Big Geordie Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 More on David Beckham; Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefmveteran86 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, mark1985 said: I got married on a day when it was 40 degrees Celsius. Yes I am aware of what hot is. I also wanted to get out of the damn thing into something more comfortable as soon as I could Edit: As you're a royalist, name one way the royal family has improved your life. How does having a royal family make your life better than not having one? I've never said I'm a royalist I do respected the Queen and many of the members of the Royal Family bar Camilla and Prince Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Confused Clarity said: You know he didn't have to wear the suit at all. Right? Managers were asked to wear suits by the Premier League, rightly or wrongly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 17, 2022 Author Share Posted September 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Managers were asked to wear suits by the Premier League, rightly or wrongly. Well that's bloody daft too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, Lucas said: I'm against the monarchy on the basic principle that people should be born equal under the eyes of the law, and that there is no place for a monarchy in a democracy. There's definitely things about the Queen I don't think she's done well for herself out of, but I don't think personal arguments against the monarchy (ie. Liz and Charles are bad people) are all that compelling reasons to get rid of it. Agree that monarchy is fairly ridiculous. But I also think that personal arguments against the monarchy are equally ridiculous to personal arguments in favour of it, especially when the articles have to dig as deep as "didn't agree with those advisers that reckoned she should go to Aberfan to get photos with mourners asap" to conclude she can't be that nice a person. (Apart from anything else, I can think of a few actual politicians that would absolutely relish going to a disaster like Aberfan as an opportunity to improve their ratings, and that's a lot less nice...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 17, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Ackter said: Err, bit dodgy that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Just points out the ridiculousness of the Times headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 17, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 17, 2022 Just now, Ackter said: Just points out the ridiculousness of the Times headline. Yeah but the name of tweeter doesn't make that sound any better either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Ahah, that's his actual real name 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 17, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 17, 2022 How unfortunate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 He's also gay, which makes it less creepy again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I thought this was a fair and interesting video regarding English football's response: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 12 hours ago, mark1985 said: Edit: As you're a royalist, name one way the royal family has improved your life. How does having a royal family make your life better than not having one? Granted, I'm not a royalist nor British but I have a King nonetheless. There is one way my royal family helps, I don't have to wake up one day with someone like Trump in charge, I don't have to feel embarrassed just being randomly born in Norway. They also help opening doors for exporting goods, not literally of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 But they aren't really in charge, your PM is. Just like we have a monarch but still have to wake up with Truss in charge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Lets just vote in a symbolic head of state every 10 years or something. King David Beckham, King Gordon Ramsey, Queen Charlotte Church Edited September 18, 2022 by skybluedave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) If I want to be King, can I just stand in a line for 12 hours or do I need to do more? Asking for a friend. Edited September 18, 2022 by Bootador 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bootador said: If I want to be King, can I just stand in a line for 12 hours as do I need to do more? Asking for a friend. AFAIK you have to ruthlessly slaughter anyone opposed to you and exploit and oppress as many people as you can for your own personal gain for a couple of hundred years first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 18, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, arenaross said: The coverage just gets worse 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Can we get a bank holiday every year then? We get a day off for Jesus, but not for the Queen - doesn't seem right to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrw072 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bootador said: Can we get a bank holiday every year then? We get a day off for Jesus, but not for the Queen - doesn't seem right to me. We'll probably have one next year too for the Coronation unless its a weekend i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Coronation, Charles dead in a year, Wills coronation… never ending conveyor belt. Never had it so good 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Loki679 said: AFAIK you have to ruthlessly slaughter anyone opposed to you and exploit and oppress as many people as you can for your own personal gain for a couple of hundred years first. That's basically every country in the world though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, arenaross said: We really need this kind of hyperbolic ******** to be called out instead of just left unchallenged. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 35 minutes ago, arenaross said: Bring back Joe Lycett. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, arenaross said: You see why Sinn Fein refuse to attend Parliament 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, arenaross said: Does he say "world" or "we'll"? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Definitely world. He says "the" before so it wouldn't make any sense to say "the we'll". Baffling. Edited September 18, 2022 by ginnybob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSpecialOne Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Rafalution said: But they aren't really in charge, your PM is. Just like we have a monarch but still have to wake up with Truss in charge Isn't that kind of the point though? Trump wasn't bad just strictly from a governance perspective but because there also exists no separation between the symbolic weight that comes with being head of state and the executive role. In the UK, the executive role doesn't also carry the symbolic weight so your Trump-esque cult of personality and all that has entailed and continues to entail are less likely. Now personally I don't think that even comes to close being able to justify a monarchy in my eyes and this sort of separation can probably be achieved by other means (and has) but its still a benefit there of and a significant difference between the two names floated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, arenaross said: Much preferred Kuenssberg's show when she had serious guests like Joe Lycett on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback in the changing room Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, arenaross said: I thought they stopped booking comedians for this this show. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Hmm. Should the BBC really be putting statements from Prince Andrew out like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, NotSoSpecialOne said: Isn't that kind of the point though? Trump wasn't bad just strictly from a governance perspective but because there also exists no separation between the symbolic weight that comes with being head of state and the executive role. In the UK, the executive role doesn't also carry the symbolic weight so your Trump-esque cult of personality and all that has entailed and continues to entail are less likely. Now personally I don't think that even comes to close being able to justify a monarchy in my eyes and this sort of separation can probably be achieved by other means (and has) but its still a benefit there of and a significant difference between the two names floated. I don't think it makes any real difference tbh. Do you judge Germany by their Chancellor or their President? Could anyone in here even name the president? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Hoyle again acting with later honours being his primary interest. Well played Celtic fans today. I much prefer that response to Dundee Utd's yesterday. Although I have absolutely no issue with the latter I probably wouldn't do it myself, although if anything could induce me to do it it would be the sectarianism of Ibrox 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback in the changing room Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, arenaross said: Hmm. Should the BBC really be putting statements from Prince Andrew out like this? He is getting so Fredo'd* by Charles**, isn't he? They're going to announce that he's taken holy orders and moved to the monastery of a silent order when people notice he's not been seen for a while. *The Godfather, not the chocolate bar. **Or possibly William, who allegedly wasn't happy about even the limited role he had post allegations. Edited September 18, 2022 by leftback in the changing room 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, leftback in the changing room said: He is getting so Fredo'd* by Charles**, isn't he? They're going to announce that he's taken holy orders and moved to the monastery of a silent order when people notice he's not been seen for a while. *The Godfather, not the chocolate bar. **Or possibly William, who allegedly wasn't happy about even the limited role he had post allegations. "I knew it was you, Andrew" doesn't quite have the same ring to it. Don't think it would be a fishing trip either. "Let's go on a boat to my obscure island, Andrew" instead maybe. Edited September 18, 2022 by EnterUsernameHere 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Isnt the problem that he already went to a specific obscure island? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSpecialOne Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Rafalution said: I don't think it makes any real difference tbh. Do you judge Germany by their Chancellor or their President? Could anyone in here even name the president? I don't possess an intimate enough knowledge of Germany to be able comment on that, in fairness. So I'll double back to the original examples and re-iterate that there's a pretty observable difference between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Ok so people are getting to the end of the queue and then heading straight back to requeue again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said: "I knew it was you, Andrew" doesn't quite have the same ring to it. Don't think it would be a fishing trip either. "Let's go on a boat to my obscure island, Andrew" instead maybe. Naa they'll go back a bit further and get him at The Severn Bridge Toll Booths 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, NotSoSpecialOne said: I don't possess an intimate enough knowledge of Germany to be able comment on that, in fairness. So I'll double back to the original examples and re-iterate that there's a pretty observable difference between the two. Okay, well then going back to you're original examples I don't think it makes any difference that there is a symbolic Head of State, what matters is how bad or good the person in charge is (President for the US, PM for here). If we were as batshit crazy as the southern states then Boris' cult would be just as dangerous as Trump's is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Naa they'll go back a bit further and get him at The Severn Bridge Toll Booths Or set up a meeting at Pizza Express in Woking... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, Ackter said: Ok so people are getting to the end of the queue and then heading straight back to requeue again... The Queue has become Ouroboros. It is self sustaining. Long live The Queue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Loki679 said: AFAIK you have to ruthlessly slaughter anyone opposed to you and exploit and oppress as many people as you can for your own personal gain for a couple of hundred years first. Welcome to a whole lot of countries past history Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, oche balboa said: Welcome to a whole lot of countries past history Let's make it part of our past history Edited September 18, 2022 by Loki679 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 From Cold War Steve; 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I'm not buying into the royal family needing to have almost £20bn in wealth. As honourable public servants who are here to serve you'd think maybe a cool billion would be enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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