Why you shouldn't trust the in-game heatmap

[Andrew Marines]

I've always liked analyzing my matches and, partecipating at  online tournaments, made me go nerd on advanced analisys. Watched for a lot of time the heatmaps of the single players, just to understand how the role worked/behaved but that always felt a bit strange.maybe i got too much spare time but i actually created a script that generates for me the heatmap based on the player's movement.

Tried and still trying, i found out the heatmap doesn't actually work as intended.

Proof:

In-game Heatmap of a CM(S):

Calculated:

 

Box-Box:

 

POACHER:

If the heatmap is based only when the player has the ball that is an HUGE mistake that should be fixed.

Edited May 6 by Andrew Marines

[Johnny Ace]

Might be worth reporting this one on the bugs board @Andrew Marinesso the devs can have a look at it 

[DarJ]

I could be wrong but in fm doesn’t the heat map show where certain events occurred so for your CM it would be where he made tackles, interceptions, blocks etc so it’s not the movement the player makes. I could be wrong .

[Andrew Marines]

22 minuti fa, DarJ ha scritto:

I could be wrong but in fm doesn’t the heat map show where certain events occurred so for your CM it would be where he made tackles, interceptions, blocks etc so it’s not the movement the player makes. I could be wrong .

No, it doesn't make sense. And even in italian the text is "zona di copertura" -->covered zone. So it makes sense to display the part of the pitch where the player has been more frequently

[herne79]

13 minutes ago, Andrew Marines said:

No, it doesn't make sense. And even in italian the text is "zona di copertura" -->covered zone. So it makes sense to display the part of the pitch where the player has been more frequently

It could well be an area for improvement, just make sure you’re comparing apples with apples.  FM doesn’t always calculate things in the same manner as real life - for example possession in FM is calculated differently (actual time on the ball) vs real life (number of passes).  No idea if that is true for the heat maps but it wouldn’t surprise me.

[Andrew Marines]

8 minuti fa, herne79 ha scritto:

It could well be an area for improvement, just make sure you’re comparing apples with apples.  FM doesn’t always calculate things in the same manner as real life - for example possession in FM is calculated differently (actual time on the ball) vs real life (number of passes).  No idea if that is true for the heat maps but it wouldn’t surprise me.

Still doesn't make sense considering the title too tho

Edited May 5 by Andrew Marines

[H_a_a_k_o_n]

Have nothing to contribute with, but quite interesting. How are you able to track every player by a script? Play every match on full?

[Andrew Marines]

14 minuti fa, H_a_a_k_o_n ha scritto:

Have nothing to contribute with, but quite interesting. How are you able to track every player by a script? Play every match on full?

If you go into the analysis at the end of a match, you'll see a sub-menu called "movements". If you select a player, you'll see the movements of the player(the orange line) at a fast speed. I used that

[Andrew Marines]

EDIT: Added poacher. That is so hecking wrong

[Johnny Ace]

Wonder if this is an on the ball thing? The heat map only shows areas where the player touched the ball or something, but that Poacher heat map looks completely wrong as he's shown in the corner flag yet his snail trail has him no where near there at any point

Report it anyway, it won't be looked at on here 

 

[Andrew Marines]

15 minuti fa, Johnny Ace ha scritto:

Report it anyway, it won't be looked at on here 

Could you give me the link to the section? i can't find it

 

[Johnny Ace]

2 minutes ago, Andrew Marines said:

Could you give me the link to the section? i can't find it

 

Sure mate

https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2022-bugs-forum/565_match-engine-art-animations-facegen-and-manager-creator/

[Jack Sarahs]

Hi @Andrew Marines ,

 

Thanks for raising this on the forums I thought I would reply here as more people may come across this issue and find this post first.

The heat map is a touch map and is designed to show when you're players touch the ball.

We are currently investigating the accuracy of the heat map, but just to reiterate it is designed to show only touches on the ball

 

Thank you

Jack

[Andrew Marines]

22 ore fa, Jack Sarahs ha scritto:

Hi @Andrew Marines ,

 

Thanks for raising this on the forums I thought I would reply here as more people may come across this issue and find this post first.

The heat map is a touch map and is designed to show when you're players touch the ball.

We are currently investigating the accuracy of the heat map, but just to reiterate it is designed to show only touches on the ball

 

Thank you

Jack

Can you then change the labels in italian or add a general heatmap? like this it's not that useful and the label "zona di copertura"doesn't make sense at all.