Earnie is God! Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 16 hours ago, Jolyon Chen said: Question: how did you see your processor speed only hit 2133Mhz No, not CPU speed, RAM speed. Task manager shows it as 2133MHz 16 hours ago, Jolyon Chen said: As I think you've confused your RAM profile with your CPU speed here? Yes and no. For some reason I thought there should be some correlation between the two. It had been a long day yesterday So what you are saying is that I can't overclock my CPU, it's stuck at 3.20GHz right? OK, that's fine. 16 hours ago, Jolyon Chen said: 1. XMP doesn't care about overclocked or “non-overclockable” CPUs, that should just work. Is it possible to enable XMP on a Lenovo machine or no? It seems like "computer says no" Step 2: My settings weren't set on high performance but done that now. Will run through 'A' and 'B' again and see if it's any better. 16 hours ago, Jolyon Chen said: Can you download the program called hwinfo64 and run benchmark “A” again? Will do that now but not expecting miracles. Thanks for your reply 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 17 hours ago, Jolyon Chen said: Can you download the program called hwinfo64 and run benchmark “A” again? Take a screenshot when you're done of that program. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolyon Chen Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Earnie is God! said: So what you are saying is that I can't overclock my CPU, it's stuck at 3.20GHz right? Your CPU in HWinfo64 shows it slows itself down for a technical reason briefly (IA limit reason means very simplified: it defends its longevity by slowing down the core speed), that is normal behavior. It's a design choice. For the overwhelming majority of times, It's normally at 3,2, with that energy profile it now appears good. It's not stuck, as it boosted to 3,6 for one core and higher than 3,2 for multiple cores for a less than a few minutes. 10 hours ago, Earnie is God! said: Is it possible to enable XMP on a Lenovo machine or no? It seems like "computer says no" Powermonger's answer is correct. Your motherboard doesn't support XMP, due to costs, time, it's an old thing, made by lenovo for their own hardware only, etc. So no, your ram will stay stuck on your current speed. It's still the normal recommended speed for your cpu though, so it's not like you're losing performance. For the 1% extra performance in case a new bios profile unlocks XMP by installing a new bios, I wouldn't advise upgrading to new bios anyway. Because new motherboards have a reserve bios, so in case your power goes out or smth during your bios update, you can still start it up. With your rig, if something happens out of the blue, you're out of luck. If you don't care about losing and killing the rig, try to find a new bios by going to the Lenovo site, click on support top left and “detect product”. The bios download that may show in a long list has a manual explaining the process further. I btw can't find your model and bios file for you because the motherboard name is partly hidden in hwinfo, and I don't know all Lenovo home-made mobo's from the top of my head. And tbh, it's such an old model, not easily found anymore, if I give you the wrong bios file, I'd feel so sorry I'd send you a new pc. Edited September 29, 2022 by Jolyon Chen typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earnie is God! Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 So it's doing as well as can be expected and there's nothing I can really do to improve any of it further. Fair enough. Many thanks for taking the time to explain it all. Much appreciated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Type: Laptop Model: Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH6H CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H CPU Base Frequency: 3.20 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.40 GHz RAM: 32GB RAM Clockspeed: 3200 MT/s GPU: RTX 3070 Graphics Level in 3D: High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 59 Sec Benchmark B: 05 min 45 Sec Benchmark C: 10 min 35 Sec Benchmark D: xx min xx Sec 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil930 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 The Ryzen 9 7950X vs Intel i9-13900K. Wonder just how much of a lift in performance these will bring to FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Phil930 said: The Ryzen 9 7950X vs Intel i9-13900K. Wonder just how much of a lift in performance these will bring to FM. Well at the moment in the Desktop market Intel is absolutely smashing it as far as FM goes. That said the single core performance of these new Ryzens looks amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkvicd Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Type: Laptop Model: Legion 5 Pro 16IAH7H CPU Model: i5-12500h CPU Base Frequency: 2.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz RAM: 16GB RAM Clockspeed: 4800Mhz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Graphics Level in 3D: High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 49 Sec Benchmark B: 4 min 17 Sec Benchmark C: 8 min 55 Sec 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, xkvicd said: Type: Laptop Model: Legion 5 Pro 16IAH7H CPU Model: i5-12500h CPU Base Frequency: 2.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.50 GHz RAM: 16GB RAM Clockspeed: 4800Mhz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Graphics Level in 3D: High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 49 Sec Benchmark B: 4 min 17 Sec Benchmark C: 8 min 55 Sec Wow, those are nice numbers. While the turbo "clockspeeds" are similar it seems the 12th generation and the faster RAM does seem to make quite the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hancin Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Edited October 4, 2022 by hancin 7950x is actually ryzen 9, not 7. derp 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillYourIdols Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hancin said: Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 7 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Christ, save some P*ssy for the rest of us Edited October 4, 2022 by KillYourIdols 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothenburg83 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, hancin said: Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Wow! That's somewhat quick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hancin Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, gothenburg83 said: Wow! That's somewhat quick! At first I wasn't sure if this was gonna provide any useful data, looking at 6-7% CPU usage (so close to single-threaded). But match days with lots of things loaded turned out to be good for a chip with lots of cores. Wouldn't recommend this only for playing FM, but might actually stop playing FM on the laptop and more on the desktop after seeing these results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil930 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 hours ago, hancin said: Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Can't wait to see the new Intel core against this. Damn impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioo Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) I think 13900k will go below 2:30 in Benchmark B Edited October 5, 2022 by marioo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMikeConroy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Type: Laptop Model: MacBook Pro 13 inch, 2019, Two Thunderbolt 3 ports CPU Model: Quad-Core Intel Core I5 CPU Base Frequency: 1.4 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.90 GHz RAM: 8GB RAM Clockspeed: 2133 Mhz GPU: Intel Iris Plus Graphics 645 1536 mb Graphics Level in 3D: Low (recommended settings) Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 2 min 17 Sec Benchmark B: 10 min 45 Sec Benchmark C: 33 min 08 Sec Benchmark D: xx min xx Sec 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterdk Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Will the spreadsheet be updated before fm23 comes ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Peterdk said: Will the spreadsheet be updated before fm23 comes ?? Yep I'll be doing it next week In the meantime spread the word as we are only a dozen shy of beating last years total ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Brother Ben said: Yep I'll be doing it next week In the meantime spread the word as we are only a dozen shy of beating last years total ! I’ll take one for the team and do a test on my wife’s 10 year old laptop. Benchmark C and D will probably be way beyond what the laptop will handle though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 20:37, hancin said: Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Those are the sort of chart-topping results I would expect from a latest-gen, top tier, £769 CPU. The Benchmark A and B results aren't outstanding, but I think we are seeing diminishing returns in those benchmarks now. 2.5% faster in A and 3% faster in B than the top 12900k results. The real story is in Benchmark C and D, which this does extremely well in. 21% faster in C and 33.33% faster in D. It will be interesting to see how the Intel 13th-gen performs, and also the lower tier Ryzen 7000 chips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I finally have my new pc in my possession and now in working order. FM22 is downloaded, and my 3rd benchmark completed. This is chalk and cheese from what I had before. I'm looking forward to this. Type: Desktop Model: MSI Pro Z690-A Wifi DDr4 CPU Model: Intel Core i7 12700KF CPU Base Frequency: 3.6 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.0 GHz RAM: 32GB RAM Clockspeed: 2133Mhz GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti Graphics Level in 3D: Very High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 0 min 44 Sec Benchmark B: 3 min 53 Sec Benchmark C: 6 min 37 Sec Benchmark D: 18 min 39 Sec 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 17:44, Abaddon879 said: Those are the sort of chart-topping results I would expect from a latest-gen, top tier, £769 CPU. The Benchmark A and B results aren't outstanding, but I think we are seeing diminishing returns in those benchmarks now. 2.5% faster in A and 3% faster in B than the top 12900k results. The real story is in Benchmark C and D, which this does extremely well in. 21% faster in C and 33.33% faster in D. It will be interesting to see how the Intel 13th-gen performs, and also the lower tier Ryzen 7000 chips. Trouble is though Benchmark A is by far the most likely real world scenario. For C & D you would have to really dig down and add the full detail to the leagues which (and only SI will really know) I doubt pretty much anyone does. Personally I only ever add full detail to the leagues immediately above and below me and any leagues I loan players out to. I obviously don't want to argue against my own benchmark thread but I actually quite like that the percentages are quite low on the A & B tests as it proves you don't have to have a mega PC to play the game. That said i'm really encouraged by the C & D results lately which hopefully soon means that chucking on full detail for a load of leagues will be a viable setup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo11x Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) really looking forward to see how the new Intel CPUs stack up as I preparing to build a new PC and will have to choose between a 7000 and 13th gen. they seem to be neck and neck in regular gaming and a 6 core is more than enough for all other games but in FM an 8 core will be significantly faster than a 6 one, right? Edited October 21, 2022 by gizmo11x Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, gizmo11x said: really looking forward to see how the new Intel CPUs stack up as I preparing to build a new PC and will have to choose between a 7000 and 13th gen. they seem to be neck and neck in regular gaming and a 6 core is more than enough for all other games but in FM an 8 core will be significantly faster than a 6 one, right? Doubtful. In most use cases the sheer single core power of the Intel is likely to be better for FM in most use cases. We will see though. I'll update the spreadsheet for the final time this week and then the FM23 thread will go live on full release day, 8th November. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenz81 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, gizmo11x said: really looking forward to see how the new Intel CPUs stack up as I preparing to build a new PC and will have to choose between a 7000 and 13th gen. they seem to be neck and neck in regular gaming and a 6 core is more than enough for all other games but in FM an 8 core will be significantly faster than a 6 one, right? I’d go with the 7000 series myself. 13th Gen intel chips run too much for the speed they push, using lots of power. Once you adjust the chip to be a bit energy efficient, it will be on par with a AMD 7000 series chip, so will lose that bit of gain Intel had before. And in todays climate with energy prices rising, best to invest in a 7000. Also to use most of the cores, I suggest you put all the leagues you are running in full detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, greenz81 said: I’d go with the 7000 series myself. 13th Gen intel chips run too much for the speed they push, using lots of power. Once you adjust the chip to be a bit energy efficient, it will be on par with a AMD 7000 series chip, so will lose that bit of gain Intel had before. And in todays climate with energy prices rising, best to invest in a 7000. Also to use most of the cores, I suggest you put all the leagues you are running in full detail. A valid point. Depends on what you want from a chip I suppose. Will be great to see the two go head to head in the FM23 benchmarks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarJ Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 LTT released a video yesterday and 13th gen performed better in games and is well priced compared to R7000 2 hours ago, gizmo11x said: really looking forward to see how the new Intel CPUs stack up as I preparing to build a new PC and will have to choose between a 7000 and 13th gen. they seem to be neck and neck in regular gaming and a 6 core is more than enough for all other games but in FM an 8 core will be significantly faster than a 6 one, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Sir Matthew Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Type: Laptop Model: Asus TUF Gaming fx507zm CPU Model: Intel i7 12700H CPU Base Frequency: 2.30 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 4.70 GHz RAM: 16GB RAM Clockspeed: 4800 MT/s GPU: RTX 3060 Graphics Level in 3D: High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 50 Sec Benchmark B: 04 min 25 Sec Benchmark C: 09 min 41 Sec Benchmark D: xx min xx Sec Pleasantly surprised with benchmark A & B but quite dissapointed with Benchmark C result. I haven't used a monitoring program, but I suspect the laptop is struggling with keeping the CPU at Turbo Speed at all times. My first 3D Mark result was also underwhelming (10750 CPU score on TimeSpy with noticably drop during the test) but some changes made it better (13950 and constant 4.1 Ghz clock). I hope to find out what the perfect settings are for FM with this laptop (very little information to find online) Edit: Did benchmark C again while looking at the "Armoury Crate" power management tool and saw that the CPU never went above 3547 Mhz and was quite often at only 2100 Mhz which is even below its base frequency. Call me confused because I am... Edited October 21, 2022 by DJ Sir Matthew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff EdL Posted October 21, 2022 SI Staff Share Posted October 21, 2022 I expect its struggling to stay cool so it has to underclock itself to not overheat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 @EdLhave you guys ever thought about including some kind of benchmark tool inside FM that players can run and automatically compare it with other players benchmarks or is it just not practical/possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo11x Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Powermonger said: @EdLhave you guys ever thought about including some kind of benchmark tool inside FM that players can run and automatically compare it with other players benchmarks or is it just not practical/possible? that's not a bad idea maybe getting in touch with some of the review sites/channels to include FM in their tests (something similar to these 4 benchmarks). That would be so cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) vor 8 Stunden schrieb Powermonger: @EdLhave you guys ever thought about including some kind of benchmark tool inside FM that players can run and automatically compare it with other players benchmarks or is it just not practical/possible? Good idea! But there is no one I trust more when it comes to benchmarks than @Brother Benhimself Edited October 22, 2022 by Daveincid 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermonger Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Daveincid said: Good idea! But there is no one I trust more when it comes to benchmarks than @Brother Benhimself Not trying to do Ben out of a job It just had me thinking of having an option in game that you could run and it would you give you your stats with people with a similar game setup. There is still a place for a more detailed test setup like that has been run by Ben and others in the past. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveincid Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 vor 1 Minute schrieb Powermonger: Not trying to do Ben out of a job It just had me thinking of having an option in game that you could run and it would you give you your stats with people with a similar game setup. There is still a place for a more detailed test setup like that has been run by Ben and others in the past. Yeah it would definetly be a cool thing but I always prefer user-based benchmarks. In todays world you have so many benchmarks which aren't completely free of "influences" or they aren't 100% transparent. That's why I always trust this benchmark when deciding what CPU I'm going to buy next^^ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Powermonger said: Not trying to do Ben out of a job It just had me thinking of having an option in game that you could run and it would you give you your stats with people with a similar game setup. There is still a place for a more detailed test setup like that has been run by Ben and others in the past. While a good idea in concept, I think that with the number of people playing and then adding extra files to change leagues etc, it would be impossible to get a decent result table the likes of Bens due to too much individuality. Now if they were to implement it with ready made files similar to those used here then it would be a great tool and would get so many more data points than here. While 78 is a decent number for a forum data collection, imagine having thousands of data points to draw on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 Sounds like a great idea to be fair. Don't worry though folks i'm more than happy to run this thread until that time 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatie Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) Great topic, will there be one up for FM23 anytime soon? Looking to get a new laptop so I am very curious to see which CPU handles the newest iteration of FM the best. Edited October 27, 2022 by Wheatie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted October 27, 2022 Author Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Wheatie said: Great topic, will there be one up for FM23 anytime soon? Looking to get a new laptop so I am very curious to see which CPU handles the newest iteration of FM the best. As soon as the full game is out yes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarasso Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 21:37, hancin said: Decided to give it a spin while stability testing the new Zen 4 workstation. Note that I can't install a GPU that doesn't exist yet into it, so it's running a 7950x without dedicated graphics which is not a good setup. FM engine still capable of running 100% all-core on match days. 360mm AIO cooler, was getting 5.65 GHz on low core count usage, and 5.15GHz all-core. Type: Desktop Model: Custom CPU Model: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X CPU Base Frequency: 4.50 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.70 GHz RAM: 64GB RAM Clockspeed: 6000 MT/s GPU: Integrated Graphics Level in 3D: Low Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 00 min 39 Sec Benchmark B: 03 min 08 Sec Benchmark C: 04 min 43 Sec Benchmark D: 11 min 42 Sec Hello ,Can I ask, what motherboard did You use? And Windows 10 or Windows 11? 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hancin Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 27/10/2022 at 22:22, Jarasso said: Hello ,Can I ask, what motherboard did You use? And Windows 10 or Windows 11? 🤔 Sure. System uses the Crosshair X670E Extreme MB, latest drivers on Windows 11 22H2. I tried rerunning the test with a GPU, but it didn't seem like it affected A or B so I didn't run the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Just run Benchmark A(or as near as I can replicate) in FM23 and the result is interesting to say the least A better GPU should not impact the data I would assume. But how much impact would doubling my RAM make? Getting a Benchmark B duplicate ready now to see how that compares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarJ Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: how much impact would doubling my RAM make? it shouldn't make much a difference in a game like FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Yeah above 8 gig I would wager it makes no difference at all Actually it would be great if someone could take out a line of RAM to test this. My guess is the benefits of dual channel are also negligible Edited November 1, 2022 by Brother Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pompeyboyz said: Just run Benchmark A(or as near as I can replicate) in FM23 and the result is interesting to say the least It's worth noting that these results are a season in so we are talking 12th - 19th Sep 2023 for FM23 and of course the number of games simulated will be entirely different Mind you I guess we will find out next week! Edited November 1, 2022 by Brother Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Bit confused by my FM23 tests My setup on FM22 tests was CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 with 16GB DDR4 3200mhz and GTX 1060 6gb My setup on FM23 tests is Same CPU. 32GB DDR4 3200mhz and RTX 3070 Bench A FM22 - 1:32 FM23 - 0:48??? Bench B FM22 - 6:11 FM23 - 8:56??? Now obviously I might have some discrepancy in the bench's setup but I tried to match exactly where possible. Tomorrow I will re-run as I get a new CPU but moving to the 5800X Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: Bit confused by my FM23 tests My setup on FM22 tests was CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 with 16GB DDR4 3200mhz and GTX 1060 6gb My setup on FM23 tests is Same CPU. 32GB DDR4 3200mhz and RTX 3070 Bench A FM22 - 1:32 FM23 - 0:48??? Bench B FM22 - 6:11 FM23 - 8:56??? Now obviously I might have some discrepancy in the bench's setup but I tried to match exactly where possible. Tomorrow I will re-run as I get a new CPU but moving to the 5800X It'll be down to the amount of matches being played. There's not really any value comparing year on year. You can only really compare to other processors. I'm even contemplating changing the tests for FM23 to avoid such comparisons 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Spreadsheet and 2nd post updated for the final time. 87 systems tested this year which is 9 shy of FM21 but a really great effort by everyone. The clear winner is the R9 7950X from @hancin, however we have yet to see a high end 13th Gen Intel during the tests. Special mention to @mstrmind5 who gave up over 1 hour and 15 mins of his life to do the test, as did a few others. Big thanks to everyone who took part, without you guys the thread would be pointless. Its also become far more than just a speedtest it has become a good way to diagnose issues against similar computers which is a great bi-product of the tests. So now on to the FM23 thread which will be with you in the coming days Thanks all ! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 14:19, \'Appy \'Ammer said: I finally have my new pc in my possession and now in working order. FM22 is downloaded, and my 3rd benchmark completed. This is chalk and cheese from what I had before. I'm looking forward to this. Type: Desktop Model: MSI Pro Z690-A Wifi DDr4 CPU Model: Intel Core i7 12700KF CPU Base Frequency: 3.6 GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 5.0 GHz RAM: 32GB RAM Clockspeed: 2133Mhz GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti Graphics Level in 3D: Very High Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 0 min 44 Sec Great effort @Brother Ben. My Benchmark A test on my new pc doesn't appear on the spreadsheet, but my others were. I am, however, proudly sitting at the bottom though with my old pc! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, \'Appy \'Ammer said: Great effort @Brother Ben. My Benchmark A test on my new pc doesn't appear on the spreadsheet, but my others were. I am, however, proudly sitting at the bottom though with my old pc! Well spotted, not sure what happened there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Ben Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) Quick little preview of the FM23 benchmarks They will differ slightly from last year. 1 & 2 are the same test but with more detail added to the latter. The same goes for 3 & 4 A lot more straight forward hopefully Edited November 8, 2022 by Brother Ben 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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