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In my opinion this should be a customisable option. There’s no reason why move into channels should be a forced preset for all st roles except for false nine and poacher. I want my advanced forward for example to stay in the central channel and do everything an advanced forward would do apart from running the channels

what is Si’s logic behind this because I don’t understand it at all.

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2 minutes ago, _mxrky said:

I want my advanced forward for example to stay in the central channel and do everything an advanced forward would do apart from running the channels

then you need a poacher. The description you gave sounds to me more like a poacher than an advanced forward 

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Just now, DarJ said:

then you need a poacher. The description you gave sounds to me more like a poacher than an advanced forward 

Well not really because poachers have dribble less and take fewer risks hard coded

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3 minutes ago, _mxrky said:

Well not really because poachers have dribble less and take fewer risks hard coded

fair point. 

you can give a trait to your AF to tell him not to move into channels 

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Always remember that just because a player has an instruction hard coded (or asked to do so by us managers as an optional PI) doesn’t mean they’ll always be doing it.  They’ll just try to do so a bit more often.  And even then that’ll only happen without other external influences, for example a player’s position in a formation (such as a lone striker in the STC position vs two strikers at STCL/R).  There are loads of factors which will have an influence on player behaviour.

To answer the question re. SI’s logic it’s because that’s how strikers tend to be trained in real life.  One of the skills they learn is running the channels but, as described above, they won’t always look to run the channels - it’s just one of the weapons in their arsenal and won’t be used all the time.

In terms of asking the question, have you therefore noticed issues on the pitch with your Advanced Forward’s movement?

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39 minutes ago, herne79 said:

Always remember that just because a player has an instruction hard coded (or asked to do so by us managers as an optional PI) doesn’t mean they’ll always be doing it.  They’ll just try to do so a bit more often.  And even then that’ll only happen without other external influences, for example a player’s position in a formation (such as a lone striker in the STC position vs two strikers at STCL/R).  There are loads of factors which will have an influence on player behaviour.

To answer the question re. SI’s logic it’s because that’s how strikers tend to be trained in real life.  One of the skills they learn is running the channels but, as described above, they won’t always look to run the channels - it’s just one of the weapons in their arsenal and won’t be used all the time.

In terms of asking the question, have you therefore noticed issues on the pitch with your Advanced Forward’s movement?

Advanced forward will often vacate the central channel in favour of running the channels which means I’m sometimes unable to combine centrally in the middle of the pitch. When I’m attacking all 5 channels I mostly want my striker staying central. In my opinion with move into channels drift too much  to one side. Especially when I already have roles doing the exact same thing

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So... Let me see if I get it right: You want a static advanced forward who will stay with his man instead of going a little bit to the side, then he will risk even more by trying to beat this man. Did I get it? Anyway to get serious, it's not the role that does this, it's the attack duty imo. It seems that you want someone with a support duty like dlf-su or pressing forward - su or f9.

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2 hours ago, Poison said:

So... Let me see if I get it right: You want a static advanced forward who will stay with his man instead of going a little bit to the side, then he will risk even more by trying to beat this man. Did I get it? Anyway to get serious, it's not the role that does this, it's the attack duty imo. It seems that you want someone with a support duty like dlf-su or pressing forward - su or f9.

No what I want is a forward I’m that occupies the centre backs in the central channel predominantly without drifting to the sides to much. Basically a false nine in terms of its positioning vertically, but with a higher mentality 

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15 hours ago, _mxrky said:

No what I want is a forward I’m that occupies the centre backs in the central channel predominantly without drifting to the sides to much. Basically a false nine in terms of its positioning vertically, but with a higher mentality 

can´t you tick in the option to hold position?

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16 hours ago, _mxrky said:

No what I want is a forward I’m that occupies the centre backs in the central channel predominantly without drifting to the sides to much. Basically a false nine in terms of its positioning vertically, but with a higher mentality 

A Poacher or a Target Man will do the job

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On 23/09/2022 at 17:44, _mxrky said:

No what I want is a forward I’m that occupies the centre backs in the central channel predominantly without drifting to the sides to much. Basically a false nine in terms of its positioning vertically, but with a higher mentality 

I think you might want a DLF(A)?

But re. your original question, as has been said, the game reflects roles that are trained IRL.

Another consideration - if SI allowed 100% customisation of roles and duties, it'd be impossible for AI "managers" to cope with that when playing your side as it'd be against infinite combinations.

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4 saat önce, Lord Rowell said:

But re. your original question, as has been said, the game reflects roles that are trained IRL.

False Nine used to have the MIC instruction but DLFs didn't, now it's vice versa. For what reason SI decided to change that? I don't believe it was based on real-life training of the said roles. 

 

But i completely agree with the second point you made. Full customization would create a mess, however i think "Move Into Channels" should not be something that is locked-in for vast majority of ST roles.

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