[FM22] Overhauling SAD Franchise, (completed) and now Portugal. (Portugese edition). (Youth Only)............... Maybe!

[Jimbokav1971]

Overhauling SAD Franchise. (Portugese edition).

We all know that it was completely ridiculous that MK Dons, (Milton Keynes Dons), were able to take the place of Wimbledon FC after their financial demise, (and if you don't know then you should know so shame on you!). MK Dons are often called MK Franchise or FC Franchise and most football fans are not particularly fond of them at all because of the way in which they were formed.

 

MK Dons were a completely new club and the old, (and particularly rich), history of Wimbledon FC was continued on by phoenix club AFC Wimbledon who were formed in 2002 and last season managed to move back to Plough Lane, (the former home of the old Wimbledon FC). After starting at the bottom of the English Football pyramid, AFC Wimbledon have fought back to League 1, (the same league as MK Dons), and although they finished last season below them in the league, have at various points sat above them in the league. 

What has this got to do with Portugal though you must be thinking?

Well let me tell you.....

Portugal is completely and utterly dominated by "the Big 3" of Porto, Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. One of the Big 3, (Os Tres Grandes) have been crowned Champions of each and every Primeira Liga since it's inception in 1934..... with 2 exceptions. 

Boavista somehow won the title in 2000/01, and the other occasion was CF Os Belenenses back in 1945/46, (presumably when there was some disruption in the aftermath of WWII). Boavista are far too big a club for me to manage, (despite my recent extremely enjoyable dalliance with Barca), and the situation is complicated with Belenenses. 

Unfortunately, Belenenses have suffered a torrid time in recent years and at the end of the 2017/18 season, after a complete breakdown in relations, the professional club, (knows as Belenenses SAD), split from the Football Club in acrimonious fashion. Belenenses SAD, (or SAD Franchise as they will now be known), were in dispute over the use of the Estadio do Restelo and were unable to broker a deal. The consequence of this is that SAD Franchise split from CF Os Belenenses with the former keeping the contracted players and the licence to play in the Primeira Liga, and the latter keeping the stadium, (Estadio do Restelo), the club name, and history, but were unfortunately relegated to the 6th tier of Portugese football as an amateur club. 

In real life CF Os Belenses start the 2021/22 season in the 4th Tier of Portugese football, but due to restructuring that's going on this season, a new 3rd tier will be introduced at the end of the 2021/22 season, so unless they are promoted from non-playable, they will effectively drop down to the 5th tier. As luck would have it, (here's one I prepared earlier Blue Peter stylee...), I have holidayed on a season and they have indeed been promoted from non-playable to the Portugal Championship, (which was the 3rd tier last season but is now the 4th tier this season).

I want to return to a full Youth Only save with this, but when we were promoted from non-playable in the FM21 test game, there were very few non-grey players in the squad. This meant that with me not signing anyone, the squad was ridiculously thin and it seemed just about impossible to avoid relegation, (with 4 from 12 going down as a result of the restructuring).  Add to this that most of the 1st intake, (after promotion), were only 15 years old, and it makes the 1st few seasons close to impossible with a Youth Only ideology. I ran it through a few times on holiday and each time it was the same. Relegation with not even a hint of survival. 

Some of you who have been around a long time might remember my failed attempt to do something similar at Regensburg in Germany,  (which was compounded by U18's not being allowed to play in league games in Germany), and there is no way I want to put myself through that again. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

Overhauling SAD Franchise. (Portugese edition).

With a repeat of the "Regensburg debacle" in the forefront of my mind, (my therapist says that I have progressed really well to be able to type the word Regensburg now), I had to come up with an alternative solution as to how best to start the save, but which would give me a realistic opportunity to get through the 1st few tough seasons while the 1st batch of youngsters from the 1st Youth Intake matured to a level where they could be competitive enough to avoid relegation. 

• My 1st plan was to micro-manage everything in that 1st season to absolutely squeeze the absolute most from the tiny squad in the hope that we might be able to somehow avoid relegation, but this doesn't sound like any sort of fun to me and this is meant to be fun isn't it?
• My 2nd plan involved going back on holiday and letting the Ass Man do what they want in terms of signing players , (but ask them to play to my tactic), and then return from holiday on the day of the 1st Youth Intake, and then see where we are at that point and see if we could survive moving forward, (with a presumably larger squad and a 1st batch of youngsters). 
• The 3rd plan is almost identical to the 2nd plan in that we go on holiday and return on the 1st Youth Intake day, but rather then just continuing on I would create a new manager at that point and start completely fresh at the club with a new profile on Youth Intake day. 

The 1st time I ran the simulation, (with FM21) we were relegated after signing 0 players and it became obvious we needed to tweak things a little. 
The 2nd time I ran the simulation, (with FM21), (allowing a DoF/Ass Man/whoever to sign players), we finished top of the league and were beaten by Sporting B in the Championship Semi-Final. As there are only 2 teams relegated from the Portugese 3rd Edition at the end of the 2020/21 season in FM21 it meant that we would stay in the 4th tier, (which is exactly what I wanted).

SAD Franchise, (you are damn right that's a thing now), now play their games at the Estadio Nacional, (where I once played rugby). It was the 1st stadium I had ever seen, where you come out of the changing rooms from below the pitch as if you are entering some sort of gladiatorial arena, and it had quite a big impact on me. It was amazing! I had never seen anything like it. 

Some of you might be asking where the SAD bit comes from in SAD Franchise, (or Belenenses SAD to be more polite). The truth is that there are actually quite a few Portugese companies with "SAD" after their name, and this simply relates to the fact that they are a Public Limited Sports Company, (Sociedade Anónima Desportiva), and the Portugese abbreviation for that is SAD. 

I've just been having a look at real life results and it would appear that somehow CF Os Belenenses are already in the 4th tier.  I really don't understand what's going on with this Portugese restructuring. They play in Group E of the Portugese Championship, (4th tier), and I "think" that will mean they be playable out of the box in FM22. If not then I will holiday until the 2nd Season, but I have a sneaking suspicion we will be all systems go right from the off. 

Although I'm saying that this is a "YOUTH ONLY" save, my definition of a Youth Only save is that we can re-sign players who came through the Academy here previously and moved on to other clubs. 

[corinthiano]

Will be great to follow your adventures in Portugal, definitely a really good backstory for the save! (Although I grew up in Milton Keynes, so have a different/biased opinion on that particular one )

[Jimbokav1971]

Overhauling SAD Franchise. (Portugese edition).

C.F. Os Belenenses are indeed playable from the off and are just known as Belenenses in the game, (rather than Belenenses SAD). We start in the 4th tier and SAD Franchise will start in the 1st tier. Sad Franchise do have a B Team, and they were playable in FM21, but I think their demotion and our sudden promotion when the Portugese season wasn't finished last season in real life, might be linked in some way. 

We don't have decent kits at the moment.

But we will have when the full game is released. 

We will even have a proper badge. 

The big question is.... how many players do we have and are they good enough to allow me to survive as manager until such time as the Youth Intake start coming of age? 

Senior Squad. 

U19 Squad. 

That's brilliant. I'm well chuffed. I was worried with what I had experienced with my FM21 trials, but this looks great. I couldn't be happier. 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

21 minutes ago, corinthiano said:

Will be great to follow your adventures in Portugal, definitely a really good backstory for the save! (Although I grew up in Milton Keynes, so have a different/biased opinion on that particular one )

If you are from MK and like football then it's great for you. It's brilliant! It's just rubbish for everyone else! 

Glad to have you along. 

[Punch]

Looking forward to seeing you turn that frown upside down

[Jimbokav1971]

Overhauling SAD Franchise. (Portugese edition).

It's going to be a really tough slog playing Youth Only on Portugal. I mean a REALLY tough slog. That being said, there are a few things in our favour. 

• There is no minimum age requirement for players in the Portugal Championship (tier 4), although I think even youngsters have to be registered and we can register 52 players, (which is a strange number). 

• I think it's fair to say that our Facilities are particularly decent, (but we're going to need them to be better than decent and we're also going to need to get our reputation up). Great Training Facilities, Great Youth Facilities, Good Academy Coaching and Good Youth Recruitment. (You see, there is some method in my madness!) 

• The expectations seem pretty modest, (or at least they start they way), but the game seems to get confused as to how many Tiers there are in Portugal in Season 4, and then while staying in Tier 3 in Season 4 is only 1/4 priority, getting promoted to Tier 1 in Season 5 is 4/4 priority. 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

30 minutes ago, Punch said:

Looking forward to seeing you turn that frown upside down

That's the plan. There will be many little achievements along the way that I will hopefully mark in some way. 

[withnail316]

Best of luck, Jimbo. 

[Jimbokav1971]

33 minutes ago, withnail316 said:

Best of luck, Jimbo. 

Cheers. I have a feeling Youth Only in Portugal is going to be a bit of a slog. 

[withnail316]

Just now, Jimbokav1971 said:

Cheers. I have a feeling Youth Only in Portugal is going to be a bit of a slog. 

Yeah, I'd imagine so. Would extending your parameters to allow you to sign released youth players from other Portuguese clubs be an option in future? That way you're still using youth players, but it gives you a few more options. 

[Jimbokav1971]

4 minutes ago, withnail316 said:

Yeah, I'd imagine so. Would extending your parameters to allow you to sign released youth players from other Portuguese clubs be an option in future? That way you're still using youth players, but it gives you a few more options. 

Possibly, (and never say never), but by re-signing players who have come through our Academy, (or been poached), and then moved on to somewhere else, I think I'm relaxing the rules enough. At the moment I think I'd rather play Youth Only and not become the biggest team in Portugal, than relax the rules and achieve it. 

I've got the option of buying players in other saves. I think I will probably keep this to Youth Only. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Pre-Season. Jul & Aug 2021. 

Friendlies. I'm trying not to read much into this, but at the very least we seem to be able to score goals. Right?

Rúben Araújo (POR) scored 5 goals in my 1st game and finished pre-season with 11 goals and 4 assists in 10 appearances. 

Finances. We start off in decent financial shape, but with such good facilities I expect our money to vanish pretty quickly. (At least that's what happened in the FM21 tests that I ran).

  

[Punch]

1 minute ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I'm trying not to read much into this, but at the very least we seem to be able to score goals. Right?

All about building combinations and confidence isn't it?

[Jimbokav1971]

1st competitive game in Portugal. Aug 2021. 

I think it's fair to say I enjoyed it. 

[Jimbokav1971]

23 minutes ago, Punch said:

All about building combinations and confidence isn't it?

To be honest I have always just assumed that it's largely fitness based. Yeah the confidence helps but I'm not very good at the start of seasons, (usually), so what the hell do I know. 

[Punch]

What a start!

 

11 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

To be honest I have always just assumed that it's largely fitness based. Yeah the confidence helps but I'm not very good at the start of seasons, (usually), so what the hell do I know.

Haha yep, there is that also. Plus the finances from home games can help a bit too.

[Jimbokav1971]

Aug & Sep 2021. 

PT Championship (Group E). At this stage it's hard to tell if we are decent or our opposition was really poor. The fact that they conceded 2 and 4 goals without reply in their other games suggest that they are not very good. We might still be decent though.  I should also add that Sp. Ideal had not 1 but 2 red cards against us and it was only 1-0 when they got each of their 2 reds so maybe that skewed the result a little. 

Clé (CPV) has scored the 1st goal in all of our competitive games so far so I thought I would let you have a look. 

PT Cup. There were no red cards for the opposition in this game and as they currently sit 2nd in the league above us there can be no claim that they are a weak opponent. We are decent! 

Records.

Goal-scoring Keepers. The very 1st goal in our very 1st league game, (just 2 minutes into the season), was a direct free-kick scored by Clé (CPV), (because I had forgotten to set my GK as our set-piece taker. Sure enough he spanked it in. Marcelo (BRA) had to wait until our 3rd game to get off the mark.  

Finances. Our cash is vanishing quickly.   

Edited October 22, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

Oct 2021.

PT Championship (Group E). We've played 5 league games and the opposition currently fill the bottom 5 places in the league. At this stage I don't know if they are at the bottom because we have beaten them or because they are not very good. I would expect the 3 teams directly below us to provide a sterner test. 

PT Cup. There is once again no question about the quality of our opposition as we beat a 2nd team from the league above. This was a tight affair all the way through. 

Facilities. After we won our 4th game in a row I decided I would chance my arm and try and get in for an early facility upgrade. In fact I managed 2 after a little persuasion. This should make a significant difference come intake time. 

Goal-scoring Keepers. 

Finances.    We've just gone slightly over the budget because the Ass Man of DoF or El Presidente, (or someone), has been re-negotiating player contracts. I was happy that he was doing it, but not at the expense of going over our budget. (It was on a 2nd tab so I has missed it). 

[Makoto Nakamura]

I don't think you could've asked for a much better start! 

[Sonic Youth]

Wait, FM22 beta is out already?

Thats a fun start there 

[Jimbokav1971]

1 hour ago, Makoto Nakamura said:

I don't think you could've asked for a much better start! 

Honestly, beyond my wildest dreams. 

[Jimbokav1971]

9 minutes ago, Sonic Youth said:

Wait, FM22 beta is out already?

Thats a fun start there 

Oh yes, it is here and at 1st glance the ME is looking rather special. 

[deltablue]

Our first FM22 thread!

[oskumustatuli]

This is interesting.. Been following your career updates for years and now Belenenses save! I've done CF OS Belenenses myself too in at least last two maybe three editions of FM and just before beta last night I guess I finished my FM21 Belenenses save in Primeira Liga third place late december 2027 after couple of seasons in top flight and positions for euro competitions..  I also managed my B team to lead Segunda Liga. I didnt have player signing restrictions, but it still aint easy to come top of the big three..(For me to say..) So in last versions of game i have to use (and wait) great FMportugal dbs, but now its easier get my Belem boys going, although I think it still aint going to be my first save in FM22. Good Luck for the journey!

[Jimbokav1971]

Nov 2021.

PT Championship. I thought our unbeaten run might be in jeopardy against Sacavenense who were in 2nd at the time. We were 1-1 at HT and down to 10 men, but we not only scored a winner, but Marcelo (BRA) made it 4/4 from the spot late on to flatter us. 

PT Cup. Marcelo (BRA) made it 3/3 from the spot as we sneaked into the 5th Round with the big boys, where we will play MRT, (who I assume are Maritimo). I really need to sort that real name fix. Can it be done after a save is started? I'm not sure it can. 

Records.

Goal-scoring GK's.

 

Transfers. All but 1 of these deals was done before my arrival. I certainly wouldn't have agreed to let 2 decent youngsters leave on a free to SAD Franchise.  Benny went on a free simply to try and get our wage budget down. I can't work out of the staff are still offering new contracts or if they are just slow coming through from before I changed the responsibilities. Either way we're over budget and I REALLY don't want to be over budget. I will look to sell/release more players between now and the end of the season, but I don't want to sell youngsters with decent potential, (obviously). 

Finances.    We're in the red and over our budget because the staff keep signing existing players to improved deals. I think I've stopped it now but old deals that were still in the pipeline from before the change still keep coming through. 

[Jimbokav1971]

6 minutes ago, deltablue said:

Our first FM22 thread!

And without a ridiculous long name too!  #Imposter

[Jimbokav1971]

3 minutes ago, oskumustatuli said:

This is interesting.. Been following your career updates for years and now Belenenses save! I've done CF OS Belenenses myself too in at least last two maybe three editions of FM and just before beta last night I guess I finished my FM21 Belenenses save in Primeira Liga third place late december 2027 after couple of seasons in top flight and positions for euro competitions..  I also managed my B team to lead Segunda Liga. I didnt have player signing restrictions, but it still aint easy to come top of the big three..(For me to say..) So in last versions of game i have to use (and wait) great FMportugal dbs, but now its easier get my Belem boys going, although I think it still aint going to be my first save in FM22. Good Luck for the journey!

Thank you very much. 

I completely agree it will not be easy. With my Youth Only restrictions I expect it's going to be ridiculously hard/impossible, but if it was easy then everyone would be doing it. Right? 

[Jimbokav1971]

New contracts being offered. Dec 2021. 

I didn't offer this deal. 

Staff - Responsibilities - Transfers and Contracts - Contracts. 

I was sure I changed this before. I even posted about it and yes, here is the picture posted earlier in the thread. 

I guess it's more likely to be me not pressing confirm than it being a bug.  

Here is the proof AFTER I have pressed "Confirm" and it's greyed out to prove it. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2021. 

This is a really interesting and much-improved page. 

You have to scroll down to get the 2nd part of the page, but the "intake distribution" graphic on the right hand side shows you, (I'm guessing), the preferred/best positions for the players coming through, (because they add up to 16 so players are only included in 1 position). 

I'd say that's a pretty decent spread. We don't use a DM or a AMC, (or AML/R for that matter), but an AML/R can be easily trained into a SC or ML/R most of the time so I'm not concerned at all. Only 2x DC's is a tiny bit concerning, but 1 of them looks "promising"

The AMC's could be anything and I will happily turn them into DLP's DLF's, strikers or wide players. No problem at all as long as they have ability. 

I used to joke that the preview bore absolutely no resemblance to the Youth Intake, so it will be interesting to see how this compares in terms of quality rather than numbers. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Dec 2021.

PT Championship. Furious. Absolutely furious!  After 9 league games unbeaten, (8 wins and a draw), I decide, (ridiculously), that I'm going to rotate the whole squad for the league game against bottom of the table Coruchense, (ahead of the Maritimo Cup game), and it backfires in spectacular fashion as we concede not 1 but 2 goals to Coruchense and despite battering them all game, somehow don't score ourselves and lose 2-0. 

The whole thing was completely ridiculous anyway because we were never in a million years going to get a result away to Maritimo of the 

PT Cup. We deservedly led at HT and just for a few moments FM22 had me dreaming, but a sept piece delivery to the back post drew them level and then they hit us on the counter for the winner. We really did deserve a draw. So near but yet so far. 

HoYD. As if that wasn't bad enough, Maritimo came back and nicked our HoYD the day after the Cup game.  So now we're approaching Youth Intake Day in a Youth Only save and we haven't got a HoYD. 

Goal-scoring GK. 

Finances.   

[Thebaker]

Since you have passed the youth preview, wont the HOY have already done his job and influenced the youth players. Not sure it will make a difference.

[Jimbokav1971]

3 minutes ago, Thebaker said:

Since you have passed the youth preview, wont the HOY have already done his job and influenced the youth players. Not sure it will make a difference.

I'm not really sure. I'm not suggesting that we wouldn't get one, (because I'm sure we would), but I just don;t know how it would effect the quality. I know that the Intake preview was about as much use as a chocolate teapot in FM21. Just don't know how it works in FM22 yet. 

[corinthiano]

Great start! Am assuming it will get tougher in the next stage - is it another league format or knockouts?

[Jimbokav1971]

5 minutes ago, corinthiano said:

Great start! Am assuming it will get tougher in the next stage - is it another league format or knockouts?

Honestly, I'm not really sure what with all the restructuring going on. Let me have a look. 

It's a promotion stage with 5 other teams. We play eachother twice, (so 10 games) and then the top 2 teams..... I think get promoted. 

[iamnobody]

I'm excited about you starting your youth only save.

I haven't fully decided on getting FM22 yet since Touch is not available for the PC.  If I stay with FM22 I may do an added country youth only save to see how much the dynamics can change.  I don't know...we'll see.

[Ceching You Out]

Now you’re really speaking my language and I won’t feel quite so guilty about sending you down rabbit holes with questions on youth development .

Tip you may already know - I’ve noticed, on FM21 at least, the staff member responsible for “Provides Youth Development Information” will act as HoYD for youth intake. Meaning personality, formation, etc. gets influenced by the person selected there. Really helpful when you don’t have a (good) HoYD.

[Jimbokav1971]

Jan 2022. 

PT Championship. This was a really good, consistent month where we were never in trouble. 

Records. We're on 41 goals now and we still have 3 games left to play. 

Goal-scoring GK. Unfortunately Marcelo (BRA) saw his 6th penalty saved so he is no longer on 100%. 

 

Transfers. Nobody has gone for any actual cash money yet, but I have sold players for £0 plus a friendly. 

Finances.   We're still over budget, but only very slightly, (£1,720). 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

2 hours ago, iamnobody said:

I'm excited about you starting your youth only save.

I haven't fully decided on getting FM22 yet since Touch is not available for the PC.  If I stay with FM22 I may do an added country youth only save to see how much the dynamics can change.  I don't know...we'll see.

From what I have seen so far, this FM22 is well worth upgrading from FM21 if you can afford it. 

[Jimbokav1971]

35 minutes ago, Ceching You Out said:

Now you’re really speaking my language and I won’t feel quite so guilty about sending you down rabbit holes with questions on youth development .

Tip you may already know - I’ve noticed, on FM21 at least, the staff member responsible for “Provides Youth Development Information” will act as HoYD for youth intake. Meaning personality, formation, etc. gets influenced by the person selected there. Really helpful when you don’t have a (good) HoYD.

Don't feel guilty at all. All of that stuff will be welcomed in here. 

Yeah I know who gets allocated the HoYD role stuff. We have either just signed a new one or are about to. 

He's joined already actually. There is nothing I like about him at all. I've never noticed "Tactical Style - Wing Play" before. Is that new? 

[Jimbokav1971]

Feb 2022. 

PT Championship. We're 14 points clear at the top of the table and while I might be tempted to start playing younger players, I don't know exactly what format the next "promotion league" phase will take. If I'm completely honest, I don't even know if the other 5 opposition teams will be made up from the top 6 here in this league, or from top 6 positions in other leagues at this level. Knowing my luck we will start from scratch and our 14 point gap will be all for nothing. 

Goal-scoring GK. Our GK's have now converted 7 penalties from 8 taken between them. 

Finances.   We're still over our wage budget, but now only by £282. I'm not sure will the Youth Contracts that we sign next month add to this or will they be off-set by something as happens in other Nations. 

Is this what I'm thinking of? 

I think it is. 

Now let me just check how much we're spending on Youth contracts right now? 

The above Youth contracts cumulatively come to £2,160, (I don't know what to do with the loan player before so let's just ignore him for the moment), and we're receiving a grant of £1,334 which is approx. 62% of the total Youth wages. That means that as soon as I start offering Youth Contracts we're going to soar over the wage budget again. 

While I want to remain under budget, there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that I am not offering some of the Youth Intake a contract. 

Malveira are paying £190pm for Fábio Serafim. (POR) and it says we're paying £47, but I don't know where the other £3 is coming from. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Youth Intake day. Mar 2022. 

The 1st thing I notice is that it no longer tells you which club the player originates from, so if you have poached a player, (can you still poach a player?) then you don't know who it is when they come through the intake.

The intake distribution appears to include players who already exist in the U19's squad. There are 16 in this intake and 26 on the graphic below so there should be 10 players in the U19 squad.... but there are actually 12, minus 1 who is out on loan = 11. How does 16 + 11 = 26?  I know this isn't a big deal but....... stuff like this needs to make sense to me for me to be ok with it and move on, but this doesn't make sense. 

• The 1st thing that jumps out at me from this page is obviously the 7x 5.0 PA players and the 3x 4.5 PA players. This really is a hell of an intake, (but I was expecting it to be decent, especially after I got a double upgrade so early in the save). 
• The 2nd thing that jumps out at me is the CA. As good as the PA is, the CA is bloomin amazing! 
• The 3rd thing that catches my eye is the Determination values. 18, 18, 17, 17, 19, 16, 20 & 17. WTH!  I've never seen that before. Why is it so high I wonder? 
• The 4th thing. Obviously not as good at the Det values, but the Workrate looks decent too. 14, 12, 13, 14, 15, 13, 11, 13, 12. I know they are yellow rather than green, but this is still good. This is still really good. 
• Lastly, (and obviously linked to Determination), personalities. Driven, Driven, Resolute, Determined, Determined.

I think I'm going to show you all the 5.0 PA players. 

I think that you will agree that just 1 of those players would have been brilliant. To get all of them together, (and the others aren't rubbish), has blown my mind. Of course I picked this club on purpose because of the good facilities. Of course I did. But I certainly wasn't expecting this!

[Jimbokav1971]

Reputation. Mar 2022. 

I haven't looked at our reputation yet and I wonder, (looking at the intake), if it's higher than I expected because of the previous history of the club. 

Top 26 clubs. 

27 - 52. 

So we're the 61st ranked Portugese club by reputation. 

Now this might seem low to you, but I still think this is high considering we were non-playable in FM21. 

There are 18 clubs in the 1st Tier in Portugal.
There are 18 clubs in the 2nd Tier in Portugal, (so that brings us to 32 clubs).
There are 24 clubs in the 3rd Tier in Portugal, (so that brings us to 56 clubs). 

We started in the 4th tier so all things being equal, we are approx the 5th highest ranked 4th Tier club. That seems high because we have just been promoted into it, but maybe our facilities and our history play a part in that.

None of that explains how we have managed to get such an intake though, unless our facilities are already higher than those in the top tier. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Portugese clubs facilities. Mar 2022. 

I suppose the sensible thing to do would be to go through at least the Top Tier Portugese clubs and have a look at their Youth Recruitment and Junior Coaching and compare it to our. 

Because this is the Beta rather than the full game I can't use the Editor to give us a value, but it will give us an approximation at least. 

Before I post the following, please note that I don't agree with everything the 3 quotes contain, but I trust them to have the levels accurate at least and that's what I intend on using them for. 

Now it all makes sense.    Excluding the "Big 3", we have the best facilities in the Country for producing youngsters. This save is going to be a LOT of fun. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Mar 2022. 

PT Championship. We finish our Group E campaign with just 1 loss, (when I rested all 10 1st choice outfield players), and 1 draw when we absolutely battered them. 

I didn't really know what to expect from the next stage but it appears that the top 2 teams in each Group move forward and are separated into 2 groups of 6 where everyone plays each other team twice meaning 10 more games. The top 2 get promoted from each league, which should mean that there are 4 teams relegated from the 3rd tier above, and that's correct as the bottom side in each of 4 "relegation Groups" gets relegated. 

Part of me thinks that this league would be perfect to stay in and blood youngsters, but the issue there is that we are haemorrhaging money and we need to get promoted asap even if we will ultimately find the league above much less to our liking. 

Records. 

Finances.   Before I saw the Youth Intake I was starting to get a little concerned about our finances. Now I'm not bothered in the slightest. Someone will just come in and pay us compensation for some of our middling players and although it will be a relatively small amount for them, it will be huge for us. That's even without us getting a proper big bid for our better youngsters. My only concern in this area is that El Presidente might get involved and accept some ridiculously low bids. Anyway, we will cross that bridge when we come to it. Where as I thought this might be an enormous slog, I'm now far more positive. 

[Peter G]

Enjoying your work as always.

 

Do the teams that fail to reach the promotion stage just end their season there?

[Jimbokav1971]

31 minutes ago, Peter G said:

Enjoying your work as always.

Do the teams that fail to reach the promotion stage just end their season there?

Thanks very much. 

Again, I don't know, (sorry), so let's have a look. 

We already know that the 2 teams that finish 1st and 2nd in each of the 6 leagues go through to a Promotion Stage and top 2 in each of these Groups is promoted to the 3rd Tier. 

The teams that finish 3rd to 10th go into 12 different groups, (yes really), 1 of which consists of 5 teams and the other 11 consist of 4 teams. Teams play eachother twice and then if you don't finish 1st or 2nd you're relegated, (which means that 25 clubs are relegated). This must be related to the restructuring that is going on in the Portugese pyramid at the moment because that's madness. I will keep an eye on it and see what happens next season. 

[Edit]

ps. I think that your new Management trio will do wonders for you. I'm a big fan of Darren Currie, (Barnet fan). 

Edited October 23, 2021 by Jimbokav1971

[Ceching You Out]

7 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Don't feel guilty at all. All of that stuff will be welcomed in here. 

Yeah I know who gets allocated the HoYD role stuff. We have either just signed a new one or are about to. 

He's joined already actually. There is nothing I like about him at all. I've never noticed "Tactical Style - Wing Play" before. Is that new? 

Crazy intake - I'm jealous! What was the thought process behind going with this guy who has a pretty mediocre personality?

"Tactical Style" is definitely in FM21. I've also seen Catenaccio, Gegenpress, Route One, Fluid Counter-Attack. I would guess it has an impact on the personality/attribute distribution of your youth but it might take some experimenting to tease out the relationships.

[Sonic Youth]

Nice youth intake!

It would be extremely interesting to see what a big club’s (eg Barcelona) youth intake with top facilities gets to compare this intake with your intake with a smaller club with top facilities 

Or someone shares an intake to compare the preview and intake.

Edited October 23, 2021 by Sonic Youth
Other Intake?

[Jimbokav1971]

3 hours ago, Ceching You Out said:

Crazy intake - I'm jealous! What was the thought process behind going with this guy who has a pretty mediocre personality?

"Tactical Style" is definitely in FM21. I've also seen Catenaccio, Gegenpress, Route One, Fluid Counter-Attack. I would guess it has an impact on the personality/attribute distribution of your youth but it might take some experimenting to tease out the relationships.

Intake is indeed cRaZy  

The thought process? 

I knew that "Tactical Style" was in previous versions. What I meant was that I had never seen "Wing Play" as a tactical style before.