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coordination is a very important skill for a soccer player (More than a basketball player)

Do you think that's mental attributes?

For example,  Composure, Concentration ...

 

I think it can be added as a new attributes  in the next series(fm2023)

I'd like to hear other people's opinions

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Team cohesion is pretty much the overarching figure in this. While it's not a player attribute, and more of a team attribute, it has a significant impact on how well your players work together in pretty much everything, and essentially a bonus to your players anticipation. If you have excellent cohesion, everyone will have a good idea of what everyone else on the team is going to do, and go about their business with each other in an efficient manner. If it's abysmal, expect them to knock the ball out of bounds constantly while trying to get it to a teammate. Partnerships are also quite helpful to develop in this regard.

As far as stats, It kind of varies for what's going on at the moment, and what the objective is, but good anticipation and decisions are of huge importance for a team to function well together, and to a lesser extent teamwork. Anticipation is the key stat for any player to get clued in to what is going to happen next, whether it has to do with the opposition or fellow teammates. Decisions is the key stat in regards to what a player should do at any given moment, which is partially fed by anticipation. The teamwork skill is essentially the other side of anticipation, making players a bit more predictable to their teammates as they adhere to the agreed upon tactical instructions better. In that sense, it can kind of work to counteract poor cohesion, assuming your players have good teamwork skills, and select roles that utilize teamwork as a general rule.

Leadership is an odd one in that it can be good and or bad. Players affect others around them mentally when they have high leadership, and so the personality of that leader can be quite important. A good leader that is inspired and motivated will spread that to other teammates in proximity, improving their decisions. On the other hand, a good leader that is having a mental breakdown can have cascading calamitous effects on composure. Determined leaders with high pressure handling abilities make good captains, and your captain is, of course, the most crucial leader on the pitch, having far more impact.

Composure and concentration really more impact whether or not a player will mess up and make a bad decision in a high pressure circumstance. Think of them as the ability to deal with the chaos within the player, and the ability to deal with the chaos surrounding the player. If you have everyone scrambling around the penalty box, and one guy kicks the ball into the back of his teammates head right in front of him while shooting at the goal, that's likely a lapse of concentration. If he's in a one on one situation and simply makes a terrible shot that flies off into the stands, it's probably a composure issue. Bravery can cause some teamwork issues when a player has lapses, and does not do what is expected because of fear of putting himself in a dangerous situation. Usually not a big deal, but if a striker is consistently not going for those through balls because of the big scary defenders, that mismatch of expectations can be a major issue.

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Would also add, I think depending on your definition of what coordination stands for, from my personal understanding I would expect 'Balance' to play a prominent role in this as well. Some of those above such as anticipation and decisions allow them to make the right choice, but things like balance allow the player to say turn or move in a smooth and fluid way to perform said decision (e.g. a full back sharply turning and running to cover an opposing players movement). 

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4 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

또한 조정이 무엇을 의미하는지에 대한 정의에 따라 제 개인적인 이해로 볼 때 '균형'도 이 부분에서 중요한 역할을 할 것으로 기대합니다. 예상과 결정과 같은 위의 사항 중 일부는 올바른 선택을 할 수 있지만 균형과 같은 것은 플레이어가 해당 결정을 수행하기 위해 부드럽고 유동적인 방식으로 회전 또는 이동을 말할 수 있도록 합니다(예: 풀백이 날카롭게 회전하고 커버하기 위해 달리는 등). 상대 선수의 움직임). 

 

8 hours ago, Prepper_Jack said:

Team cohesion is pretty much the overarching figure in this. While it's not a player attribute, and more of a team attribute, it has a significant impact on how well your players work together in pretty much everything, and essentially a bonus to your players anticipation. If you have excellent cohesion, everyone will have a good idea of what everyone else on the team is going to do, and go about their business with each other in an efficient manner. If it's abysmal, expect them to knock the ball out of bounds constantly while trying to get it to a teammate. Partnerships are also quite helpful to develop in this regard.

As far as stats, It kind of varies for what's going on at the moment, and what the objective is, but good anticipation and decisions are of huge importance for a team to function well together, and to a lesser extent teamwork. Anticipation is the key stat for any player to get clued in to what is going to happen next, whether it has to do with the opposition or fellow teammates. Decisions is the key stat in regards to what a player should do at any given moment, which is partially fed by anticipation. The teamwork skill is essentially the other side of anticipation, making players a bit more predictable to their teammates as they adhere to the agreed upon tactical instructions better. In that sense, it can kind of work to counteract poor cohesion, assuming your players have good teamwork skills, and select roles that utilize teamwork as a general rule.

Leadership is an odd one in that it can be good and or bad. Players affect others around them mentally when they have high leadership, and so the personality of that leader can be quite important. A good leader that is inspired and motivated will spread that to other teammates in proximity, improving their decisions. On the other hand, a good leader that is having a mental breakdown can have cascading calamitous effects on composure. Determined leaders with high pressure handling abilities make good captains, and your captain is, of course, the most crucial leader on the pitch, having far more impact.

Composure and concentration really more impact whether or not a player will mess up and make a bad decision in a high pressure circumstance. Think of them as the ability to deal with the chaos within the player, and the ability to deal with the chaos surrounding the player. If you have everyone scrambling around the penalty box, and one guy kicks the ball into the back of his teammates head right in front of him while shooting at the goal, that's likely a lapse of concentration. If he's in a one on one situation and simply makes a terrible shot that flies off into the stands, it's probably a composure issue. Bravery can cause some teamwork issues when a player has lapses, and does not do what is expected because of fear of putting himself in a dangerous situation. Usually not a big deal, but if a striker is consistently not going for those through balls because of the big scary defenders, that mismatch of expectations can be a major issue.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

Would also add, I think depending on your definition of what coordination stands for

Good catch, heh, as coordination can both mean coordination in terms of working together as a team, or just the plain virtue of being well coordinated (generally meaning they have some measure of balance and agility to perform complex movements).

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It's all about proprioception. I doubt that FM implements such things in any great detail, but as mentioned, balance, and physical characteristics generally have an important part to play, but then vision & flair affect the ability to use the ball positively/creatively, while things like technique/first touch indicate a relationship between thought and successful execution.

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10 hours ago, du Garbandier said:

그것은 모두  고유감각 에 관한 것 입니다. FM이 그런 것들을 아주 세세하게 구현하는지 의심스럽습니다. 그러나 언급한 바와 같이 균형과 신체적 특성은 일반적으로 중요한 역할을 하지만 비전과 재능은 공을 긍정적/창조적으로 사용하는 능력에 영향을 미치는 반면 기술/ 첫 번째 터치는 생각과 성공적인 실행 사이의 관계를 나타냅니다.

 

11 hours ago, Prepper_Jack said:

Good catch, heh, as coordination can both mean coordination in terms of working together as a team, or just the plain virtue of being well coordinated (generally meaning they have some measure of balance and agility to perform complex movements).

 

thanks

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