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[FM22] Aye, we be playing fitba. A Scottish Youth Only Challenge

Makoto Nakamura

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This map is a list of every club playing in the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th tier of Scottish Football.

This is my attempt at a more in-depth save. Scottish Youth Only where I holiday a season and then I'm going to take control of the team that finishes bottom of the McBookie North Second Division, the lowest reputation league that's playable in Scotland and one of the three league in the Scottish 8th tier.

I've asked Mozza whether the database is worth playing now or to wait for the league restructure to be sorted and he says to go for a long term save now, so here we are! For those of you that don't know the Scottish football setup it looks like this:


In real life at the end of the season the West of Scotland will go from three to five divisions which is why Division Four is the 8th tier, from next season I believe it should be the 10th tier but this can't easily be replicated in the FM Editor so the conferences will remain.

This will be my first proper attempt at a Scottish save since taking Shetland to European competition back on FM17 and I could've taken on this challenge with a similar team as Orkney play in the North Caledonian League but, as you can see, we'll be starting a little bit lower than that. I could also take control of the club that finishes bottom in either the East of Scotland Football League Conference X or the West of Scotland Football League Division Four but these leagues have a higher reputation and most of the clubs in these two leagues have between double and triple the reputation of the clubs in the North Second Division.

Leagues Loaded:

I have a large database with all players in Scotland loaded.

I have all leagues in the UK & Ireland loaded so England to tier 6, Northern Ireland to tier 3, Republic of Ireland to tier 2, Scotland to tier 8 and Wales to tier 2.

The League & Clubs:


This is the league I'm going for and also why I want to go for Whitehills or New Elgin since they're somewhat adrift at the bottom of the table, and the fact that New Elgin are called New Elgin despite being founded in 1896 (Three years after original Elgin).





Burghead Thistle Football Club are a Scottish football team, based in Burghead, Moray. Members of the Scottish Junior Football Association, they currently play in the North Second Division of the SJFA North Region.

The club were formed in 1889. In early 1906 they became founder members of the Elginshire Junior League, later known as the Morayshire Junior League from 1906–07 season. They became the first club outside Elgin to become League Champions in 1908–09 season, they took the title again the following season 1909–10.

Home matches are played at Forest Park just outside Burghead. The team play in green shirts and shorts. The club are managed by David McDonald.

Burghead Thistle bought the ground off the Forestry Commission a couple of years ago after leasing it for many years. They now have floodlights/training lights and the wooden enclosure is a bit less ramshackle (still no seats, although there are a few community hall style stacking plastic chairs kicking around!). There is a new metal boundary wall and the pitch now has a surrounding wooden fence complete with advertising boards. There is no social club, but pies and bovril etc are sold from the pavilion at half time.

North Regional (North) League winners: 1972-73, 1973-74, 1976-77
Morayshire Junior League winners: 1931-32
North Region Second Division Elginshire League Cup: 2007-08
North Region Second Division (Gordon Williamson) Trophy: 1968-69, 1970-71, 1971-72, 1973-74, 1974-75
Matthew Cup: 1958-59, 1971-72, 1972-73, 1974-75
Morayshire Junior Cup: 1931-32, 1952-53, 1961-62, 1969-70, 1974-75, 1975-76
Nicholson Cup: 1948-49, 1952-53, 1957-58, 1974-75, 1995-96, 1998-99, 1999-00, 2000-01
Robbie Nicol Cup: 1975-76
Robertson Cup: 1973-74, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1977-78
Stewart Memorial Cup: 1969-70, 1973-74, 1974-75, 1975-76, 1976-77, 1979-80
Connon Cup: 1931-32, 1955-56, 1958-59, 1960-61, 1961-62, 1964-65, 1978-79, 1995-96, 1996-97
North of Scotland (Morayshire) Cup: 1962-63, 1983-84
White Horse Cup: 1931-32, 1957-58, 1973-74




Cruden Bay Junior Football Club are a Scottish football club from the village of Cruden Bay, Aberdeenshire. Members of the Scottish Junior Football Association, they currently play in the North Second Division. Founded in 1934 as an Amateur side, they stepped up to the Junior grade in 1995. The club are based at Watson Park, formerly known as Bayfield Park, and the club’s colour is purple.

Covered accommodation was added to Watson Park over the 2000 summer break, while apart from a clubhouse there is little else of note. The playing surface reported to be one of the best in the Juniors. The ground was formerly known as Bayfield.


North East Division One winners: 1997–98, 1999–00

North Region Division One (West) winners: 2013–14

Duthie (Acorn Heating) Cup: 1999–00

Morrison Trophy: 1997–98, 1999–00




Forres Thistle Football Club are a football club from Forres, Scotland. A member of the Scottish Junior Football Association, the club play in the North Region in the North First Division. Founded in 1906, the club are based at Logie Park and team colours are red and white.

The team are managed since the beginning of the 2016–17 season by Fraser Bremner.

Logie Park is, like most North Juniors grounds, basic with the pitch fenced off. There is a changing room building behind one of the goals.


North Region First Division (West) winners: 2002–03

North Regional (North) League winners: 1971–72, 1979–80

Morayshire Junior League winners: 1926–27, 1929–30

Gordon Williamson Trophy: 1966–67, 1967–68, 2002–03, 2004–05

Morayshire Junior Cup: 1925–26, 1930–31, 1953–54, 1970–71, 1973–74, 1977–78, 1991–92, 1999–00

Nicholson Cup: 1926–27, 1972–73

North Drybrough Cup: 1972–73

North of Scotland (Morayshire) Cup: 1952–53, 1957–58, 1958–59, 1968–69, 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76, 1978–79, 1984–85, 1985–86

Robbie Nicol Cup: 1992–93, 2000–01

Robertson Cup: 1930–31, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1967–68, 1968–69, 1970–71, 1971–72, 1988–89

Stewart Memorial Cup: 1971–72, 1999–00

Connon Cup: 1952–53, 1953–54, 1957–58, 1979–80, 1984–85, 1999–00

White Horse Cup: 1929–30, 1935–36, 1936–37, 1952–53, 1968–69, 1970–71, 1976–77

Elginshire Cup: 2013–14, 2015–16

Archibald Cup: 2015–16




Glentanar Junior Football Club are a Scottish football club based in Woodside, an area of the city of Aberdeen. Members of the Scottish Junior Football Association since 1998, they currently play in the North Second Division. The club are based at Woodside Sports Complex and their colours are yellow and blue. One of the founding members Alexsander frank Jackson (Jay) is still with the club today as acting president.

The team are managed since March 2015 by Graham McBeath.






Islavale Football Club are a Scottish football club based in the town of Keith, Moray. Founded in 1949 as a Welfare side, they joined the Scottish Junior Football Association in 1952 and currently play in the North Second Division. The club were based at Fife Park in the Fife Keith area of the town before moving to Simpson Park in 1998. The Vale are near neighbours of local Highland League side Keith, whose Kynoch Park ground they used to occasionally share. Team colours are red and black.

Islavale played at Fife Park in the town of Fife Keith until around 1999, but have since moved onto a new park in Keith. Historically, people who lived on the Fife Keith side of the River Isla were Islavale supporters, while those on the Keith side followed Keith in the Highland League.

Notable former players:

Colin Hendry – Former Scotland captain. Joined Dundee from Islavale in 1983.


North Region (North) League winners: 1970–71, 1996–97, 1997–98, 1998–99

Morayshire Junior League winners: 1961–62

North Region Division Two winners: 2003–04

North (Rollstud) Regional Cup: 2002–03, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2015–16

Morrison Trophy: 2007–08

Gordon Williamson Trophy: 1965–66, 1989–90, 1990–91, 1992–93, 1998–99

Morayshire Junior Cup: 1960–61, 1964–65, 1971–72, 1980–81, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2000–01

Matthew Cup: 1961–62, 1965–66, 1986–87, 1991–92

Nicholson Cup: 1970–71

Robertson Cup: 1966–67, 1989–90, 1992–93, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–00

Clive Williamson Trophy: 1998–99, 1999–00

Stewart Memorial Cup: 1961–62, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1996–97, 2000–01

Connon Cup: 1954–55, 1956–57, 1967–68, 1998–99

North of Scotland (Morayshire) Cup: 1966–67, 1970–71, 1971–72, 1976–77, 1986–87

White Horse Cup: 1965–66

Elginshire Cup: 2016–17




New Elgin Football Club are a Scottish football club from the town of Elgin, Moray. Members of the Scottish Junior Football Association, they currently play in the North Second Division.

New Elgin Juniors originated in 1896 in The Elgin & District Junior League, the club`s original home ground was at Dovecot Park just off North Street in New Elgin. The clubs first strip was Red and White hooped shirts, White shorts, Red and White hooped socks. The club won their first Morayshire Junior League title in 1948 with star players such as Harry Smith, Jim Clark, Johnny Leithead, Donald Cargill, Willie Jamieson, Willie Mackenzie, George Webster, Billy Smith, Hughie Keil, Peter Mather, John McDonald and Jock Mackenzie.

The pitch at the "Doocot Park" was however was noted for being rather heavy going due to drainage problems. In 1964 the club secured part of the playing fields formerly used by the MoD at Pinefield camp on the eastern side of Elgin. It was in early 1967 that the club flitted to their new pitch, with a former MoD building becoming the dressing-rooms, still in use today. In the club's 22 year membership of the Morayshire Junior League, New Elgin were champions on 10 occasions. The club also reached 68 cup finals run by the Morayshire Junior F.A. in this time, winning 35 of them. The club made their best run the Scottish Junior Cup, during the 1967/68 season, when they reached the fourth round.

In late 1968, the club almost folded, after having to scratch from the Scottish Junior Cup, being unable to fulfill a tie with Aberdeen side Rosemount. However a new committee was elected in February 1969 and the club continued. The club enjoyed a revival in the late-1970s and early-1980s under the charge of former player, Robbie Nicol, who gave a number of promising local youngsters a chance. As well as being Manager, Robbie had also been Treasurer then Secretary before taking over from Frank Marchi as President in 1980. This position he held till his untimely death in December 1997.

Elgin were joined in 2009 by local rivals Bishopmill United. In line with SJFA regulations, both club's adjacent pitches are enclosed by fencing and New Elgin have customised their facility by renaming it Nicol-Togneri Park in honour of long serving officials Jake Togneri and the late Robbie Nicol. Club colours are red and black.

The team are managed since June 2017 by John Ross.

Fellow North Region Juniors' side Fochabers play on the adjacent pitch at Pinefield.

League career:

Morayshire Junior League: 1946–1968

North Region, (North Section): 1968–2001

North Region, Division One (West): 2001–2003

North Region, Division Two: 2003–2009

North Region, Division One: 2009–2013

North Region, Superleague: 2013–2015

North Region, West Division: 2015–2016


North Region, Division One Champions: 2012–13

North Region, Division Two Champions: 2004–05, 2005–06

Morayshire Junior League Champions: 1947–48, 1950–51, 1951–52, 1953–54, 1954–55, 1956–57, 1957–58, 1959–60, 1963–64, 1966–67

Morrison Trophy Winners; 2011–12

Gordon Williamson Cup Winners; 1956–57, 1957–58, 1959–60, 1962–63, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1994–95, 2004-05, 2005–06

Morayshire Junior Cup Winners; 1950–51, 1955–56, 1959–60, 1976–77

Matthew Cup Winners; 1953–54, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1970–71, 1978–79, 1981–82, 1994–95, 1999–00

Nicholson Cup Winners; 1951–52, 1959–60, 1967–68, 1996–97

Tom Gordon Trophy Winners; 1996–97

Robertson Cup Winners; 1947–48, 1950–51, 1953–54, 1956–57, 1958–59, 1961–62, 1964–65, 1979–80

Stewart Memorial Trophy Winners; 1956–57, 1962–63, 1963–64, 1966–67, 1998–99

North of Scotland Cup Winners; 1953–54, 1959–60, 1964–65, 1965–66, 1974–75

Connon Cup Winners; 1948–49, 1976–77, 1991–92

White Horse Cup Winners; 1950–51, 1958–59, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1962–63, 1971–72, 1972–73, 1996–97, 1998–99

Cutler Cup Winners; 1947–48




Newmachar United Junior Football Club are a Scottish football club from the village of Newmachar, Aberdeenshire. They became members of the Scottish Junior Football Association in 2010, finishing as runners-up in their maiden season in North Second Division. The club formed in 1987 as an Amateur team and still retain a side in the Aberdeenshire Amateur Football Association. Based at Charles Gordon Park, the club colours are red and black.


Unknown or none.





Joined the North Region Juniors in 2020. So not really any history here but they are currently top of the league.





Whitehills Football Club are a Scottish football club from the village of Whitehills, near Banff, Aberdeenshire. Members of the Scottish Junior Football Association North Region, they currently play in the North Second Division Founded in 1999 playing in local Welfare competitions, the club stepped up to the Junior grade the following season but have yet to win any honours at this level. Their home ground is School Park in Eastside of Whitehills and club colours are red.

School park is a just a playing field with a pavilion.

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Thorniewood are in the division above us so this will be a tough game even with the home advantage, I don't see why we're being seen as the bigger club though.


Our most winnable cup tie, away to Newmachar who are in our league.


And the toughest cup draw we have, away to Nairn St. Ninian who play in the North Superleague, two divisions above us.

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2022/23 Pre-Season


I'll use cup games as full month updates instead of with the pre-season update and what a dreadful pre-season it was...in some respects. We lost to our second xi which is a big surprise when we only have a first vi. Golspie & Halkirk are both in the North Caledonian League so are two divisions above us, and Golspie are favourites for the title so the fact we scored three against both of them is promising.


And we're predicted dead last, Stonehaven should walk this league apparently.

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August 2022




An exciting month but definitely not what I was wanting Elliot Murdoch managing to break records by scoring five goals in a match and we manage to end up being on the losing side, Kieran Angus the grey goalkeeper scoring his second penalty already but I won't start keeping track of them until we have an actual goalkeeper come through the youth system.





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January 2023



Mixed start to 2023 with a win, a draw and two losses which sees us move back down to eighth with Glentanar hiring a new manager in Callum Wardrope who's managed 2-1-3 in his first six games so I'm hoping he doesn't lead them to do any better. On the flipside I should be looking at the fact that we're six points ahead of Glentanar in 9th and also six points behind Whitehills up in 3rd.






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2022/23 End of Season Review




In the final two games of the season nine of this seasons intake made their debuts, largely due to the fact we only had six players before that but that is beside the point. :lol:




Well last season New Elgin managed thirteen points, we more than doubled that this season so that has to go down as a success!


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No best eleven yet, I'm guessing due to the lack of players, hopefully that's rectified next season.



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2022/23 Scotland Update



Both Kelty Hearts & Brechin City have managed back-to-back promotions whilst Burntisland Shipyard came very close losing out in the tier six promotion playoff.

Fraserburgh must hate Brora this season. :lol:


And Broughty absolutely run away with the Scottish Midlands League.

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2023/24 Pre-Season


Started terribly but thankfully we found some form. Culter, Sunnybank & Dyce are two divisions above us whilst Maud are just the one division above us.



We're predicted even further off the pace now that we have players.


Again, we can't progress and I don't think we'll ever be able to progress in this.


Kilbirnie are the league above us and it's away from home so a bit of an ask.


We could beat Whitehills though!


We also got our first interview, I won't be going to any though.


Two new managers in the league, both in their first managerial jobs after hanging up their boots for Wick Academy, good to see that they both stayed up north.


And the dream eleven, the goal is to develop players that will feature here.












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August 2023



A tough start with lots of away matches but we're actually through in the Inter-Regional Cup!




I think just two players are still yet to make their debut.



Montrose Roselea are a 6th tier side, the only thing we have is home advantage.


1,567 deals done. :lol:

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October 2023



Elliot Murdoch is trying to win us the points on his own, and that worked against Longside, the newly relegated side are struggling to find their feet in the basement division.



Scone Thistle, another Midlands League side who in real life lost 9-2 against East Craigie today.


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December 2022



A pretty solid month and the league is still really close with us being just six points off of leaders Whitehills, who we've just beat.




Our first sacking of the season and it's deserved, relegated Longside sit bottom of the table and Richard is replaced by another first time manager, Grant Lawson. This is also Longside's fourth manager since the start of the save.



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