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[FM22] Real Life USA Pyramid - MLS,USLC,USL1,NISA,NCAA I, NCAA II, NCAA III, High School


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First of all, this is a big undertaking. I’ve never went this deep into the editor before creating something like this. This is based on real life, so drafts, trades, salary cap etc still exist as they do in real life. Real players, staff, referees, media will be included as far as possible. There will also be an add on to include extra cities/towns in every US State. 
 

Every state will have ‘semi pro’ leagues as well as High School leagues, including a state championship. Max age for HS teams will be 18 and Minimum age will be 14. Max age for college will be 24 and minimum age will be 17. That will be the same for NCAAI, II & III. I'm also thinking of including NAIA Colleges too, but this will still remain a WIP.

The following has been completed:

Correct wages for players & staff has been implemented - now fixed. 

College and High School teams will have all correct coaches as of 18/05/2022, all teams in these leagues now manageable. 

Will also include players for college teams and lower USA leagues. 

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Over 100+ New competitions, plus 100+ teams. 
 

 

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16 hours ago, EnigMattic1 said:

That is a hell of a lot of work. Looking forward to seeing the end result.

Out of curiosity, do you plan on doing anything with MLS Next and Next PRO? 

They will be included at some point. Perhaps not immediately, but in an update of some sort. :) 

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44 minutes ago, fifteenminutes said:

They will be included at some point. Perhaps not immediately, but in an update of some sort. :) 

I know Next PRO was added in the winter update, how accurate it is, I don't know. As far as Next goes, I have absolutely no idea how that is set up. I had a quick look and all I could find was that there is around 560 teams from 133 clubs across various age groups. I must stress though, it was a "quick" look 🤣

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17 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said:

I know Next PRO was added in the winter update, how accurate it is, I don't know. As far as Next goes, I have absolutely no idea how that is set up. I had a quick look and all I could find was that there is around 560 teams from 133 clubs across various age groups. I must stress though, it was a "quick" look 🤣

I have no idea what I’m gonna do yet. I may erase Next Pro and just create both from scratch and see if it works. 😂

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3 hours ago, fifteenminutes said:

I just wanted to add as a side note. I do work full time Monday- Friday, so although I will be working on this when I get home, progress may be slightly slow depending on how tired I am after work. Apologies! 

You don't have to apologise mate, as good as this game is, it is still a game. Life always comes first. 

3 hours ago, fifteenminutes said:

I have no idea what I’m gonna do yet. I may erase Next Pro and just create both from scratch and see if it works. 😂

Probably be the best option if you do decide to use Next/Next Pro as I don't know how accurate what they have actually is. I know that Fort Lauderdale need renaming though as they are now Inter Miami CF II. 

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Before I start to make sure everything is working together, to minimise as many problems as I can, I am going to create every league before I do anything else.

I have done NCAA I & I am currently working on NCAA II. :)

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36 minutes ago, fifteenminutes said:

Before I start to make sure everything is working together, to minimise as many problems as I can, I am going to create every league before I do anything else.

I have done NCAA I & I am currently working on NCAA II. :)

It's always a good idea to have a plan. Looking forward to this. 

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2 hours ago, dino88 said:

that'll be pretty impressive, do you have an ETA on the release?

Unfortunately not. Next thursday I go on holiday so i wont't be able to work on it for a week -- so that'll delay it again slightly. 

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1 hour ago, dino88 said:

this will be an amazing project for fm23 as well! 

Theoretically, the file could just be opened in the FM23 editor and the relevant changes made before verification. It will be a LOT less work for @fifteenminutesshould he choose to do this again for FM23. 

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32 minutes ago, fifteenminutes said:

Due to issues with the Advanced Editor, I have went back to basic rules to see how it works...I have also had to remove a name fix which now gives the conferences the correct names. 

Screenshot 2022-03-12 155200.png

Might be easier to do everything in basic rules first and then convert it if you need to. 

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26 minutes ago, fifteenminutes said:

I think I've got the NCAA I  working no problem...fingers crossed. Thanks dude!

You do realise though, with a file this detailed, there will be requests for it EVERY year going forward now. I will be totally honest, I've been looking for a decent file ever since Uncle Sam stopped doing his. I'm looking forward to this one. 

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7 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said:

You do realise though, with a file this detailed, there will be requests for it EVERY year going forward now. I will be totally honest, I've been looking for a decent file ever since Uncle Sam stopped doing his. I'm looking forward to this one. 

I do realise that, yeah :lol: 

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2 hours ago, fifteenminutes said:

I think I've got the NCAA I  working no problem...fingers crossed. Thanks dude!

How many teams altogether? I got 357 in my Div I alone.  the total must be nuts.   

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1 hour ago, EnigMattic1 said:

You do realise though, with a file this detailed, there will be requests for it EVERY year going forward now. I will be totally honest, I've been looking for a decent file ever since Uncle Sam stopped doing his. I'm looking forward to this one. 

uncle sam was the GOAT lol

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2 hours ago, wkdsoul said:

How many teams altogether? I got 357 in my Div I alone.  the total must be nuts.   

205 in div I (give or take, as some teams have moved divisions), 206 in div II (same as Div I give or take) & 438 in div III which is going to be a killer.

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1 minute ago, fifteenminutes said:

205 in div I (give or take, as some teams have moved divisions), 206 in div II (same as Div I give or take) & 438 in div III which is going to be a killer.

Damn! That's just shy of 850 teams!! 

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So, it turns out I'm not well. Thankfully, it's not covid, But I am going on holiday on friday till sunday the 27th. I don't want to be ill for my holiday, which means it's very unlikely i'll be on the editor during the next few days and while I'm away. 

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I said in my last post I wasn't going to do much due to being sick, well, I lied. I've made alot of changes today: 

 

I have started making sure all clubs have the correct stadiums, colours and information. US Soccer is so badly represented in football manager (as a whole) that it makes databases like this take much longer. I'm also having issues with certain cup competitions not showing up in games which I'll hopefully be able to rectify before I shut the editor tomorrow night before my holiday! It's coming along great, other than that. 

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I am now back from my holiday! I am currently working on creating all clubs, including NCAA II & III, as well as High School teams. In the first post of this thread, I will update it frequently with added leagues / competitions. 

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48 minutes ago, fifteenminutes said:

It irks me when people say that the USA should have a promotion-relegation system. If you look at how many leagues there actually are in America, you'll see it would be a complete nightmare. 

And when you take into account NCAA, it just isn't practical. You can almost guarantee that those who say it should have pro/rel just look at it as MLS/USLC/USL1 and not how many "regional" divisions a league is split into. 

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I’m really excited for this.  You’re doing a lot more than I would ever do.  I actually was debating on creating my own USA database for FM23, but I backed out due to how time consuming it would be.
 

I do have a question, though.  How are you determining what high school teams to add?  Obviously, there’s so many schools that you can’t put them all in.  Are you just putting like the top schools from each state or are you making it a mix of small schools and large schools?

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9 hours ago, owncredible said:

I’m really excited for this.  You’re doing a lot more than I would ever do.  I actually was debating on creating my own USA database for FM23, but I backed out due to how time consuming it would be.
 

I do have a question, though.  How are you determining what high school teams to add?  Obviously, there’s so many schools that you can’t put them all in.  Are you just putting like the top schools from each state or are you making it a mix of small schools and large schools?

I am still weighing up how I'm going to add in HS teams. :) 

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Level 9 downwards are all amateur leagues (NCAA & youth). I was going to add them as 'reserve competitions' but then thought it would be better to put in age restrictions for each league, so only youth players will be eligible and you can coach any team you like. 

Age restrictions for each league (as of 03/29/2022) is as follows: 

Level 9 (max 23 min 17)

Level 10 (max 23 min 17)

Level 11 (max 23 min 17)

Level 12 (max 20 min 15)

Level 13 (max 19 min 15)

Level 14 (max 18 min 15)

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I have now updated the original post to contain some HS leagues/conferences. California's Sac Joaquin Section includes conferences from seven different divisions, which is why there are so many. Schools are assigned to conferences/leagues according to NCS alignment, but in football manager terms, it doesn't really matter. All conferences will get a chance for state & national championships, regardless of their NCS alignment in real life. 

 

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The structure of the HS system may change and each state league structure may become it's own level within the pyramid. I'm still trying to figure out the best course of action to take. 

 

I have had too many issues with the pyramid as it is, so when I get home I'm going to start from scratch and create all competition rules etc as I go along. Hopefully this refrains from too many more errors. It's not a big loss because I'd only set up MLS & USLC anyways. 

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