Board making transfer offer for a player I dont want

[Supernova1903]

So keeping things short and simple. The president at the club I am managing had just been reselected, the first thing he sends me is the following mail: In line with my campaign promise, a bid has been submitted for Yusuf Yazici(a player). The bid was 17,25million euros. Way too much money for a player like this. I havnent previously tried buying this player, I have not announced interest or anything like this previously in the save. I cant find a way to cancel their offer. 

I would really appreciate the help.

 

EDIT: 

After progressing a week or so into the game, I got the option to accept, delay or cancel the offer. Thank God 

Edited November 21, 2021 by Supernova1903

[XaW]

It's not possible, it's how it is some times when you get a new president at a club.

[Supernova1903]

1 minute ago, XaW said:

It's not possible, it's how it is some times when you get a new president at a club.

Seriously no way to make them cancel the transfer bid? can I have a meeting or something with them and make them cancel the offer? Lets say he accept their contract offer, do I have the opportunity to reject it?

If this isnt the case, thats messed up, I really dont want him...

[XaW]

Just now, Supernova1903 said:

Seriously no way to make them cancel the transfer bid? can I have a meeting or something with them and make them cancel the offer? Lets say he accept their contract offer, do I have the opportunity to reject it?

If this isnt the case, thats messed up, I really dont want him...

No, the new president made that promise to the fans to get elected, and he will try to follow through. This happens in real life, and also in the game.

[Supernova1903]

1 minute ago, XaW said:

No, the new president made that promise to the fans to get elected, and he will try to follow through. This happens in real life, and also in the game.

Ahh.......

Thanks for the reply at least.

[XaW]

1 minute ago, Supernova1903 said:

Ahh.......

Thanks for the reply at least.

Yeah, it's annoying, in the same way I expect managers in real life to feel about it. Part and parcel of a crazy boss!

[Dagenham_Dave]

Leeds paid £13million for him at the start of the 22/23 season in my current save, looks like he'd be a standout player in the Turkish League. 

[Supernova1903]

2 hours ago, Dagenham_Dave said:

Leeds paid £13million for him at the start of the 22/23 season in my current save, looks like he'd be a standout player in the Turkish League. 

I dont necessarily think he is a bad player by any means, its just that I have a wonderkid (Burak Ince) who is performing very well and he plays the exact same position as Yusuf Yazici.

I fast forwared a bit since I posted the question, the board have made the most idiotic bid 

[FrazT]

You just have to live with this as it was a campaign promise and will need to be followed through.

[Supernova1903]

5 hours ago, FrazT said:

You just have to live with this as it was a campaign promise and will need to be followed through.

I did managed to reject the transfer from going through. A week or so after the initial mail i received regarding the bid being made. I got a message that gave me the options to accept, delay or cancel. I chose cancel, seems like I was able to stop the transfer happening. Unless they try again and I wont get the transfer confirmation mail...

Btw. I did edit the first post.

But like, I dont get it why in the world they would promise to bring in a player I had no intent bringing in. I also had no need for a player in his position. Just seems so stupid.

[FrazT]

39 minutes ago, Supernova1903 said:

I did managed to reject the transfer from going through. A week or so after the initial mail i received regarding the bid being made. I got a message that gave me the options to accept, delay or cancel. I chose cancel, seems like I was able to stop the transfer happening. Unless they try again and I wont get the transfer confirmation mail...

Btw. I did edit the first post.

But like, I dont get it why in the world they would promise to bring in a player I had no intent bringing in. I also had no need for a player in his position. Just seems so stupid.

What you as manager wants is not fully relevant when a presidential candidate is making pre-vote promises.  Just think how modern day politics and election promises are handled.

[phnompenhandy]

If you do find a solution, let Pochettino know. It's driving him to quit PSG.

[MakeFMGreatAgain]

Untick “signs new players” in the clubs board/election promises in the pre game Editor prior to starting saves of the big 4/5 clubs in the Turkish Superlig. Too late for your save now though, just expect your board to sign big name players of their choice after every election. 

[pdmalcolm]

This cost me my job in FM20 when my Everton team got lumbered with 2 100m EUR players I had no need or want for after a takeover... Killing the transfer budget for the next season, blowing the wage structure apart and giving me a nightmare to keep everybody happy. 

 

Stuff happens, all part of the rich tapestry of FM. 

[frokost]

On 22/11/2021 at 04:51, FrazT said:

What you as manager wants is not fully relevant when a presidential candidate is making pre-vote promises.  Just think how modern day politics and election promises are handled.

 

On 21/11/2021 at 16:54, XaW said:

No, the new president made that promise to the fans to get elected, and he will try to follow through. This happens in real life, and also in the game.

In real life, you as manager would probably be able to have a chat with said presidential candidate before he even made that promise, and tell him that if he wanted to bring in a high profile signing, maybe he should aim for someone else? You would also, in real life, be able to tell the board that your own transfers have contributed millions to the coffers and lifted the team through two consecutive promotions, and that they should let you handle it. You could even go to the media and say that he shouldn't get elected if he makes stupid promises.

A lot of stuff happens in real life that can be simulated in game, but that doesn't mean it has to, or should. Stuff like this actually detracts from realism rather than add to it, because the context in which it happens is absurd.

[XaW]

33 minutes ago, frokost said:

In real life, you as manager would probably be able to have a chat with said presidential candidate before he even made that promise, and tell him that if he wanted to bring in a high profile signing, maybe he should aim for someone else? You would also, in real life, be able to tell the board that your own transfers have contributed millions to the coffers and lifted the team through two consecutive promotions, and that they should let you handle it. You could even go to the media and say that he shouldn't get elected if he makes stupid promises.

A lot of stuff happens in real life that can be simulated in game, but that doesn't mean it has to, or should. Stuff like this actually detracts from realism rather than add to it, because the context in which it happens is absurd.

Well, the game is trying to mirror it as good as possible. If you have some suggestions as to how it can be improved and make it more realistic, feel free to drop a suggestion in the correct subforum.

[frokost]

54 minutes ago, XaW said:

Well, the game is trying to mirror it as good as possible. If you have some suggestions as to how it can be improved and make it more realistic, feel free to drop a suggestion in the correct subforum.

Sorry, I didn't realise the "general discussion" subforum was the wrong place to discuss general aspects of the game. I'm assuming this tread will be shut down then, as two separate mods have already made a "verdict" on the topic? 

[FrazT]

6 minutes ago, frokost said:

Sorry, I didn't realise the "general discussion" subforum was the wrong place to discuss general aspects of the game. I'm assuming this tread will be shut down then, as two separate mods have already made a "verdict" on the topic? 

Only the coders will be able to post a full explanation about the workings of this module but neither of the Mods who have posted have made any verdict at all- all we do is post with what knowledge we have from playing the game for a very long time and interpreting how the game code might work.

[XaW]

1 hour ago, frokost said:

Sorry, I didn't realise the "general discussion" subforum was the wrong place to discuss general aspects of the game. I'm assuming this tread will be shut down then, as two separate mods have already made a "verdict" on the topic? 

No need to shut anything down, and I don't think anyone has done so. If you think something is wrong then the only place the devs will find it is the bug section. And the same goes for suggestions, it will be reviewed in the proper place.

Neither of us have made verdicts, but we have given our best guess/explanation as to how the game functions. We do this by experience and knowledge of the game as a way of helping others to understand how the game works (regardless of if it's a bug or not). If you think it's wrong, then you can think so. But if you want it to change then either report a bug or a feature request. A random comment in GD is not likely to be picked up by the devs to be changed.

[pdmalcolm]

4 hours ago, frokost said:

 

In real life, you as manager would probably be able to have a chat with said presidential candidate before he even made that promise, and tell him that if he wanted to bring in a high profile signing, maybe he should aim for someone else? You would also, in real life, be able to tell the board that your own transfers have contributed millions to the coffers and lifted the team through two consecutive promotions, and that they should let you handle it. You could even go to the media and say that he shouldn't get elected if he makes stupid promises.

A lot of stuff happens in real life that can be simulated in game, but that doesn't mean it has to, or should. Stuff like this actually detracts from realism rather than add to it, because the context in which it happens is absurd.

In real life, if you as an employee were discussing the best way to buy out the business with a third party you'd expect to be fired. It's a computer game and stuff like this adds to the challenge. In my first season I had a player on loan with an obligation to buy who was 1. Useless and 2. taking up 25% of the next seasons wage bill... you just get on with it. 

Edited November 23, 2021 by pdmalcolm

[frokost]

2 hours ago, XaW said:

No need to shut anything down, and I don't think anyone has done so. If you think something is wrong then the only place the devs will find it is the bug section. And the same goes for suggestions, it will be reviewed in the proper place.

Neither of us have made verdicts, but we have given our best guess/explanation as to how the game functions. We do this by experience and knowledge of the game as a way of helping others to understand how the game works (regardless of if it's a bug or not). If you think it's wrong, then you can think so. But if you want it to change then either report a bug or a feature request. A random comment in GD is not likely to be picked up by the devs to be changed.

In FM, as in all games, there will be aspects of it that players disagree on without anyone needing to assume that it is a bug, or not working as intended. I would assume a forum for general discussions would be a proper place to discuss such things. It's perfectly possible for me to not like a certain aspect of a game without thinking it's a bug or thinking I have a solution to it. Indicating that people should file bug reports or feature requests for everything about the game they have an opinion about shuts down healthy discussion and clogs the dev feedback threads. Furthermore, feature requests are, by their nature, a poor way to handle changes to what the game "is" and feels like, because they are the opinion of one person rather than a discussion with multiple viewpoints and arguments lifted. Sure, you could just count the number of requests or "likes" and give in to popular demand, but I doubt the game would be better for it (not suggesting you are promoting that, just saying).

4 hours ago, FrazT said:

Only the coders will be able to post a full explanation about the workings of this module but neither of the Mods who have posted have made any verdict at all- all we do is post with what knowledge we have from playing the game for a very long time and interpreting how the game code might work.

When someone asks a question, it's great to get an answer from experienced players with an authoritative badge to boot. If you want a discussion however, you're more looking for different viewpoints than an "answer". Do you find that this feature feels realistic? Do you find that it adds to the experience of playing the game? Why/why not?

[frokost]

1 hour ago, pdmalcolm said:

In real life, if you as an employee were discussing the best way to buy out the business with a third party you'd expect to be fired. It's a computer game and stuff like this adds to the challenge. In my first season I had a player on loan with an obligation to buy who was 1. Useless and 2. taking up 25% of the next seasons wage bill... you just get on with it. 

Yeah, unless the candidate was already part of the board, and those discussions happened in a professional context, you're probably right.

I'm generally fine with stuff that adds to the challenge as the game is not particularly hard in of itself, but I find that irrational board behaviour is more tedious than it is challenging. Sure, if they insist on bringing in an overpaid benchwarmer, or sell my top prospect for scraps it throws a wrench in my plans, but it mostly just delays them, it doesn't alter them. The annoying part of it is that it feels like the controls of the game are just ripped from your hands for a moment, and there is absolutely no way to interact with the mechanic. It's a random mechanic without player autonomy. I like to feel like I'm losing because I made bad choices (like in regards to tactics, transfers, dynamics ect) not because I randomly drew the "go straight to jail"-card.

[BrightLad5]

4 hours ago, frokost said:

Sorry, I didn't realise the "general discussion" subforum was the wrong place to discuss general aspects of the game. I'm assuming this tread will be shut down then, as two separate mods have already made a "verdict" on the topic? 

He was just saying that if you have any suggestions to improve future FMs then you need to put them in the suggestions sub folder. Everything that gets posted there gets reviewed and could be added in to future games. Increased interaction between the manager and board could be decent

[XaW]

54 minutes ago, frokost said:

In FM, as in all games, there will be aspects of it that players disagree on without anyone needing to assume that it is a bug, or not working as intended. I would assume a forum for general discussions would be a proper place to discuss such things. It's perfectly possible for me to not like a certain aspect of a game without thinking it's a bug or thinking I have a solution to it. Indicating that people should file bug reports or feature requests for everything about the game they have an opinion about shuts down healthy discussion and clogs the dev feedback threads. Furthermore, feature requests are, by their nature, a poor way to handle changes to what the game "is" and feels like, because they are the opinion of one person rather than a discussion with multiple viewpoints and arguments lifted. Sure, you could just count the number of requests or "likes" and give in to popular demand, but I doubt the game would be better for it (not suggesting you are promoting that, just saying).

I possibly think you misunderstood my comment up there. The intention was not to shut down discussion, far from it, the post was pointing to the place where your opinion will be noticed by the devs.

We mods often do this, especially to newer members of the forum to let them know their views will be visible there. So feel free to express the opinion here (within the rules of the forum, of course), but if you want it to be heard by the people who can actually do something about it, you know where to go now. 

[frokost]

3 minutes ago, XaW said:

I possibly think you misunderstood my comment up there. The intention was not to shut down discussion, far from it, the post was pointing to the place where your opinion will be noticed by the devs.

We mods often do this, especially to newer members of the forum to let them know their views will be visible there. So feel free to express the opinion here (within the rules of the forum, of course), but if you want it to be heard by the people who can actually do something about it, you know where to go now. 

Fair enough, no harm no foul. I just felt like you where making an argument in defense of the current implementation, and met my counterargument by saying I should post somewhere else. I understand that that was not your intention however, so no worries. Let's get back on topic!

[KingCanary]

49 minutes ago, XaW said:

I possibly think you misunderstood my comment up there. The intention was not to shut down discussion, far from it, the post was pointing to the place where your opinion will be noticed by the devs.

We mods often do this, especially to newer members of the forum to let them know their views will be visible there. So feel free to express the opinion here (within the rules of the forum, of course), but if you want it to be heard by the people who can actually do something about it, you know where to go now. 

Without meaning to pile in, 'feel free to post it in the correct subforum' read quite passive aggressive to me as someone with no skin in the game. Intention or not, I doubt me or the OP were the only ones who read it that way.