Gricehead Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 People saying they never queue have obviously never needed the toilet before GNR or London Marathon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gricehead said: People saying they never queue have obviously never needed the toilet before GNR or London Marathon Always find a set of stairs to **** down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, Bootador said: For me it's all about time = money. Say you value your time at £25 an hour, 12 hours is £300. To look at a coffin for 10 seconds. Not for me. How would you value putting 100+ hours into a video game to see a 2 minute cut scene? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Barry Cartman said: How would you value putting 100+ hours into a video game to see a 2 minute cut scene? Don't you put 100+ hours into a video game to enjoy playing a video game for 100+ hours? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, m_fenton said: Don't you put 100+ hours into a video game to enjoy playing a video game for 100+ hours? Oh my sweet summer child. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: How would you value putting 100+ hours into a video game to see a 2 minute cut scene? Probably why most JRPGs can get in the bin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: How would you value putting 100+ hours into a video game to see a 2 minute cut scene? I do on FM. That little 2min trophy celebration scene is what makes it all worth it 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 43 minutes ago, Peter G said: Regardless of whether you agree of the Monarchy or not. You can't help but agree that we don't half do these things well, we know how to put on a show Confident statement this. What elements of it are "putting on a good show"? There seems to be a potentially unfounded assumption that the rest of the world is looking on and is somehow impressed in many quarters here. Huge parts of the world must be a) not looking on or b) find it utterly cringeworthy and outdated and a horrendous waste of money, time and resources. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 It's definitely not just a British thing Over here when ex prime minister Lee Kuan Yew passed away, queues also went to 10+ hours while his body was in state. About half a million people visited according to the count. That's probably like 10% of the population then. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, bermybhoy said: Huge parts of the world must be a) not looking on or b) find it utterly cringeworthy and outdated and a horrendous waste of money, time and resources. Most parts of the world are merely surprised and then consider Brexit and Boris Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 It's not unfounded though. Even if you don't like the monarchy ( and I don't care about them personally) , you'd have to be blind to ignore that loads do, around the world. Even a casual glance at non UK news sources would have shown you this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I wonder if looks good to the people of Ireland, or Britain's once largest colony India. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, Smallen said: I wonder if looks good to the people of Ireland, or Britain's once largest colony India. Depends if you're deliberately trying to miss the point or not. The argument was never that it looks good to everyone or that there aren't people who don't like it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: It's not unfounded though. Even if you don't like the monarchy ( and I don't care about them personally) , you'd have to be blind to ignore that loads do, around the world. Even a casual glance at non UK news sources would have shown you this Well no, the key part here is not that news sources are paying attention, it's that people around the world are impressed. That they think it's a great show and think the UK is "doing it well." Really? Edited September 16, 2022 by bermybhoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Miss what point, sorry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, bermybhoy said: Well no, the key part here is not that news sources are paying attention, it's that people around the world are impressed. Really? Plenty are impressed and care because the monarchy still has a large global following, plenty will not give two *****, plenty will hate it because of what colonialism means. This isn't a controversial point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said: Plenty are, plenty will not give two *****, plenty will hate it. This isn't a controversial point Dunno, maybe semantics here somehow? If you hate it or maybe even find it offensive are you really going to say that you grudgingly respect what a terrific show of pomp it all was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) I feel like there's some British exceptionalism at play here, do people realise other countries have really daft pomp and ceremony things as well? I mean sure we can debate whether the royal family should still exist (imo, no) and it is offensive to a lot of people, but I don't think other countries are looking at this and laughing at the pomp and ceremony stuff, they do it as well. Edited September 16, 2022 by Coulthard's Jaw 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just now, Coulthard's Jaw said: I feel like there's some British exceptionalism at play here, do people realise other countries have really daft pomp and ceremony things as well? I mean sure we can debate whether the royal family should still exist (imo, no) and it is offensive to a lot of people, but I don't think other countries are looking at this and going laughing at the pomp and ceremony stuff, they do it as well. This is partly the point I'm trying to get. Whether you agree with the Monarchy or not. Whether you agree with the events that have happened with certain things being cancelled or not. Whether you agree with queueing up to see the Queen or not. We are pretty good at putting on an event with ceremonial or pomp involved 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, bermybhoy said: Dunno, maybe semantics here somehow? If you hate it or maybe even find it offensive are you really going to say that you grudgingly respect what a terrific show of pomp it all was? I'd probably call it so far a well executed procession, that I think is a massively disruptive waste of money, but that's because I don't care about the monarchy, and it's colonial past. But I'm not so blinkered that I can't see how those who care, or at the very least don't hate it, will think it's looks incredible, like my mum (who was born in newly independent Ghana at the time and loves it oddly) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, Smallen said: I wonder if looks good to the people of Ireland, or Britain's once largest colony India. Well, nah, but then you just switch it off and ignore it. By all accounts (save to speaking as a whole), Liz did a good job of respecting decolonisation and has done decent enough work to maintain/repair relations that Britain had, her visit to Ireland for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, sc91 said: Well, nah, but then you just switch it off and ignore it. By all accounts (save to speaking as a whole), Liz did a good job of respecting decolonisation and has done decent enough work to maintain/repair relations that Britain had, her visit to Ireland for example. According to the opinion polls, the Queen was more popular in Ireland than any of their policitians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, sc91 said: Well, nah, but then you just switch it off and ignore it. By all accounts (save to speaking as a whole), Liz did a good job of respecting decolonisation and has done decent enough work to maintain/repair relations that Britain had, her visit to Ireland for example. Sinn Fein's reaction to her death has been telling of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: According to the opinion polls, the Queen was more popular in Ireland than any of their policitians. My mom, nan and aunts all liked her. My misses family the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: I feel like there's some British exceptionalism at play here, do people realise other countries have really daft pomp and ceremony things as well? Is their pomp and ceremony symbolic of their colonial history and Empire? I dunno… I’m willing to accept my opinions skew my perception of how it might be viewed globally, but I think there’s a case for exceptionalism sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smallen said: Is their pomp and ceremony symbolic of their colonial history and Empire? I dunno… I’m willing to accept my opinions skew my perception of how it might be viewed globally, but I think there’s a case for exceptionalism sometimes. Colonial Africa, in their many many different tribal and national ways did pomp, ceremony and celebration long, long before Europeans turned up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Bootador said: For me it's all about time = money. Say you value your time at £25 an hour, 12 hours is £300. To look at a coffin for 10 seconds. Not for me. It’s history & people have the story to tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decapitated Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 David Beckham just went to the lying in state on the webcam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) She was fairly popular in India, tbf, at least for a well-known UK politician/Royal Family member. The first time she came here, you literally had hundreds of thousands of people going out to catch a glimpse of her. Churchill is despised though. Edited September 16, 2022 by Darius1998 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 41 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: I feel like there's some British exceptionalism at play here, do people realise other countries have really daft pomp and ceremony things as well? I mean sure we can debate whether the royal family should still exist (imo, no) and it is offensive to a lot of people, but I don't think other countries are looking at this and laughing at the pomp and ceremony stuff, they do it as well. This, basically 13 minutes ago, Smallen said: Is their pomp and ceremony symbolic of their colonial history and Empire? I dunno… I’m willing to accept my opinions skew my perception of how it might be viewed globally, but I think there’s a case for exceptionalism sometimes. I'm sure I've seen you post shots of London streets in Union Jacks before, national pride is even in the most progressive countries of the world. Portugal's national day commemorates this: Quote Camões wrote Os Lusíadas (usually translated as The Lusiads), Portugal's national epic poem celebrating Portuguese history and achievements. The poem focuses mainly on the 15th-century Portuguese explorations, which brought fame and fortune to the country. The poem, considered one of the finest and most important works in Portuguese literature, became a symbol for the great feats of the Portuguese Empire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 David Beckham queued for hours to see the coffin. Fair play to him as he could have had access to jump the queue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, decapitated said: David Beckham just went to the lying in state on the webcam. One last attempt at a beg for a knighthood? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Imagine getting to stand in a queue with Beck’s. Now THATS worth it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Beckham queuing for 12 hours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 And Phil and Holly insisted on jumping the queue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, skybluedave said: One last attempt at a beg for a knighthood? Yep, see through attempt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootador Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Beckham queuing for 12 hours Hahaha, come on man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 tbf I'd have thought half the queue in front of Becks would branch off to queue up to get his autograph Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, enigmatic said: tbf I'd have thought half the queue in front of Becks would branch off to queue up to get his autograph Loads of selfies doing the rounds on social media Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Just seen the images of Becks. He legit looks like he’s been queuing for 13 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback in the changing room Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Wiggins Top Boys said: They could save themselves 16 hours and just walk over to Albins memorial garden and bow to my grandad instead. He would have hated that What was his football team? I'll leave a scarf of his most hated rivals for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I think he came across really well and did it for genuine reasons, fair play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Yeah no beef with Beckham, fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggins Top Boys Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 minute ago, leftback in the changing room said: What was his football team? I'll leave a scarf of his most hated rivals for him. Millwall but back in those days people would go watch whoever was at home that week so often watched Palace and Charlton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftback in the changing room Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wiggins Top Boys said: Millwall but back in those days people would go watch whoever was at home that week so often watched Palace and Charlton Noted. I'll drop him a West Ham/Chelsea half-and-half scarf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax Dave Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 That's low, man. Really low. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypaul Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Smallen said: I wonder if looks good to the people of Ireland, or Britain's once largest colony India. Probably, considering living in the UK seems to be fine for many from both countries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senoj Lihp Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 imagine if becks gets snubbed for the knighthood again.. those leaked emails will be like "queued for 12 hours to see her maj and charlie boy still mugged me off" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden boy Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 You think this is all mad? When King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand died in 2016, the official mourning period was a year (the whole country had to observe 30 days of mourning, which is akin to 30 days of what's happening on the BBC right now, the football season got called off and entertainment venues shut or reduced there hours). His body lay in state for close to a year, and he wasn't cremated until over a year after his death. His successor was crowned 2 and a half years after he took the throne. All in a country where it is illegal to criticise or insult the monarchy. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batch Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 "What channel shall we watch the funeral on dear ?" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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