thebugel Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Youth development A lately i have been looking at ways to develop my youth players so I took it upon myself to find a way of generating the best possible training package for my up and coming stars. I developed a method and noticed something good was happening. I didnt post the method as i had no concrete evidence so yesterday on my day off i decided to test it. Heres what i did.... I took over the manager of a random Prem club, in this case it was Bolton Wanderers and bought eight 16-year olds from Britain and abroad. I noted down each players total attributes (all visible stats added up) and also their key attributes, i.e defenders key attributes are tackling, positioning and heading. I placed all eight players in the reserves and saved the game. ----------------------------Method one------------------------------- The first part of the test was to assign the younsters to their positional training, i.e i put my defenders on defending and my AMC + SC's on attacking. I then went on holiday from 18th of July 08 and returned to the game on June 10th 09. I re- checked the stats and noted down the improvements in each players field and also their total attributes. ----------------------------Method two------------------------------- I reloaded the game so that my team was back at 18th July 08. Then, Instead of assigning each player to training to suit thier position i changed the technical training to this.. Fitness - Intensive Tactics - Intensive Attacking - Intensive Goalkeeping - None Defensive - Intensive Motivational - Intensive Following this, i assigned my eight players all to Technical training and Once again went on holiday until June 10th 09. Here are the results i got... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (DC) Dennis Appiah Attributes Pre Test - 197 (this number is all 17 attrubutes added together, the total is out of a possible 340) Result of Pre set Defending training- 222 Result of My Intense Technical Training - 242 Difference + 20 Key attrubtes (starting attributes - Method 1 result - method 2 result) Tackling - 13 - 18 -17 Heading - 14 - 16- 16 Positioning - 10 -14 -14 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (DC) Alessio Campoli Attributes Pre Test - 175 Pre set Defending training - 199 My Intense Technical Training - 216 Difference + 17 Key attrubtes Tackling - 9 - 12 -12 Heading - 14 - 16 - 16 Positioning - 12 - 17 - 17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMC Sean Geddes Attributes Pre Test - 162 Pre set Attacking training - 184 My Intense Technical Training - 202 Difference + 18 Key attrubtes Passing - 11 - 15 - 15 Shooting - 10 - 14 -14 Creativity - 11 - 13 - 13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMC Eyal Golasa Attributes Pre Test - 182 Pre set Attacking training - 202 My Intense Technical Training - 207 Difference + 5 Key Attributes Passing - 14 - 18 - 17 Shooting - 11 - 15 - 13 Creativity - 17 - 18 - 18 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMC Jonjo Shelvy (183-212-218) att Attributes Pre Test - 183 Pre set Attacking training - 212 My Intense Technical Training - 218 Difference + 6 Key Attributes Passing - 14 - 17 -17 Shooting - 10 -13 - 13 Creativity - 10 - 11 - 11 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- AM/SC Shaun Jeffers Attributes Pre Test - 160 Pre set Attacking training - 187 My Intense Technical Training - 197 Difference + 10 Key Attributes Shooting - 9 -12 -13 Heading - 5 - 5 -7 Pace - 10 - 15 - 16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SC Balint Bajner Attributes Pre Test - 169 Pre set Attacking training - 196 My Intense Technical Training - 207 Difference + 11 Key Attributes Shooting - 11 -19 - 19 Heading - 10 - 10 -12 Pace - 10 - 10 -12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SC James Specer Attributes Pre Test - 149 Pre set Attacking training - 171 My Intense Technical Training - 191 Difference + 20 Key Attributes Shooting - 8 -14 -14 Heading - 9 - 9 -11 Pace - 10 - 10 - 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONCLUSION: Using the intense technical method improves the players all round attributes rather than focusing on one. The defenders key attributes are better using method one but the attacking players key attribute lie with using method two. Method two should only be carried out on younsters who are currnetly not getting games, it is designed to soley improve a younsters all round perforamnce. If you keep these younsters in the reserves a few seasons by 19/20 they will be modified and ready to prove a big physical presence in whatever team you are. You could try it with any 16yr old and let me know how he improves by the age of 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 So, every youth player improved through intense training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebugel Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 So, every youth player improved through intense training? Yes all eight of them. its important they dont play games though, otherwise they would will burn out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Good method, you should try it with a huge amount of players, like 50 or so, and then note down the results to see if the method is truly foolproof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebugel Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Good method, you should try it with a huge amount of players, like 50 or so, and then note down the results to see if the method is truly foolproof. I think il pass on that, it would be a lot of work, 8 players took long enough! My last sentance was an invitation for forumers try yourself, so if alot of people try it over a period of three or four seasons with just one player, bought as a 15/16 yr old we may see a big improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
O\'Hara_fan Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Intresting experiment mate. Its a note to see that it seems to be best for the defenders to be put on defensive training, but strikers improve more with intensive training. Good work and hope it helps in future experiments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridley99 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 ive always played a few youngsters when ive played lower league teams in cups or when ive won the league with games to spare and ive found this helps them improve dont know by how much though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I think il pass on that, it would be a lot of work, 8 players took long enough!My last sentance was an invitation for forumers try yourself, so if alot of people try it over a period of three or four seasons with just one player, bought as a 15/16 yr old we may see a big improvement. I think I will use this when I am Leeds (and the great youth Academy) and this might help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
20daisy20 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 But how do you set the technical training to just on player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Go to training, then whilst over their name press SQUARE IIRC, then it will change the training schedule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
20daisy20 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yeah mate but i mean how do i give just one of my players; Fitness - Intensive Tactics - Intensive Attacking - Intensive Goalkeeping - None Defensive - Intensive Motivational - Intensive I can only find how to change it for the whole team! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebugel Posted November 29, 2008 Author Share Posted November 29, 2008 Yeah mate but i mean how do i give just one of my players;Fitness - Intensive Tactics - Intensive Attacking - Intensive Goalkeeping - None Defensive - Intensive Motivational - Intensive I can only find how to change it for the whole team! When on training menu select technical (option on left hand side) and you can edit the schedual Change technical training to Fitness - Intensive Tactics - Intensive Attacking - Intensive Goalkeeping - None Defensive - Intensive Motivational - Intensive Then assign the desired youth to technical training rather than general or attacking etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Oh, right well go to the side menu and click on 'Technical' or whichever one you want. You'll see it come up then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
20daisy20 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Thank you for the quick response mate. Brilliant work again from you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergkamp.10. Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 great work mate thats one of the things i focus most on in the game, bringing up youths. i like to see new ideas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawking2008 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Awesome research bugel. But, I have one question though.. These players are young & some of them are bound to be unhappy. What do you do then? Just leave it as it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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