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I was wondering if it is possible to play 4-3-3 in offense and defend in a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 asymmetric were one of the 8's push up to support the striker and the 6 will push up to cover the space left behind by the 8 if not this is really something that should be implemented in the future release to allow the user full control over tactics like in the real world, there is already the option in games such as FIFA and eFootball/PES.

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7 hours ago, system876 said:

I was wondering if it is possible to play 4-3-3 in offense and defend in a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 asymmetric were one of the 8's push up to support the striker and the 6 will push up to cover the space left behind by the 8 if not this is really something that should be implemented in the future release to allow the user full control over tactics like in the real world, there is already the option in games such as FIFA and eFootball/PES.

The formation is the players' starting positions and largely the defensive shape. Your shape in possession will be affected by the roles and duties you choose.

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14 horas atrás, system876 disse:

I was wondering if it is possible to play 4-3-3 in offense and defend in a 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 asymmetric were one of the 8's push up to support the striker and the 6 will push up to cover the space left behind by the 8 if not this is really something that should be implemented in the future release to allow the user full control over tactics like in the real world, there is already the option in games such as FIFA and eFootball/PES.

In terms of match engine/tactical system it is not possible, you cannot select a different formation for each phase of the game. I agree that it would be a nice addition, but it would have to be done very carefully in order to not overcomplicate things.

However...there are ways of doing it in game. For example, I have a friend that designed a 4-4-1-1 which is a 4-4-1-1 in defend but behaves like a 4-4-2 in attack, using a Mezzala and a Shadow Striker. I also created a 4-4-1-1 which used to behave like a 4-2-3-1 when attacking, it was a matter of adjusting the two midfield lateral players using attacking duties and PIs.

Another examples: you can use a 4-4-2 with an inverted winger/wide midfielder cutting inside with the attack duty and create like a 4-3-3 when attacking. Or a 4-1-4-1 DM Wide which defends like a deep 4-1-4-1, maybe a 4-2-3-1 in attack which behaves like a 4-4-1-1 when defending. It needs a little bit of tweaking, testing and patience but with the right use of roles and duties it can be done for sure.

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What you describe sounds less "fluid" per se, and more like something that is simply structured but transitional. Fluid football is somewhat modeled in game by the use of lots of roaming roles (or roaming personal instructions). Roaming players will typically wander around looking for the best place to receive a ball. Real world fluid football tends to rotate players in and out of position more than the game generally does, however.. though if you do "be more expressive" and use a lot of roaming roles, this can be quite fluid, and sometimes you'll see your strikers crossing to your wingers. Perhaps even more concerning things... like centers pushing forward acting as your striker.

But, if you want a more structured approach, you can kind of do that with a mix of personal tactical instructions, roles, and player traits. If you want a central midfielder to be more like an attacking midfielder or striker in offense, you can give him instructions like "get further forward" and "moves into channels". For central roles you can specify to go wide, and for wide players you can tell them to either stay wide or come inside. Some roles, like the inverted wingback, are more hardcoded and situational. If you have a 4-2-4 with two inverted wingbacks, it essentially becomes a 4-2-2-4 2DM while in offense, and reverts to the 4-2-4 in defense. Others, like the generic Central Midfielder and Attacking Midfielder roles are more modular and customizable in their behavior, but you're not really going to get the flexibility of, say, making that central midfielder behave like an attacking winger while the team has the ball. You might be able to get them wider and cross more, but it's not really going to be the same.

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