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Just an FYI if you didn't know, some of the scouting regions have changed.

Scandinavia is now 'Northern Europe' for some reason, I think it is the same countries though. 

You now have 'Western Europe' - which is basically Portugal, Spain and France. 

South America East & West have become South America (North) and South America (South), the latter includes Brazil along with Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay etc. (North is Columbia, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela etc.) 

South Europe is now Italy together with Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia (I think) 

Central Europe is now Holland, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia 

I haven't included them all, but if you look at your Scouting Knowledge map, then click on each region it will highlight the countries in that region, although it could be clearer. 

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1 ora fa, Gouranga ha scritto:

This is way overdue and much better!

 

Finally! I used to manually assign countries to divide scouting regions, as I believe they were too crowded (Eastern Europe had SO many countries to scout). Does anyone have a list of the new regions?

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19 hours ago, tajj7 said:

Just an FYI if you didn't know, some of the scouting regions have changed.

Scandinavia is now 'Northern Europe' for some reason, I think it is the same countries though. 

You now have 'Western Europe' - which is basically Portugal, Spain and France. 

South America East & West have become South America (North) and South America (South), the latter includes Brazil along with Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay etc. (North is Columbia, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela etc.) 

South Europe is now Italy together with Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia (I think) 

Central Europe is now Holland, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia 

I haven't included them all, but if you look at your Scouting Knowledge map, then click on each region it will highlight the countries in that region, although it could be clearer. 

Like most of the minor changes, we will get used to it with use.

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1 hour ago, FrazT said:

Like most of the minor changes, we will get used to it with use.

It wasn't a criticism really, it was so people wouldn't just send their scouts to regions and wonder why there weren't getting reports from certain countries. In some cases it definitely makes more sense as some regions like Eastern Europe and Central Europe previously had too many countries in them. 

Though I think the interface could be clearer showing you exactly the countries in the region and maybe adding names to them on the map. 

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I don't really mind what the scouting regions are as long as:

A) There is some internal logic to them.

B) There is a quick and easy in-game way to look a list of countries in each region.

Culturally and geographically, there are perfectly reasonable arguments to suggest that Spain and Italy are 'Southern European' and/or 'Western European' nations. Depending on your perspective, Germany and Austria could both easily be defined as being in 'Western Europe' or 'Central Europe'. For the purposes of the game, I'm not sure it really matters which precise definitions they use as long as the names make sense at a glance.

Point B is far more important. It's always struck me as quite absurd that it's easier to look up scouting regions online than finding them in game. There should be a colour-coded world map on the Scouting Knowledge page, and when you are setting up scouting assignments the list of countries in a region should be listed in brackets when you select it.

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6 minuti fa, Bojanbbz94 ha scritto:

I don't really mind what the scouting regions are as long as:

A) There is some internal logic to them.

B) There is a quick and easy in-game way to look a list of countries in each region.

Culturally and geographically, there are perfectly reasonable arguments to suggest that Spain and Italy are 'Southern European' and/or 'Western European' nations. Depending on your perspective, Germany and Austria could both easily be defined as being in 'Western Europe' or 'Central Europe'. For the purposes of the game, I'm not sure it really matters which precise definitions they use as long as the names make sense at a glance.

Point B is far more important. It's always struck me as quite absurd that it's easier to look up scouting regions online than finding them in game. There should be a colour-coded world map on the Scouting Knowledge page, and when you are setting up scouting assignments the list of countries in a region should be listed in brackets when you select it.

I agree, setting up scouts manually and in an efficient way is very tedious the way it is right now, maybe its worth posting in the feature suggetions forum

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15 minutes ago, Bojanbbz94 said:

I don't really mind what the scouting regions are as long as:

A) There is some internal logic to them.

B) There is a quick and easy in-game way to look a list of countries in each region.

Culturally and geographically, there are perfectly reasonable arguments to suggest that Spain and Italy are 'Southern European' and/or 'Western European' nations. Depending on your perspective, Germany and Austria could both easily be defined as being in 'Western Europe' or 'Central Europe'. For the purposes of the game, I'm not sure it really matters which precise definitions they use as long as the names make sense at a glance.

Point B is far more important. It's always struck me as quite absurd that it's easier to look up scouting regions online than finding them in game. There should be a colour-coded world map on the Scouting Knowledge page, and when you are setting up scouting assignments the list of countries in a region should be listed in brackets when you select it.

Interesting that you mention Austria because as far as I can see Austria and Switzerland don't seem to be in any region when I look at the maps. 

They are not highlighted red in Central Europe, South Europe or Eastern Europe, despite being in between all those regions. 

Unless I am missing something? 

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On 23/10/2021 at 13:45, Leon92 said:

is there a list of all the changes and the new resulting scouting regions somewhere?

I had a list from last year in an Excel document, and I've updated my list. 99% sure these are correct, but a few may have slipped past me.

 

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Anguilla

Caribbean

Antigua & Barbuda

Caribbean

Aruba

Caribbean

Bahamas

Caribbean

Barbados

Caribbean

Bermuda

Caribbean

Bonaire

Caribbean

British Virgin Islands

Caribbean

Cayman Islands

Caribbean

Cuba

Caribbean

Curacao

Caribbean

Dominica

Caribbean

Dominican Republic

Caribbean

Grenada

Caribbean

Guadeloupe

Caribbean

Haiti

Caribbean

Jamaica

Caribbean

Martinique

Caribbean

Montserrat

Caribbean

Puerto Rico

Caribbean

Saint Barthélemy

Caribbean

Saint Lucia

Caribbean

Saint Vincent &
the Grenadines

Caribbean

Sint Maarten

Caribbean

St Kitts & Nevis

Caribbean

St Martin

Caribbean

Trinidad & Tobago

Caribbean

Turks & Caicos

Caribbean

Cameroon

Central Africa

Central African Republic

Central Africa

Chad

Central Africa

Congo

Central Africa

DR Congo

Central Africa

Equatorial Guinea

Central Africa

Gabon

Central Africa

Sao Tome & Principe

Central Africa

Belize

Central America

Costa Rica

Central America

El Salvador

Central America

Guatemala

Central America

Honduras

Central America

Nicaragua

Central America

Panama

Central America

Kazakhstan

Central Asia

Kyrgyzstan

Central Asia

Tajikistan

Central Asia

Turkmenistan

Central Asia

Uzbekistan

Central Asia

Austria

Central Europe

Belgium

Central Europe

Czech Rep.

Central Europe

Germany

Central Europe

Liechtenstein

Central Europe

Luxembourg

Central Europe

Netherlands

Central Europe

Poland

Central Europe

Slovakia

Central Europe

Switzerland

Central Europe

Burundi

East Africa

Djibouti

East Africa

Eritrea

East Africa

Ethiopia

East Africa

Kenya

East Africa

Mayotte

East Africa

Reunion

East Africa

Rwanda

East Africa

Somalia

East Africa

South Sudan

East Africa

Tanzania

East Africa

Uganda

East Africa

Zanzibar

East Africa

China

East Asia

Chinese Taipei

East Asia

Guam

East Asia

Hong Kong

East Asia

Japan

East Asia

Macau (China PR)

East Asia

Mongolia

East Asia

North Korea

East Asia

Northern Mariana

East Asia

South Korea

East Asia

Bulgaria

Eastern Europe

Hungary

Eastern Europe

Moldova

Eastern Europe

Romania

Eastern Europe

Serbia

Eastern Europe

Afghanistan

Middle East

Bahrain

Middle East

Iran

Middle East

Iraq

Middle East

Israel

Middle East

Jordan

Middle East

Kuwait

Middle East

Lebanon

Middle East

Oman

Middle East

Palestine

Middle East

Qatar

Middle East

Saudi Arabia

Middle East

Syria

Middle East

U.A.E.

Middle East

Yemen

Middle East

Algeria

North Africa

Egypt

North Africa

Libya

North Africa

Morocco

North Africa

Sudan

North Africa

Tunisia

North Africa

Canada

North America

Mexico

North America

St. Pierre & Miquelon

North America

U.S.A.

North America

US Virgin Islands

North America

Belarus

North Eastern Europe

Estonia

North Eastern Europe

Latvia

North Eastern Europe

Lithuania

North Eastern Europe

Russia

North Eastern Europe

Ukraine

North Eastern Europe

Denmark

Northern Europe

Faroe Islands

Northern Europe

Finland

Northern Europe

Iceland

Northern Europe

Norway

Northern Europe

Sweden

Northern Europe

American Samoa

Oceania

Cook Islands

Oceania

Fiji

Oceania

Kiribati

Oceania

Micronesia

Oceania

New Caledonia

Oceania

New Zealand

Oceania

Papua New Guinea

Oceania

Samoa

Oceania

Solomon Islands

Oceania

Tahiti

Oceania

Tonga

Oceania

Tuvalu

Oceania

Vanuatu

Oceania

Wallis & Futuna Islands

Oceania

Bolivia

South America (North)

Colombia

South America (North)

Ecuador

South America (North)

French Guiana

South America (North)

Guyana

South America (North)

Peru

South America (North)

Surinam

South America (North)

Venezuela

South America (North)

Argentina

South America (South)

Brazil

South America (South)

Chile

South America (South)

Paraguay

South America (South)

Uruguay

South America (South)

Bangladesh

South Asia

Bhutan

South Asia

India

South Asia

Maldives

South Asia

Nepal

South Asia

Pakistan

South Asia

Sri Lanka

South Asia

Armenia

South Eastern Europe

Azerbeijan

South Eastern Europe

Cyprus

South Eastern Europe

Georgia

South Eastern Europe

Greece

South Eastern Europe

North Macedonia

South Eastern Europe

Turkey

South Eastern Europe

Albania

South Europe

Bosnia & Herzegovina

South Europe

Croatia

South Europe

Italy

South Europe

Kosovo

South Europe

Malta

South Europe

Montenegro

South Europe

San Marino

South Europe

Slovenia

South Europe

Australia

Southeast Asia

Brunei

Southeast Asia

Cambodia

Southeast Asia

East Timor

Southeast Asia

Indonesia

Southeast Asia

Laos

Southeast Asia

Malaysia

Southeast Asia

Myanmar

Southeast Asia

Philippines

Southeast Asia

Singapore

Southeast Asia

Thailand

Southeast Asia

Vietnam

Southeast Asia

Angola

Southern Africa

Botswana

Southern Africa

Comoros

Southern Africa

Lesotho

Southern Africa

Madagascar

Southern Africa

Malawi

Southern Africa

Mauritius

Southern Africa

Mozambique

Southern Africa

Namibia

Southern Africa

Seychelles

Southern Africa

South Africa

Southern Africa

Swaziland

Southern Africa

Zambia

Southern Africa

Zimbabwe

Southern Africa

England

UK & Ireland

Ireland

UK & Ireland

Northern Ireland

UK & Ireland

Scotland

UK & Ireland

Wales

UK & Ireland

Benin

Western Africa

Burkina Faso

Western Africa

Cape Verde

Western Africa

Gambia

Western Africa

Ghana

Western Africa

Guinea

Western Africa

Guinea-Bissau

Western Africa

Ivory Coast

Western Africa

Liberia

Western Africa

Mali

Western Africa

Mauritania

Western Africa

Niger

Western Africa

Nigeria

Western Africa

Senegal

Western Africa

Sierra Leone

Western Africa

Togo

Western Africa

Andorra

Western Europe

France

Western Europe

Gibraltar

Western Europe

Portugal

Western Europe

Spain

Western Europe

 

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On 23/10/2021 at 14:33, Bojanbbz94 said:

I don't really mind what the scouting regions are as long as:

A) There is some internal logic to them.

B) There is a quick and easy in-game way to look a list of countries in each region.

Culturally and geographically, there are perfectly reasonable arguments to suggest that Spain and Italy are 'Southern European' and/or 'Western European' nations. Depending on your perspective, Germany and Austria could both easily be defined as being in 'Western Europe' or 'Central Europe'. For the purposes of the game, I'm not sure it really matters which precise definitions they use as long as the names make sense at a glance.

Point B is far more important. It's always struck me as quite absurd that it's easier to look up scouting regions online than finding them in game. There should be a colour-coded world map on the Scouting Knowledge page, and when you are setting up scouting assignments the list of countries in a region should be listed in brackets when you select it.

Agreed with the second point. It's annoying having t manually search what countries are in what region. You should be able to tell as soon as you are looking to send your scouts there. 

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44 minutes ago, FalseNineteen said:

I had a list from last year in an Excel document, and I've updated my list. 99% sure these are correct, but a few may have slipped past me.

Thanks for this!

Can you by any chance attach the Excel document/link?

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On 23/10/2021 at 14:40, john1 said:

I am finding it quite confusing sadly!
 

I agree, when you select a region, list of countries should pop up! Instead of taking a wild guess!

I get the point on this... it assumes a degree of geographical knowledge... which I just don't have :lol:

Hopefully some kind person and make a big list so that we can keep it to hand when we do our scouting

 

Edit: Just seen FalseNineteens list! top work!

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What if regions were grouped first by Federation Membership, then ordered by international rank rather than alphabet?

Not replacing geographic grouping, but in addition too (maybe still sorted by international rank though)

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On 27/10/2021 at 00:39, CoffeeFueledCurmudgeon said:

Argentina and Brazil are South America South? Uh, ok.

Seems someone at SI didn't look at a map :D

Should be more like the following:

South America (East)	Brazil
South America (East)	French Guiana
South America (East)	Guyana
South America (East)	Surinam
South America (North)	Bolivia
South America (North)	Colombia
South America (North)	Ecuador
South America (North)	Peru
South America (North)	Venezuela
South America (South)	Argentina
South America (South)	Chile
South America (South)	Paraguay
South America (South)	Uruguay

 

 
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I added a feature request to change the scouting regions for Europe because the old regions were pretty much the old eastern block in Eastern Europe which since many years now consists of a lot of countries. So as someone above pointed out this was overdue and I'm happy SI did something about it. I think the most important thing is to balance the number of countries or their combined area in each region. The European regions in FM amount to eight and they look as below. I think they are balanced in a good way.

 

FM-regioner FM22.png

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