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1 hour ago, HUNT3R said:

You're shortening passing of the D and DM strata. It doesn't matter where they are.

Out of interest - is this type of info/knowledge all available/stored anywhere (e.g. SI having a manual) or is this just from experience playing the game/being told on the forum? Delete if irrelevant, thanks!

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4 minutes ago, typ2603 said:

Out of interest - is this type of info/knowledge all available/stored anywhere (e.g. SI having a manual) or is this just from experience playing the game/being told on the forum? Delete if irrelevant, thanks!

Some info are in guides (see the pinned topics) and some comes from information gathered on the forum, speaking to SI directly and just experience.

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5 minutes ago, fraudiola said:

so its not doing anything other than shortening the passes?

The team does re-arrange when there's a goal kick so that you can pass to your defense easier.

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1 hour ago, HUNT3R said:

The team does re-arrange when there's a goal kick so that you can pass to your defense easier.

so nothing aside from that, theres no mechanism stopping clearances aside from reducing passer length? and does it shorten the passing length TI by a percentage or just flat out short passing regardless of long you set your passing length TI. 

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I use POOD and the other day I noticed that the team was forcing a hoofball upfront. How is this possible? My team plays a possession style, we need to move the ball around...why this hoofing started happening?

Then I noticed that I had removed my DLP-D for a CM-D, I put back the DLP-D and the hoofing was greatly reduced (at least on comprehensive highlights). And when the team was more compact (a combination of roles/duties and defensive line/line of engagement), POOD worked even better for a patient building from the back.

I think the best answer for your question is "it depends", I think there is no tactical instruction that works in complete isolation from the others.

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13 hours ago, Tsuru said:

I use POOD and the other day I noticed that the team was forcing a hoofball upfront. How is this possible? My team plays a possession style, we need to move the ball around...why this hoofing started happening?

Then I noticed that I had removed my DLP-D for a CM-D, I put back the DLP-D and the hoofing was greatly reduced (at least on comprehensive highlights). And when the team was more compact (a combination of roles/duties and defensive line/line of engagement), POOD worked even better for a patient building from the back.

I think the best answer for your question is "it depends", I think there is no tactical instruction that works in complete isolation from the others.

The problem of hoofing usually arises when people use an aggressive mentality (which already has fairly short passing at the back, with shorter passing AND PooD. You may up asking players to play so short, there aren't realistic passing options within that radius and so they hoof it.

I can see two possible reasons why you'd have less of that with a DLP. Either his creative freedom (as part of the role) helps to make decisions outside what's instructed or maybe the fact that the DLP drifts around wanting the ball, helps to create more opportunities for a pass.

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