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Please post any data issues related to any non-represented country in North America here. 

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues specific to North America should be reported in a new thread on the Bug Tracker (at that link). This would include issues such as the way continental competitions are working, league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.

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Also, squad rules for World Cup Qualifying seem off. 

Minimum squad size: 46

Maximum squad size: 50

No team in CONCACAF has called up nearly that many. It does say on the US Soccer website "While teams can travel with as many players as they choose, a total of 23 players can be included on a matchday roster" (https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2021/08/five-things-to-know-about-2022-world-cup-qualifying-in-concacaf --- toward the bottom of the page), it does say 46 have to be called in. 

Probably makes more sense for a minimum squad of 23 to be called in and a maximum of 50? 

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23 Year Old Argentinian RM, Malcon Pilone (Malcon Agustín Pilone), previously at Club Atlético Rosario Central, is not a Free Agent. He joined AD Guanacasteca on a Free Transfer, on September 1st, 2021. Also, several websites report that both his Common Name, and Full Name have a typo, and that it should actually be Malcom Pilone (Malcom Agustín Pilone).

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.com/malcom-pilone/profil/spieler/934746
https://www.hoyeneldeportecr.com/guanacasteca-empata-al-ultimo-minuto-ante-garabito-en-casa-2-2-2/

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25 Year Old Costa Rican LM, Malcom Frago, previously at Guadalupe FC, seems to not be a Free Agent. He signed for Puntarenas Fútbol Club S.A.D. on a Free Transfer, on July 1st, 2021.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.com/malcom-frago/profil/spieler/596314
https://www.facebook.com/PuntarenasFCOficial/posts/4559056817493009

24 Year Old CB / DM, Antonio Aguilar (Antonio Aguilar Jiménez), previously at CS Cartaginés, seems to not be a Free Agent and he has two transfers not registered. On July 1st, 2021, he transferred to Puntarenas Fútbol Club S.A.D. on a Free Transfer. On September 1st, 2021, he moved to his current club, CD Barrio México, also on a Free Transfer.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.com/antonio-aguilar/profil/spieler/606835

22 Year Old Costa Rican ST, Darryn Rojas, previously at Guadalupe FC, seems to not be a Free Agent. He signed for Municipal Santa Ana on a Free Transfer, on July 1st, 2021.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.com/darryn-rojas/profil/spieler/632387
https://www.flashscore.com/player/rojas-darryn/xMzUQg50/

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Cibao

  • Samuel Pérez (43599339) - his common name is set as Samuel Pérez.  Our usual standard for Latin American Spanish names is that the first name = Samuel, second name = Pérez and the full name would be Samuel Adolfo Pérez Mateo.  The setup in the DB is more how Brazilian/Portuguese names are set.  Note also, the accent on the E in the second name field is wrong
  • Carlos Ventura (43599504) - same issue as above
  • Assistant Manager Scheldeur Sanluis (82076470) is referred to as "Junior Scheldeur" on the official site https://www.cibaofc.com/staff/junior-scheldeur-2/.  Does he need a name change?
  • Jeffry Holgiuin (82080515) is listed as a DC in the DB but referred to as a DL on the Cibao website - https://www.cibaofc.com/jugadores/jefry-holguin/.  Could he also have a fixed PA now?
  • Lihue Prichodá is missing a 2020 history line.  Should be Academia Puerto Cabello 0/0.  He did play games but all pre-pandemic results were expunged.  External sites like soccerway unfortunately do not reflect this

As per the official website, the following players are missing from the first team:

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Atlético Pantoja

  • Mariano Tejeda (82085015) listed as U18 DT and has also been referenced in the past as assistant manager (from 2018).  He looks to have joined on 27/9/2020
  • David González (82086606) - naming convention as discussed above.  Based on the pre-match graphics on the Pantoja instagram page, his preferred formation is 4-1-2-2-1 DM Wide (aka 4-3-3)
  • Yorensin Noesi (82076380) joined 29/7/21 - currently contracted to Atlético de San Francisco
  • Kendry Tejada (14246763) joined 29/7/21 - currently contracted to Atlético San Cristóbal
  • Tulio Etchemaite (14006037) joined 29/7/2021.  Currently in Panama DB contracted to Veraguas Leones de America
  • Carlos Rossell (82080538) is listed as playing at DL on lineup graphics - could do with a positional rating for there (I don't know if he is primarily a defender or midfielder though)
  • Ernesto Trinidad (82076441) is a right sided defender not a left back
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Universidad O&M

  • Daniel Jamesley (82083306) is on loan at Association Sportive Capoise in the DB.  I'm not sure if this actually happened in reality - he was playing with O&M in the 2020 and 2021 LDF
  • Rufino Sotolongo (2000088507) was contracted as Manager on 21/3/21.  He's currently a free agent in Cuba (with a job as a player).  Based on the pre-match graphics on the O&M instagram page, his preferred formation is the 433/41221DM formation
  • Roger Davis (82086598) was born in Caracas.  It would be worth ticking the newgen use denied options for his name as they aren't typically Venezuelan
  • Willy Subdiaga (82082324) was born in Mérida (Venezuela).  He is missing some history - on 13/4/2018 he joined Atlético Vega Real as a fitness coach (not sure when he left).  He was also at the same club from 19/1/2016-5/7/2016 and then at Llaneros de Guanare from 13/8/15-15/3/17.  Apologies, links are dead but he was working with Pástor Márquez and I've taken the dates from his tenure.  He joined O&M on 6/1/2019
  • Shedlin Francoeur (82050212) is referred to as Chedlin on the O&M graphics.  Cerocero/ogol list his DOB as being 1998 - are these actually different players?
  • Wilmota (82082312) is listed as "Modesta" on the pre-match graphics - not sure if he needs a common name set in this case?
  • Harold Sanon (82083292) is listed as playing at DC on the pre-match graphics a lot - he could probably do with a rating there
  • Arichel Hernández (82086605) is referred to as Aricheell Hernández by the club
  • Jorge Emilio de Jesús Rodríguez (82087980) should have his name updated as per standard conventions (see 2 posts above) - he is referred to as Jorge De Jesús by the club
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Moca FC

  • Wuiswell Isea (5300024) was named interim manager on 31/8/21 and full time manager on 2/9/2021.  He seems to have left Atlético San Francisco on 25/6/21
  • Edward Acevedo left on 31/8/21
  • GK Robinson Robert is missing - DOB 30/4/2004
  • Should Atlético de San Cristobal be added as a rivalry? Moca lists their match as "Clásico de futbol Dominicano"
  • Uruguayan midfielder Alejandro Gíl is missing - AMC (20), MC (15).  Looks like he got a 10 game suspension this season
  • Daniel Padilla (76039154) - signed on 22/5/21.  Currently in the DB contracted to a Georgian team
  • Goalkeeper José Miguel Navarro González is missing - couldn't find him in the DB.  A bit of detective work leads me to believe his DOB is 14/9/1993.  He signed on 24/5/2021.  Looks like he previously played for Delfines de Este and Barcelona
  • On 19/8/2021 they signed Colombian midfielder Jannenson Sarmiento.  According to this, his DOB is 18/10/1999, he is left footed.  I would guess his position is AMC (20)/MC (15) but check with  @makul who will probably be able to find more information for you
  • Winder Mendoza (82083287) joined from Delfines del Este on 30/7/2021

Delfines del Este

  • David de Jesús is missing.  According to transfermarkt he is a right back.  He signed a new contract on 16/2/2021 and should have the shirt name "Dave"
  • Carlos Heredia (29192706) joined Cibao on 27/8/2021

 

HR Honduras

Mateo Cardona (76037217) at CD Real Sociedad has an error in his history line.  His 2020 history with Delfines del Este should be 2021 (year order 1)

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There's a player from Barbados who is a duplicate: Mario Williams (2000091686 and 82086123). The one with the 82086123 ID has his name written wrong (Wiilliams).

 

2000091686 should be removed and 82086123 should get his name corrected.

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I bought this up in the feedback thread but got no reply so thought I'd post it here.

In my save I noticed that Luton Town have a new manager that seems to have appeared out of nowhere from Jamaica. The name is Donovan Duckie.

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I'd never heard of him so I looked him up on Google. I found nothing to suggest he's well known outside of Jamaica or that he's this good.

I'm not saying he can't be. I just found it odd that he appeared out of nowhere in the CH. I realise clubs in FM might pull out a signing out of nowhere that wouldn't happen in real life. I love the name and it's a fun little aside in my career write up.

So, is he really this good or is this an input error in the database?

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Andres Andrade (Bielefeld) should have 9 caps 0 goals for Panama as of the start of the season instead of one: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/72595/Andres_Andrade.html

Oscar Duarte's (Levante) international appearances weren't updated after last season, he should have 58 caps 2 goals for Costa Rica:  https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/40685/Oscar_Duarte.html

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Jeppe Simonsen (27109702) of SonderjyskE should have 4 caps for Haiti: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/82809/Jeppe_Simonsen.html

Instead these caps seem to have been added to the profile of Jeppe Simonsen (27163569) of lower league club Svelbolle.

Bryan Oviedo (Kobenhavn) caps for last seasons weren't added, he should have 60 at the start of this season: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/35752/Bryan_Oviedo.html

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The birth date of Clifford Thomas from Arcahaie FC is wrong. It must be 09.10.1998 instead of 10.09.1998  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/cliford-thomas/profil/spieler/747529 https://de.soccerway.com/players/clifford-thomas/676773/

The birth date of Frantz Piton from Arcahaie FC is wrong. It must be 03.08.1997 instead of 08.03.1997  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/frantz-piton/profil/spieler/747535 https://de.soccerway.com/players/frantz-piton/676798/

 

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Haiti:

Please verify the foundation year of Don Bosco FC. I guess it should be 1963

Please verify the foundation year of FICA. I guess it should be 1972

 

Dominica:

The city name for Harlem United(91148280) should be maybe changed to Newtown

The city name for Mahaut Soca Strikers(1021538) should be maybe changed to Mahaut

The city name for Middleham United(23243641) should be maybe changed to Cochrane

The city name for Sagicor South East FC(91156943) should be maybe changed to La Plaine

 

Belize:

It should be checked if Najib Guerra - 2000019058 and  Nahjib Guerra - 82050075 are the same person

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Giancarlo Moreno (2000014772) and Giancarlos Moreno (2000058708) are the same person.

The correct one would be the second one. He is in the correct position and he is got the name correctly.

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Re: Santiago San Martin [2000061286] - Union Deportivo Universitario

  • Please can you correct his middle name? Should be Raúl (with the accent over the u)
  • His actual position should be DC (20) DR (15) DM (12) MC (10)
  • Height = 1.82 m
  • Weight = 80 kg
  • He appears to have left Unión at the end of 2021 and is now a free agent
  • According to this promotional video he has a more extensive career history.  I cannot find any records for goals/games in these other clubs
  • Can you review his CA? At 94, he is the second highest rated player at Unión but he has only played 13 matches in the past 5 years.  This seems somewhat inflated - should it be around 74 instead?
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It should be checked if Mario Williams - 82086123 and Mario Williams - 2000091686 are the same person

Folliwing teams should be added as they play in the first league of their country

 Caesar Ridge FC FFB Top League Tournament 2021/22   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_Ridge_FC
Garden City FC FFB Top League Tournament 2021/22   https://de.soccerway.com/teams/belize/garden-city/56775/
Puerto Rico Sol FC Liga Puerto Rico   https://www.puertoricosol.com/
Guaynabo Gol SC Liga Puerto Rico  

https://www.transfermarkt.de/guaynabo-gol-sc/startseite/verein/72890

 

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On 08/12/2021 at 16:16, anagain said:

I bought this up in the feedback thread but got no reply so thought I'd post it here.

In my save I noticed that Luton Town have a new manager that seems to have appeared out of nowhere from Jamaica. The name is Donovan Duckie.

image.thumb.png.ecc596ddd95b11e61c4a77008affae71.png

I'd never heard of him so I looked him up on Google. I found nothing to suggest he's well known outside of Jamaica or that he's this good.

I'm not saying he can't be. I just found it odd that he appeared out of nowhere in the CH. I realise clubs in FM might pull out a signing out of nowhere that wouldn't happen in real life. I love the name and it's a fun little aside in my career write up.

So, is he really this good or is this an input error in the database?

His World Rep was set way too high, so I have reduced it. Thanks for the info.

Have updated this thread to here for the final update with all relevant changes.

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Daniel Jamesley (Univ O&M) [82083306]

  • Place of birth should be Delmas [82081508]
  • Missing international debut = 25/3/21
  • Missing international goals = 0 (national-football-teams.com/player/81981/Daniel_Jamesley.html)
  • Missing 2020 History with Universidad O&M - 6 matches, 4 goals (8 and 7 if play-offs and finals are included) (https://www.futboltotalrd.com/player/daniel-jamesley/)
  • Missing 2021 History with Universidad O&M - 17 matches, 11 goals
  • The Grenada FA lists his height as 1.74 m, weight as 70 kg and right footed
  • N.B. I note conflicting DOB's but 19/10/06 as set in the DB is indeed correct.

On a slightly more subjective note, I see that he is consistently amongst the top scorers in the LDF in real life - could his CA 71 be bumped up to take this into account?

 

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Azuero Herrera [80030074]

  • Changed name in 2019 to Herrera Fútbol Club
  • Remove short name of Azuero, change to Herrera
  • missing based city - should be Chitre [8825739]
  • Missing stadium - Estadio los milagros de Chitre (needs to be created)
  • Colours should be yellow and blue - https://www.instagram.com/herrerafc_/?hl=en
  • Nicknames are missing - "La Berraquera" and "Los Tiburones"

Potros del Este

Unión Deportivo Universitario [80033814]

Veraguas Leones de America [80024197]

  • As of 3/2/2022, this club is now "Veraguas United Fútbol Club" - It would be good to set this up as a previous name for the new club
  • Nickname = Los Indios de Urracá
  • Colours should be blue and white - https://www.instagram.com/veraguasunited/
  • Based city should be Santiago de Veraguas - apologies, cannot see if in the database

Chorrillo [5365003]

  • Mark as extinct, they are now CD Universitario.  Set this up as a previous name club

 

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Deportivo Municipal San Miguelito [80028100] should be marked as extinct.  They merged with Sporting San Miguelito in 2018

Club Altetico Chiriqui [308266]

  • There is a typo in the name - should be "Atlético"

 

Tilson Vivas [86018219] - Plaza Amador

  • Joined Atlético Chiriqui on 31/5/21 as GK Coach
  • NP History as follows
    • Sporting San Miguelito 1/7/2019 - 23/12/20 (GK Coach)
    • Alianza 17/12/2018 - ?? (GK Coach)
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Charles Martínez [86048989]

Full Name = Charles Williams Martínez Viscaya
Height = 1.79 m
Weight = 80 kg

History

2020 (order 2) Sanarate is missing joined date of 6/2/21

2020 (order 1)  Plataneros [2000064605] - joined 11/08/2020

2019 (order 2) Quiche [87041994] - joined 03/01/2020

2019 (order 1) Marquense [5395180]

2018 Marquense [5395180] - joined 20/7/2018

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Concacaf announce the criteria for Concacaf champions league and new competitions, it would be nice if you see this in the next FM.

https://www.concacaf.com/en/champions-league/news/concacaf-announces-qualification-criteria-for-confederation-s-expanded-champions-league-starting-in-2024/

I don't know if it's the right place for this suggestion but something could be done so that the club concacaf competitions and the MLS, when the player starts in future years don't simulate past results, for example when the correction patches come out some leagues have a date for start in 22 and no longer simulate results of 21 being possible to add history, in MLS and concacaf competitions this is not possible, it would be nice if it was from FM 23.

Thanks.

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