SouthCoastRed Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, mark1985 said: My argument is why are they any more worthy of being the monarch than me? Or you? Or Dave from the pub? Being the head of a country (regardless of how much power they do or don’t have) shouldn’t be down to the lottery of birth. Now I understand why you moved to Boston, you tea stealing inbred colonial scum. There isn’t a drop of pure German blood in your veins, you have no connection to Ze Glorious Third Reich, errrrr Royal Family Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, ginnybob said: There are plenty of good arguments for a Republic ffs. Just because BG didn't list them in that post doesn't mean there aren't any. You choose not to listen to them. Aye. But realistically unless the public sentiment changes enough it's not going to happen anytime soon. No politician who ever realistically wants to be elected will breathe that point, and there's enough of the country that, while not necessarily bring royalists, is sort of ok with the monarchy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SouthCoastRed said: <stuff in response to a jackass> Most people have him on ignore for a reason. Edited September 13, 2022 by Ackter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, ginnybob said: There are plenty of good arguments for a Republic ffs. Just because BG didn't list them in that post doesn't mean there aren't any. You choose not to listen to them. I do listen to them....I was talking about generally not BG or you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: Aye. But realistically unless the public sentiment changes enough it's not going to happen anytime soon. No politician who ever realistically wants to be elected will breathe that point, and there's enough of the country that, while not necessarily bring royalists, is sort of ok with the monarchy Yeah, it's not something I expect in the near future. As with other things (reversal of Brexit for one) we're reliant on older generations dying off and the younger ones wanting change. We'll likely be onto William by that point. Edited September 13, 2022 by ginnybob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza D Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, profii said: next monday is a public holiday as per the government announcement therefore it is not part of your 25 day allowance and they need to let you have it off stand your ground, its not about the public living crisis, its about them honouring the legal contract they agreed to when they employed you. They shouldnt even be asking people to WFH. They have replied. "The annual leave entitlement is 25 days excluding Bank Holidays, contractually we have not stipulated the number of bank holidays or whether they are paid or not." Then some screenshot saying there's no legal entitlement to bank holidays off. "You don't actually have to grant employees bank holidays or public holidays as paid leave. There's no legal precedent that says these must be paid. As an employer, it is entirely up to you whether you choose to offer bank holidays as paid leave. Whatever you do choose, your employees' entitlement to paid leave should always be outlined in the employment contract." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oche balboa Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Plenty of people here who are Republicans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_advocates_of_republicanism_in_the_United_Kingdom#Individuals_(living)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, ginnybob said: Yeah, it's not something I expect in the near future. As with other things (reversal of Brexit for one) we're reliant on older generations dying off and the younger ones wanting change. We'll likely be onto William by that point. One of those that's probably a geographical and class split as well, young middle-class I know are very pro-monarchy for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said: Now I understand why you moved to Boston, you tea stealing inbred colonial scum. There isn’t a drop of pure German blood in your veins, you have no connection to Ze Glorious Third Reich, errrrr Royal Family Yeah no connections to the Third Reich. None at all. Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, bermybhoy said: Now there's a woman in Edinburgh who's "been round" 7 times. That's a lot of respect being paid. Did she get lost inside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Gazza D said: They have replied. "The annual leave entitlement is 25 days excluding Bank Holidays, contractually we have not stipulated the number of bank holidays or whether they are paid or not." Then some screenshot saying there's no legal entitlement to bank holidays off. "You don't actually have to grant employees bank holidays or public holidays as paid leave. There's no legal precedent that says these must be paid. As an employer, it is entirely up to you whether you choose to offer bank holidays as paid leave. Whatever you do choose, your employees' entitlement to paid leave should always be outlined in the employment contract." My mrs works at a doctors surgery 4 days a week all bank holidays come out of her holiday entitlement which is **** she has booked up all her holiday for the rest of the year, so if they close the surgery on Monday she could end up owing them time/money which is mental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 We're all getting a day added on to our annual leave allowance here despite not being contractually obligated to, which is nice. Complete luck of the draw though, and I'm luck to be working for a smaller company where that's quite straightforward for a director to decide straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Not 100% sure this is true, but the last set of stamps commissioned before her death, may well be this Transformers set https://shop.royalmail.com/special-stamp-issues/transformers?gclid=CjwKCAjw1ICZBhAzEiwAFfvFhLZMnanNJ_qf6kohCizftMdZWbWepFAynxtHGTp8WbOa4FHy3kjL1BoCrA4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Might have to get the framed one as a mark of respect/they look cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Whippy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 I'm off, as it's a bank holiday and stipulated in my contract. My wife is also off, even though it's her work day, so she's working to days next week. Annoying thing is, our daughter isn't in nursery on the Monday as they're closed, but they're still charging us. Throbbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
profii Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Gazza D said: They have replied. "The annual leave entitlement is 25 days excluding Bank Holidays, contractually we have not stipulated the number of bank holidays or whether they are paid or not." Then some screenshot saying there's no legal entitlement to bank holidays off. "You don't actually have to grant employees bank holidays or public holidays as paid leave. There's no legal precedent that says these must be paid. As an employer, it is entirely up to you whether you choose to offer bank holidays as paid leave. Whatever you do choose, your employees' entitlement to paid leave should always be outlined in the employment contract." the wording of your contract is annoyingly grey. You only get 25 days holiday, but you have probably already taken 3 or more bank holiday days off this year, meaning they have honoured their statutory obligation to provide you with at least 28 days. Your employers are some shady dudes, they are basically implying the rest of the bank holidays above and beyond 28 days statutory are some kind of favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted September 13, 2022 Author Share Posted September 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, Gazza D said: They have replied. "The annual leave entitlement is 25 days excluding Bank Holidays, contractually we have not stipulated the number of bank holidays or whether they are paid or not." Then some screenshot saying there's no legal entitlement to bank holidays off. "You don't actually have to grant employees bank holidays or public holidays as paid leave. There's no legal precedent that says these must be paid. As an employer, it is entirely up to you whether you choose to offer bank holidays as paid leave. Whatever you do choose, your employees' entitlement to paid leave should always be outlined in the employment contract." Then they should be allowing you the option to work. They've told you they're closing for the Bank Holiday. You're entitled to all bank holidays they recognise as additional leave per your contract. I'd get citizens advice on the blower tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Had dinner with the old folks last night and they had the BBC on the entire time (and have since the second the news of her being ill hit). If I hear the word “service” or “duty” one more time I might actually kill somebody. What a bunch of pompous nonsense. Edited September 13, 2022 by Weezer 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 13, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Weezer said: Had dinner with the old folks last night and they had the BBC on the entire time (and have since the second the news of her being ill hit). If I hear the word “service” or “duty” one more time I might actually kill somebody. What a bunch of pompous nonsense. Yep. Too many times I heard the story about how some American who met the Queen asked the Queen if she'd met the Queen up in Balmoral. And the news mostly just asking random people why are they in London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, Peter G said: Did she get lost inside? That would be better wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastRed Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, bermybhoy said: That would be better wouldn't it? It looks like the woman BBC breakfast interviewed really early this morning, if it is, she’s cuddling a teddy bear, and she’s taking the bear to see ‘another Bear lover’. I’ve been standing up for all of this pomp and circumstance all week, but by god, these people are barking 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Lucas Posted September 13, 2022 Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2022 Seen a few tears as well on the news, and that is something I really don't understand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) I'm not a royalist, but I can get and respect people are, with others simply interested in it for one reason or another. My only objection to it is so much of the country effectively going on hold, or other important matters pushed completely out the limelight, and therefore scrutiny. My last count on the BBC news homepage was no less than 18 articles/media relating to the queen, even matters on the Ukraine was forced off until a couple of days ago. Other stuff in the world is very much still going on, and not seeing anything about it is damning. Even working in an SG department, we all might as well be on holiday, as next to naff all is happening with Ministers and Parliament all off, and even when they have not been, it's monarchy matters only. Pretty much working in a stasis bubble right now, at least if they formally told us we're off, I could do useful things around the house, instead of sitting-by and hoping an e-mail or Teams message eventually comes in with something for me to do. Edited September 13, 2022 by Obi-Wan Kenobi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Lucas said: Yep. Too many times I heard the story about how some American who met the Queen asked the Queen if she'd met the Queen up in Balmoral. And the news mostly just asking random people why are they in London. It was all just inane rubbish. There’s not enough happening to justify 24 hour coverage and the only actual news was what is released as public statements anyway. Their coverage just seemed to be pictures of crowd scenes, wild speculation based on body language or the smallest of gestures and repeating endlessly what has already happened. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lucas said: Seen a few tears as well on the news, and that is something I really don't understand. It's not that strange, she was a nice old lady and she died. My mum said she shed a few tears and complained about the 24/7 coverage as if they didn't have anything more important to talk about Edited September 13, 2022 by enigmatic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Gazza D said: They have replied. "The annual leave entitlement is 25 days excluding Bank Holidays, contractually we have not stipulated the number of bank holidays or whether they are paid or not." Then some screenshot saying there's no legal entitlement to bank holidays off. "You don't actually have to grant employees bank holidays or public holidays as paid leave. There's no legal precedent that says these must be paid. As an employer, it is entirely up to you whether you choose to offer bank holidays as paid leave. Whatever you do choose, your employees' entitlement to paid leave should always be outlined in the employment contract." They need to give you the option to work then. If they are closing it then they are denying you the option to work. Which means they must either give you the bank holiday pay, or let you work and pay you. That's what I would reply. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 So much bad PR for so many companies. It's not even enforced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehFC Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) Preston fan banned for life by the club for tweets made about the Royal Family and the Queen. Edited September 13, 2022 by StevehFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 So Center Parcs are booting people out for a night then telling them they can come back the next day? Losing their collective minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Your companies have gone nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 It’s what she would have wanted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, ginnybob said: So Center Parcs are booting people out for a night then telling them they can come back the next day? Losing their collective minds. And not until 4pm on the Tuesday. Assuming they don't reverse this in any shape or form, be interesting to see what they'd do with people who simply refuse to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Surely isn’t legal for them to do this. Imagine they’ll lose loads in a lawsuit at some point or be forced to pay out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, Obi-Wan Kenobi said: And not until 4pm on the Tuesday. Assuming they don't reverse this in any shape or form, be interesting to see what they'd do with people who simply refuse to leave. Not like the police will have loads of spare units either… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, StevehFC said: Preston fan banned for life by the club for tweets made about the Royal Family and the Queen. That fan's tweets are a bit edgy but a lifetime ban for them is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said: Your country has gone nuts. Fixed that for you 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 https://www.thenational.scot/news/21378027.aberdeen-man-arrested-allegedly-spotted-carrying-eggs-near-queens-coffin/ A MAN has been arrested after he was allegedly seen carrying eggs as the Queen’s funeral cortege passed him. The 38-year-old man was charged with a breach of the peace after he was allegedly spotted with the potential projectiles near Duthie Park in Aberdeen on Sunday, as the Queen’s funeral procession travelled from Balmoral to Edinburgh. Police said he has been released on an undertaking and will appear before a court at a later date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carninho Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: https://www.thenational.scot/news/21378027.aberdeen-man-arrested-allegedly-spotted-carrying-eggs-near-queens-coffin/ A MAN has been arrested after he was allegedly seen carrying eggs as the Queen’s funeral cortege passed him. The 38-year-old man was charged with a breach of the peace after he was allegedly spotted with the potential projectiles near Duthie Park in Aberdeen on Sunday, as the Queen’s funeral procession travelled from Balmoral to Edinburgh. Police said he has been released on an undertaking and will appear before a court at a later date. I'm flabeggasted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 So no omelettes either the coming days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: I would be absolutely bloody fuming - lost their minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, m_fenton said: I would be absolutely bloody fuming - lost their minds. More like don't want to pay any of their staff bank holiday rates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 My mum has just turned this nonsense on and the commentator is already waffling. "People meet each other and they might be sharing grief. 'im sorry for your loss' they'll say to each other". 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Whaaa 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 People are going to starve. Jesus wept 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Charlie looks shattered on Sky News just now - not surprising, really. The brown-nosing of the royals from the media and companies/business does seem to be going into overdrive. It beggars belief and is almost reaching a North Korea level of fawning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InigoPatinkin Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Why don't we just cut out the middle man and bury a few of the people who can't afford to eat or people with cancer alive alongside the queen like they used to in ancient Egypt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InigoPatinkin Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 And there you go @oche balboa, if you need a good anti-monarchy argument you can just wait a few months and talk to the family of one of the dead people who missed their cancer appointment. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Whaaa Given it's a Bank holiday, they might have staffing issues given everything else is shutting down and the staff are volunteers. If it's a misplaced sense respect that's different entirely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehFC Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Coulthard's Jaw said: Whaaa Disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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