Darren Moores Mum Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Hopefully just precautionary. Shouldn't have been left on in the first place. The game was won at that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 Christ, why did they let him play on for half an hour when we already 3-0 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 If he's injured I hope he's flat out injured. He's awful when playing through a knock or minor injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Even if it’s a 2 week injury, that’s out till QFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Say Kane is out. Who replaces? Wilson like for like. Rashford has played down middle for England and has more international experience. Or maybe a wild card and play Foden through middle. Does Gareth have a false 9 in him Edited November 23, 2022 by skybluedave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I think Wilson probably gave his chances a massive boost with the unselfish set up of Grealish against Iran, when he could easily have shot himself. Even though Kane didn't score, he has a goal threat which the opposition are forced to counter. I don't think Foden offers the same, Wilson does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 hours ago, skybluedave said: If he's injured I hope he's flat out injured. He's awful when playing through a knock or minor injury. I agree with this. He seemed to carry an injury in 2018 and was largely anonymous in the knockout rounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Kane also looked poor in the groups in 2020, Southgate makes most attackers look bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, skybluedave said: Say Kane is out. Who replaces? Wilson like for like. Rashford has played down middle for England and has more international experience. Or maybe a wild card and play Foden through middle. Does Gareth have a false 9 in him Stick Rashford through the middle I reckon. Gareth with go with the previous England experience. Same reason he brought Dier on at CB the other day and not Coady or Ben White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) I think it will be fine with Kane (based on Southgate's initial response) and this is entirely precautionary to just check there isn't anything which could be made worse. Hope that's the case and it's just reporters trying to make a bigger story of it. Edited November 23, 2022 by ginnybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Would be crazy to risk him if theres a doubt, team should easily be beating USA without him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, skybluedave said: Say Kane is out. Who replaces? Wilson like for like. Rashford has played down middle for England and has more international experience. Or maybe a wild card and play Foden through middle. Does Gareth have a false 9 in him Wilson pretty injury prone, really surprising we didn't take 3 frontline strikers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnzy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I guess they consider Rashford a 9 if needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Wilson will be fine to replace. Then come Wales game, shouldn’t need to play again and could be Rashford (or vice versa). Then L16, we should comfortably beat whoever comes 2nd out of Qatar/Ecuador/Senegal. Come QF and potential France the issue then if Kane is not 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 USA couldn’t cope with Moore, so maybe Wilson the more physical option may be better. Either way, just keep it 4-3-3 please, Gareth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Southgate to wear tinfoil hat for next game after ban on armband Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Would fancy Wilson running behind that USA defence to be honest. No point in risking Kane when we don’t have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Rashford has a ****ing massive nose. Is that racist to say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Would definitely start Wilson over Rashford as a nine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 Looks like the scan is clear 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Phew...hopefully we can be in a position to rest players like him for the final group game anyway. Edited November 23, 2022 by ginnybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Sterling and Trippier with knocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Kane and Maguire available for Fridays game per the BBC. Still no Maddison though who is yet to train with the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 24, 2022 Author Share Posted November 24, 2022 Yeah, Gareth has confirmed Kane is definitely fit for tomorrow. Not sure if Walker has a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Maddison isn’t going to make a training session till like knockout out rounds isn’t he? Odds on the injury and recovery being longer than disclosed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Bit of a waste of a pick sadly. Not that you really notice with 26 man squads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astafjevs Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Doesn't really matter about Maddison, does it? There's enough there to bring off the bench and rotate that he can stay injured for the whole tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Astafjevs said: Doesn't really matter about Maddison, does it? There's enough there to bring off the bench and rotate that he can stay injured for the whole tournament. Yeah it's not going to be an issue, except for the player of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Matchday and no nerves whatsoever. What fresh hell is this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Speak for yourself. Nerves kicking in now. The horrible cycle in between games. First day after a game I'm on top of the world, 2nd day little less, 3rd day few jitters kick in. Matchday arrives, full on nerves 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) So relaxing the day after a win in the groups then it goes downhill from there. I'm nervous and then get more nervous when I think we should win. Just hoping results go right and we can go into the last game already group winners, and the final game is just a chance for squad rotation. Edited November 25, 2022 by ginnybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Just hoping results go right and we can go into the last game already group winners How about this... Wales beat Iran, then England beat USA. Engand - 6 Wales - 4 USA - 1 Iran - 0 Wales stil need to play for something to stay ahead of USA and not rely on GD... so we can put a complete second XI out, take it easy, and let them top the group. Let them play France instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 tbf potentially we could finish first and have to play Senegal and then France. Or finish 2nd and play Holland and then Saudi Arabia (or Denmark). Might prefer 2nd there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Hard to know really. I'm not entirely serious... We were very lucky four years ago in being the last group to finish... so when people talked about "choosing" the KO path we knew definitely what the options were. This time you are relying on too many other results... we try and "avoid" France and sod's law they end up losing to Tunisia on MD3 or something and finish as runner-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 I know, and I agree. Also I want the big games. I want to play the France's and Brazil's etc. What the World Cup is about. It's also good to keep winning. I feel like there are quite a few examples of teams who win first 2, rest everyone for 3rd game and then lose first knockout round And I don't think we threw the game against Belgium in 2018. We just both fielded 2nd strings and theirs was better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Luke Shaw mansplaining Werewolf on 5 live! Presenter pretending to be really interested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, The_jagster said: Luke Shaw mansplaining Werewolf on 5 live! Presenter pretending to be really interested Werewolf as in Mafia/Werewolf game? Get him on the forum, @Gizzy write him some fanmail or sommat! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bootador said: Werewolf as in Mafia/Werewolf game? Get him on the forum, @Gizzy write him some fanmail or sommat! Yup, the squad are playing it! He calls it Wolf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Oh man, you got a link? I have to hear this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bootador said: Oh man, you got a link? I have to hear this BBc sounds, about 40:25 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Christ, he's really into it Not sure Jack Grealish will get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adhikapp Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Luke Shaw might be a cracking nobber tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax Dave Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Pre-Match poo on work time, then off to the pub for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Unchanged team CONFIRMED Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 That was back to peak Southgate. A side that had no clue how to control the ball or develop attacking movements. Dreadful. Back to 3-4-3/3-5-2 it is and hope for the best. Going to be something when we go through a World Cup and Foden doesn’t start a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony7 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Southgate got the England job not because of what he achieved at club manager level but because he is English and people didn't want a non English manager A decent manager would have won last year's euros and maybe the world cup. England's problem is get rid of Southgate who do you get in and England are not blessed with great managers at the moment. Howe won't leave Newcastle at the moment so can't think of anyone else and certainly not with European experience. I'm not sure lampard has done any worse than Southgate at club level. I can recall Southgate reaching Europa league final I think but other than that he doesn't have much experience other than working in the background with England set up England fans want exciting football and win every game. It's rare a team plays exciting football and wins tournaments especially international level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantine Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) It wouldn't happen in a million years but... Gareth Ainsworth. Hear me out. English. Great bloke all around. Tactically astute. Pragmatic. Likeable as ****. Did wonders without any money. Lacks experience on the highest level but I'd take it over Southgate every time. Edited November 26, 2022 by Constantine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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