it seems like what your saying would take weeks if not months of work to make happen or less i am mistaken, would be great if you decided to take the project on i have a obsession right now of playing a save with Russian teams in the Asian champions league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 You can get them in there now, it just breaks the (visible) coefficient system. But someone said there was a working version last year so it must be doable. Changing nations wholesale like that would fix the international issues too but yeah it's a huge project, maybe last resort if we can't get anything else working 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGC88 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I came across a file on the steam workshop with Russia all moved to Soviet Union and it seems to have worked. Currently running it and have got all the way to 2032 with no issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themodelcitizen Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I guess you'd try to put them in the West Zone, unless we can somehow code an exception for Dynamo Vladivostok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 hours ago, themodelcitizen said: I guess you'd try to put them in the West Zone, unless we can somehow code an exception for Dynamo Vladivostok Is it even possible to add them to the West Zone? I think not being able to assign new countries to zones is one of the reasons they aren't added to Asian club competitions. Although I believe the game can shift countries from 1 zone to another by default anyway, right? I don't believe it's possible to have zones in a custom created continental cup though. Last time I tried to do re-do the ACL I figured out a way to do the east/west split based on location of the clubs though, rather than the countries. That was a pretty good way to do it, made it dynamic as well with teams from countries like India being able to be on either side of the draw depending on how many eastern/western teams there were. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Russia to discuss potential Asian football move – official - RT https://www.rt.com › Sport News cant even open this page due to censorship but it seems like this will happen Edited December 2, 2022 by latrell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, latrell said: Russia to discuss potential Asian football move – official - RT https://www.rt.com › Sport News cant even open this page due to censorship but it seems like this will happen Yep, I think it's a strong possibility. TBH I don't see UEFA countries being willing to accept them back even after the war is over, so russia will probably have to move to AFC whether they want to or not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGC88 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 https://swentr.site/sport/567304-russia-to-discuss-move-uefa-asia/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, MGC88 said: https://swentr.site/sport/567304-russia-to-discuss-move-uefa-asia/ thanks for that my browser would not let me open the page, interesting read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Has anyone made any breakthroughs with doing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 hours ago, latrell said: Has anyone made any breakthroughs with doing this. The answer remains as it always has, you need to create an entirely new set of Asian club continental competitions. It's been that way for years. Have a look in the downloads section to see if anybody has done it. I think I've only seen custom versions for Europe, North America and Oceania though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 5 hours ago, rusty217 said: The answer remains as it always has, you need to create an entirely new set of Asian club continental competitions. It's been that way for years. Have a look in the downloads section to see if anybody has done it. I think I've only seen custom versions for Europe, North America and Oceania though. Thanks rusty ill have a look was hoping since its been a couple of months someone might of made it but there does not seem the interest in it for it to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, latrell said: Thanks rusty ill have a look was hoping since its been a couple of months someone might of made it but there does not seem the interest in it for it to happen. The main problem is it's just a tonne of work to do and most people aren't invested in russia enough to want to do it. I'd like to do it, more for Israel/Kazakhstan than russia, but I'm not interested in any of those countries enough to warrant the effort. Plus some things will be missed out due to hard coding which I'd really rather avoid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, rusty217 said: The main problem is it's just a tonne of work to do and most people aren't invested in russia enough to want to do it. I'd like to do it, more for Israel/Kazakhstan than russia, but I'm not interested in any of those countries enough to warrant the effort. Plus some things will be missed out due to hard coding which I'd really rather avoid. i understand maybe in the future it maybe easier to do when the Russia ban is over, until then ill hope some hardcore Russian football fan joins the forum with the same idea as i have but with the time to make it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, latrell said: i understand maybe in the future it maybe easier to do when the Russia ban is over, until then ill hope some hardcore Russian football fan joins the forum with the same idea as i have but with the time to make it happen The russian ban doesn't actually affect it. The issue is Asian competitions. Although they're getting changed in the near future anyway, so maybe the default competitions will be able to adjust for new countries then. Would be super easy to do if SI made some changes there. I've requested it on the feature request section of the site already too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Well I tried to create an International Cup with Russia involved but its doesn't seem to work. Is there a way round it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarsorto6 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Yea there is a way around it , I have a file that puts them in a old file of Carlitos afc champions league , but I also put Kazakhstan in Asia too 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Is it specifically Russia you're looking to play with in the AFC, or are you just looking to get Russia to play competitively in any continent? I have added them to a file I downloaded that had changed the world cup format to stay at 32 teams. I activated them for tournament qualifying which dropped San Marino down a bit. So San Marino and Andorra are often leap frogging each other in the world rankings in order to get them to play in the euros or world cup qualifying. Along with my own custom European club file I have russian clubs participating in European football as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 5 hours ago, omarsorto6 said: Yea there is a way around it , I have a file that puts them in a old file of Carlitos afc champions league , but I also put Kazakhstan in Asia too can you share this file please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 3 hours ago, \'Appy \'Ammer said: Is it specifically Russia you're looking to play with in the AFC, or are you just looking to get Russia to play competitively in any continent? I have added them to a file I downloaded that had changed the world cup format to stay at 32 teams. I activated them for tournament qualifying which dropped San Marino down a bit. So San Marino and Andorra are often leap frogging each other in the world rankings in order to get them to play in the euros or world cup qualifying. Along with my own custom European club file I have russian clubs participating in European football as well. i am looking for Russian football clubs to play in the AFC specifically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarsorto6 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, latrell said: i am looking for Russian football clubs to play in the AFC specifically. 000afcll.fmf000russia.fmfi cant get the russia file to work with the new update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 2 minutes ago, omarsorto6 said: 000afcll.fmf000russia.fmfi cant get the russia file to work with the new update ahhh damm i thought that might be the case ill give it a go though thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 02/03/2023 at 08:28, oche balboa said: Well I tried to create an International Cup with Russia involved but its doesn't seem to work. Is there a way round it There shouldn't be any issue with russia. I've added them to international competitions with no problem. They're still not allowed to play home games and don't show up fully in the FIFA rankings, but the competition works fine with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 hours ago, rusty217 said: There shouldn't be any issue with russia. I've added them to international competitions with no problem. They're still not allowed to play home games and don't show up fully in the FIFA rankings, but the competition works fine with them. I created a new international competition & included Russia but the game ignored them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 03/03/2023 at 02:54, rusty217 said: There shouldn't be any issue with russia. I've added them to international competitions with no problem. They're still not allowed to play home games and don't show up fully in the FIFA rankings, but the competition works fine with them. Doesn't seem to work Here it is anyway Russia International Cup.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty217 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, oche balboa said: Doesn't seem to work Here it is anyway Russia International Cup.fmf 16.18 kB · 1 download Nothing wrong with russia there. Use Get Qualified Teams For Comp in your Teams section. NOT Lowest Qualified Teams From End Of List. The latter doesn't remove teams from the list so the teams knocked out in Stage 0 just get added back into Stage 1 instead of the 4 remaining teams (1 of which is russia). Make that change and all the missing teams will correctly appear in the competition. Also, FYI Cup stages can have more than 1 round. If you had every round in 1 stage, rather than 1 stage per round, this issue wouldn't have happened either. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Thank you. It worked. Need to tweak it as Ukraine are involved lol. @rusty217you are a legend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
latrell Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 22 hours ago, oche balboa said: Thank you. It worked. Need to tweak it as Ukraine are involved lol. @rusty217you are a legend Hi oche balboa what does your file do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 10/03/2023 at 19:14, latrell said: Hi oche balboa what does your file do Hi mate. It just added a competition which is "Hosted" by Russia and adds teams such as China, North Korea etc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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