Jump to content

[Spain] Data Issues


Ed Hewison
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • SI Staff

Please post any data issues related to Spain here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

·        State what you think the data should be.                            

·        State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.                         

Please note that any non-data issues specific to Spain should be reported in a new thread on the Bug Tracker (at that link). This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Replies 285
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Atletico Madrid:

Rodrigo De Paul still got his Udinese salary, earns reportedly 3 million euros net per year. Source: https://www.sportworldnews.org/soccer/news/4689/de-paul-will-sign-a-contract-with-atletico-madrid/

Real Madrid:

Eduardo Camavinga still got his Rennes salary, earns reportedly 4 million euros net per year. Source: https://remonews.com/franceeng/camavingas-salary-to-real-has-been-revealed/

Edited by bajenroma
Link to post
Share on other sites

Barcelona

Ansu Fati:

Recently accepted a 6 year deal (30 June 2027) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2298544/ansu-fati-culer-until-2027/featured

 

Pedri:

Recently accepted a 5 year deal (30 June 2026) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2288606/pedri-contract-extension-to-2026

Link to post
Share on other sites

About Real Oviedo ( second division) :

- The name is "Real Oviedo" , no  "Oviedo"

- The second team is called " Real Oviedo Vetusta" , no "Oviedo b" https://www.realoviedo.es/noticia/el-real-oviedo-b-recupera-la-denominacion-federativa-de-vetusta#:~:text=El segundo equipo de la,conocen todos los aficionados oviedistas
 

- Juan Mata must be an Icon 

-Members 15.000 https://www.elcomercio.es/real-oviedo/cerca-15000-abonados-20211015000709-ntvo.html

Edited by ostkiz
Link to post
Share on other sites

  • SI Staff
26 minutes ago, Rossums said:

Barcelona

Ansu Fati:

Recently accepted a 6 year deal (30 June 2027) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2298544/ansu-fati-culer-until-2027/featured

 

Pedri:

Recently accepted a 5 year deal (30 June 2026) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2288606/pedri-contract-extension-to-2026

Cheers for this! These have both been added and both contracts were signed after we'd locked the database, to allow checks to be run on it. They just missed the cutoff.

I can see both players have the release clause in our database and that will be fixed for release.

We also wanted to make sure the figure wasn't too big to mess anything up in the contract page, but then I remembered that we already added this for Karim Benzema a while back. :D 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Real Madrid are currently in the middle of their stadium expansion and whilst i haven't got to December 2022 when its scheduled to be finished, there's no mention of this at the start of the game or within club facilities.

New stadium will have increased capacity, roof, and reportedly generate an extra €150m euros in revenue a year.

Link to post
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, ostkiz said:

About Real Oviedo ( second division) :

- The name is "Real Oviedo" , no  "Oviedo"

- The second team is called " Real Oviedo Vetusta" , no "Oviedo b" https://www.realoviedo.es/noticia/el-real-oviedo-b-recupera-la-denominacion-federativa-de-vetusta#:~:text=El segundo equipo de la,conocen todos los aficionados oviedistas
 

- Juan Mata must be an Icon 

-Members 15.000 https://www.elcomercio.es/real-oviedo/cerca-15000-abonados-20211015000709-ntvo.html

- We can't use licensed names for clubs.

- Juan Mata hasn't played a single game for Oviedo first team, We don't see any reason to add him as an Icon for a club where he only played at youth levels. He has Oviedo as preferred club at maximum rating, which seem more than right.

- Membership for clubs was updated after beta data lock, so it will be right for game launch.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 1 hora, Zoiberg dijo:

- We can't use licensed names for clubs.

- Juan Mata hasn't played a single game for Oviedo first team, We don't see any reason to add him as an Icon for a club where he only played at youth levels. He has Oviedo as preferred club at maximum rating, which seem more than right.

- Membership for clubs was updated after beta data lock, so it will be right for game launch.

 

So Cazorla is the same case as Mata and is an icon, he only played at youth levels. Remove it or add Mata , but have just one of them have no sense.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Valencia CF needs to update their employees. It's impossible they only have one scout for the first team.

The buy option of Alderete is obligatory if the club qualifies for European Competitions, I don't know if you can put that condition.

Also, a little detail that doesn't change too much the game but Patricia Rodríguez is GM of Granada https://www.granadacf.es/noticia/patricia-rodriguez-nueva-directora-general-del-club

Link to post
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, acceptz said:

 Federico Valverde 's pa  168.

Frenkie de Jong's pa 183.

It's definitely not reasonable, Valverde's pa should be the same as de Jong's.

As per the opening post:

State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.      

The Spanish researcher is not going to make a large change like that just because in your opinion it's too low. What has Valverde done to deserve a PA that high? Or is De Jong's too high? 

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 32 minutos, metal_guitarist dijo:

  The Spanish researcher is not going to make a large change like that just because in your opinion it's too low. What has Valverde done to deserve a PA that high? Or is De Jong's too high? 

I would dare to say the Spanish researcher is not going to make a large change like that, period xD.

Link to post
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, Rossums said:

Barcelona

Ansu Fati:

Recently accepted a 6 year deal (30 June 2027) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2298544/ansu-fati-culer-until-2027/featured

 

Pedri:

Recently accepted a 5 year deal (30 June 2026) with Barcelona with a 1bn Euro buyout clause.

Source: https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/football/first-team/news/2288606/pedri-contract-extension-to-2026

I think both deals were signed after the data lock

Link to post
Share on other sites

Djené Dakonam (Getafe CF): his natural position is Central Defense (DF (C)). In the game, for many years, he appears as a right back as the main position.

It is true that in many moments of his career, Djené has played games in various positions, including right-back or defensive midfielder, but without a doubt, his natural position is Central Defense.

Also, you can see this in the following link:

 

https://www.transfermarkt.es/djene/profil/spieler/221150

 

Thank you,!!

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 小时前, metal_guitarist说:

As per the opening post:

State reasons/proof for your suggested corrections/improvements.      

The Spanish researcher is not going to make a large change like that just because in your opinion it's too low. What has Valverde done to deserve a PA that high? Or is De Jong's too high? 

Okay.

Federico Valverde became a key player this season under Ancelotti's coach.

He is the key player of real madrid this season.

He took the place of Isco in the starting 11. 

He is only 23 years old, and again he is young and key player of real madrid!!!

And Isco's pa is 180.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 2 horas, jose.catalaripoll dijo:

In Levante, Alejandro Cerdá is missing.
https://www.transfermarkt.es/alex-cerda/profil/spieler/668314

The youth team is practically empty, being one of the best youth teams in Spain.
https://www.lasprovincias.es/levanteud/sello-mejor-juvenil-20210612204220-nt.html

He is in, not in beta as was created after beta DB closing. The same as other Levante youth players like Carlos Jiménez, Alejandro Primo, Rubén Catalá, David Sellés, Joan Gallego, Xavi Grande or José Cambra

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 3 horas, Horcajada dijo:

Djené Dakonam (Getafe CF): his natural position is Central Defense (DF (C)). In the game, for many years, he appears as a right back as the main position.

It is true that in many moments of his career, Djené has played games in various positions, including right-back or defensive midfielder, but without a doubt, his natural position is Central Defense.

Also, you can see this in the following link:

 

https://www.transfermarkt.es/djene/profil/spieler/221150

 

Thank you,!!

You have already posted this in FMSite, please don't report the same thing twice.

Choose one forum or the other, this way it will be easier for us, thank you.

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 3 horas, acceptz dijo:

Okay.

Federico Valverde became a key player this season under Ancelotti's coach.

He is the key player of real madrid this season.

He took the place of Isco in the starting 11. 

He is only 23 years old, and again he is young and key player of real madrid!!!

And Isco's pa is 180.

 

If you think Valverde is the key player of Madrid this season, I'm afraid you haven't seen many games xD.

Anyway, and regardless of Isco's PA, I think he's accuratedly depicted in the game as he is right now. Let's see his performances from here to the winter window and we will reevaluate it if neccesary.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, che1989 said:

Valencia CF needs to update their employees. It's impossible they only have one scout for the first team.

The buy option of Alderete is obligatory if the club qualifies for European Competitions, I don't know if you can put that condition.

Also, a little detail that doesn't change too much the game but Patricia Rodríguez is GM of Granada https://www.granadacf.es/noticia/patricia-rodriguez-nueva-directora-general-del-club

Thanks, will look at it

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, Horcajada said:

Djené Dakonam (Getafe CF): his natural position is Central Defense (DF (C)). In the game, for many years, he appears as a right back as the main position.

It is true that in many moments of his career, Djené has played games in various positions, including right-back or defensive midfielder, but without a doubt, his natural position is Central Defense.

Also, you can see this in the following link:

 

https://www.transfermarkt.es/djene/profil/spieler/221150

 

Thank you,!!

We've already told you in the spanish forums,  he is 20 at CB, and 18 at DR, so his main position is CenterBack.

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, acceptz said:

Okay.

Federico Valverde became a key player this season under Ancelotti's coach.

He is the key player of real madrid this season.

He took the place of Isco in the starting 11. 

He is only 23 years old, and again he is young and key player of real madrid!!!

And Isco's pa is 180.

 

PA's have been carefully assesed, and what you're pointing out it's a subjective point of view, not objective data.

Obviously, you have all the right to disagree.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hello! Some changes in Real Madrid.
1. Manu Fernandez is more Head of youth.
Real Madrid - La Liga: Manu Fernandez: The football engineer charged with running Real Madrid's academy | MARCA in English
2. Missing Jose Angel Sanchez is one of the most important people in real madrid. Transfers, negotiations and more ( Maybe hi is unofficial sport director or technical director)
Jose Angel Sanchez: A Journey from Segovia, Sega, to the Real Madrid Boardroom - Managing Madrid
3. Javier Mallo not in club anymore 
Plantilla de Jugadores del Real Madrid | Real Madrid CF
4. Abian Perdomo will continue the 2021 - 2022 season, as head of training and methodology of the Real Madrid academy.
The Tenerife Native Abián Perdomo will continue as head of training and methodology of Real Madrid | Radio Club Tenerife | | News SER Chain (cadenaser.com)
5. According to the colleagues of the Diario AS, the recruiter Andrés Pardo, from Villareal and one of the best scouts nationwide, will also join the white project.
The Tenerife Native Abián Perdomo will continue as head of training and methodology of Real Madrid | Radio Club Tenerife | | News SER Chain (cadenaser.com)
6. Juni Calafat, in direct dependence on the Director General, will continue to exercise his responsibilities as Chief
Scout.
Official Statement | Real Madrid CF
7. Real Madrid B staff Taking their places alongside Raúl in the coaching staff are Alberto Garrido, who will act as assistant coach; Nacho Sancho, who will oversee the team's fitness; Mario Soria, who will coach the goalkeepers; whilst Víctor Paredes will act as rehabilitator and Alain Sola will be the performance analyst.
Castilla get 2021/22 season up and running | Real Madrid CF
8. Real Madrid u-19 staff
Al término de las presentaciones, Hernán Pérez dirigió su primer entrenamiento como técnico del Juvenil A. Tendrá a su lado a Sergio López en la labor de segundo entrenador. Rubén Cipriano ejercerá de preparador físico y Miguel Ángel González se encargará de la preparación de los porteros.
El Juvenil A comienza a preparar la temporada 2021/22 | Real Madrid CF
9. Real Madrid Juvenil B staff
Fran Beltrán, que dirigió su primera sesión de entrenamiento al término de las presentaciones, se estrenará esta temporada en el banquillo del Juvenil B, acompañado por Eduardo Díaz-Crespo, como segundo entrenador, y Alberto Isla, en la función de preparador físico. Sergio Gómez será el encargado de preparación de los porteros.
Primer entrenamiento de la pretemporada del Juvenil B | Real Madrid CF

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, frog-kvfb said:

I noticed earlier pique was still on high wages even after taking a pay cut

Pique took a salary by 50% cut 

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/barcelona-espbarcelona/story/4455524/piques-presidential-poise-helps-barcelona-on-and-off-the-pitch-why-he-gave-up-50-percent-of-his-salary

Sergio Busquets and Jordi Alba have also both taken big salary reductions also

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/barca-register-aguero-after-busquets-alba-agree-pay-cuts-2021-08-31/

Edited by Johan 14 Cruyff
Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 4 horas, Varp dijo:

Hello! Some changes in Real Madrid.
1. Manu Fernandez is more Head of youth.
Real Madrid - La Liga: Manu Fernandez: The football engineer charged with running Real Madrid's academy | MARCA in English
2. Missing Jose Angel Sanchez is one of the most important people in real madrid. Transfers, negotiations and more ( Maybe hi is unofficial sport director or technical director)
Jose Angel Sanchez: A Journey from Segovia, Sega, to the Real Madrid Boardroom - Managing Madrid
3. Javier Mallo not in club anymore 
Plantilla de Jugadores del Real Madrid | Real Madrid CF
4. Abian Perdomo will continue the 2021 - 2022 season, as head of training and methodology of the Real Madrid academy.
The Tenerife Native Abián Perdomo will continue as head of training and methodology of Real Madrid | Radio Club Tenerife | | News SER Chain (cadenaser.com)
5. According to the colleagues of the Diario AS, the recruiter Andrés Pardo, from Villareal and one of the best scouts nationwide, will also join the white project.
The Tenerife Native Abián Perdomo will continue as head of training and methodology of Real Madrid | Radio Club Tenerife | | News SER Chain (cadenaser.com)
6. Juni Calafat, in direct dependence on the Director General, will continue to exercise his responsibilities as Chief
Scout.
Official Statement | Real Madrid CF
7. Real Madrid B staff Taking their places alongside Raúl in the coaching staff are Alberto Garrido, who will act as assistant coach; Nacho Sancho, who will oversee the team's fitness; Mario Soria, who will coach the goalkeepers; whilst Víctor Paredes will act as rehabilitator and Alain Sola will be the performance analyst.
Castilla get 2021/22 season up and running | Real Madrid CF
8. Real Madrid u-19 staff
Al término de las presentaciones, Hernán Pérez dirigió su primer entrenamiento como técnico del Juvenil A. Tendrá a su lado a Sergio López en la labor de segundo entrenador. Rubén Cipriano ejercerá de preparador físico y Miguel Ángel González se encargará de la preparación de los porteros.
El Juvenil A comienza a preparar la temporada 2021/22 | Real Madrid CF
9. Real Madrid Juvenil B staff
Fran Beltrán, que dirigió su primera sesión de entrenamiento al término de las presentaciones, se estrenará esta temporada en el banquillo del Juvenil B, acompañado por Eduardo Díaz-Crespo, como segundo entrenador, y Alberto Isla, en la función de preparador físico. Sergio Gómez será el encargado de preparación de los porteros.
Primer entrenamiento de la pretemporada del Juvenil B | Real Madrid CF

Thank you for the info, we'll review Madrid's staff.

Link to post
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Johan 14 Cruyff said:

Great job I wasn't fully sure on the % of pay cut

Link to post
Share on other sites

Greetings, I saw some mistakes on Celta Vigo's (Vigo in game) 2nd and 3rd teams. Here I let you all the changes that should be made, hoping that they will be!

Thanks for reading, I hope this will be fixed soon because they are several mistakes. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

20 小时前, Zinegod说:

If you think Valverde is the key player of Madrid this season, I'm afraid you haven't seen many games xD.

Anyway, and regardless of Isco's PA, I think he's accuratedly depicted in the game as he is right now. Let's see his performances from here to the winter window and we will reevaluate it if neccesary.

 

So, let's the data talks.

He ranked 4th order by playing time this season.

image.png.7a74b735a969b3dbddfc0c6ecf68c56b.png

Link to post
Share on other sites

17 小时前, Zoiberg说:

PA's have been carefully assesed, and what you're pointing out it's a subjective point of view, not objective data.

Obviously, you have all the right to disagree.

Why did young players from Barcelona got higher PA than young players from Real Madrid?

Especially barcelona played so bad this season, Is it subjective or objective?

 

Ansu Fati, Yusuf Demir  -95, Gavi -9, Pedri  175,  Frenkie 185, Ronald Araújo 173

Camavinga -10, Vinicius 172, Miguel Gutiérrez 165, Valverde  168,  Militao  166,  Rodrgo  165

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 17 minutos, acceptz dijo:

So, let's the data talks.

He ranked 4th order by playing time this season.

image.png.7a74b735a969b3dbddfc0c6ecf68c56b.png

Then, according to your data, the key player of Real Madrid is Eder Militao. That's good to know.

 

And about the PA of young players of Barcelona and Madrid, they're independent values, the PA of Barcelona's players doesn't influence the PA of the Madrid ones.

Of course, their values are subjective, like the values of all the others players in the database.

Link to post
Share on other sites

hace 2 horas, leorccv dijo:

Greetings, I saw some mistakes on Celta Vigo's (Vigo in game) 2nd and 3rd teams. Here I let you all the changes that should be made, hoping that they will be!

Thanks for reading, I hope this will be fixed soon because they are several mistakes. 

Fixed the thing on Carreira, Iago Domínguez and the Youth Players. The others are game wrongly assigning them as they are in their correct teams in the DB...

Link to post
Share on other sites

7 分钟前, Zinegod说:

Then, according to your data, the key player of Real Madrid is Eder Militao. That's good to know.

 

And about the PA of young players of Barcelona and Madrid, they're independent values, the PA of Barcelona's players doesn't influence the PA of the Madrid ones.

Of course, their values are subjective, like the values of all the others players in the database.

It's really weired that you analysed the data in that way.

And also Real Madrid and Barcelona got the same reputation in real life. 

Valverde  and Militao played much better than Ronald Araújo, but look at their pa. Is it a joke?

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, acceptz said:

It's really weired that you analysed the data in that way.

And also Real Madrid and Barcelona got the same reputation in real life. 

Valverde  and Militao played much better than Ronald Araújo, but look at their pa. Is it a joke?

 

Please, stick to factual objective errors and bugs. PA are a subjetive matter, not a data error.

Link to post
Share on other sites

21 Year Old Spanish CB, Aday (Aday Brian Alonso Monzon), is not a Free Agent, and also has missing Career Stats information. He moved to ATSV Stadl-Paur as a Free Agent (as listed in his Career Stats), but was picked up by his old club, U.D. Villa de Santa Brígida on an End of Contract and re-signed on July 1st, 2020, and was present for the 2020/21 season, and is at the club until his contract expires on June 30th, 2022.

According to data available from Soccerway:
U.D. Villa de Santa Brígida - Spanish Third Division Group 12 2018/19 season - 5 apps, 0 goals.
U.D. Villa de Santa Brígida - Spanish Third Division Group 12 2019/20 season - 6 apps, 1 goals.
U.D. Villa de Santa Brígida - Spanish Third Division Group 12 2020/21 season - 6 apps, 0 goals.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aday/profil/spieler/745342
https://uk.soccerway.com/players/aday-alonso-monzon/589963/

Link to post
Share on other sites

23 Year Old Spanish RW, Ángel Romero (Ángel Romero Martínez), previously at Zamora, is not a Free Agent. He was signed by C.D. Rota on July 1st, 2021, supposedly on an End of Contract. He is contracted to the club until June 30th, 2022.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/angel-romero/profil/spieler/688752
https://www.rfaf.es/pnfg/NPcd/NFG_VisEquipos?cod_primaria=1000119&Codigo_Equipo=300815

Link to post
Share on other sites

16 Year Old Colombian LW, Jhonnier Montaño, previously at Club Centro Deportivo Municipal, joined Huesca's U19s Team on a Free Transfer on July 25th, 2021. He also now seems to be going by the name, Jhonnier Montaño Jr.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jhonnier-montano/profil/spieler/742528
https://rpp.pe/futbol/descentralizado/deportivo-municipal-confirmo-que-jhonnier-montano-jr-jugara-en-huesca-de-espana-noticia-1349469

Link to post
Share on other sites

Team registered in spanish fifth tier has an error on their name and kits.

 

Name
Vilafranca Penedès -> FC Vilafranca

Home kit

Shirt: red & yellow vertical stripes in front, with red borders. Plain red with white number in the back.
Shorts: plain navy blue or plain red, both with a small white vertical stripe on the sides, depending the opposite team (being navy blue the preferred)
Socks: plain navy blue or red & yellow horizontal stripes depending the opposite team (being navy blue the preferred)

Source: club's twitter account:
https://twitter.com/FCVilafranca/status/1422984835384107013

https://twitter.com/FCVilafranca/status/1426963458222923784

Away kit

Shirt: plain "dark" blue with a small white vertical stripe on the sides. Number in white
Shorts: plain navy blue with a small white vertical stripe on the sides
Socks: plain navy blue

Source: club's twitter account:

https://twitter.com/FCVilafranca/status/1434586281154125833


Goalkeeper kit

Home kit: full plain white
Away kit: full plain fluorescent pink

Source: club's twitter account:

https://twitter.com/FCVilafranca/status/1422984835384107013
https://twitter.com/FCVilafranca/status/1444316425838071809

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, CTxCB said:

16 Year Old Colombian LW, Jhonnier Montaño, previously at Club Centro Deportivo Municipal, joined Huesca's U19s Team on a Free Transfer on July 25th, 2021. He also now seems to be going by the name, Jhonnier Montaño Jr.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jhonnier-montano/profil/spieler/742528
https://rpp.pe/futbol/descentralizado/deportivo-municipal-confirmo-que-jhonnier-montano-jr-jugara-en-huesca-de-espana-noticia-1349469

He signed for EF Huesca, a youth football school playing at u-19 second tier, which has no link to SD Huesca (The club playing in Spaish Secod Division)

http://efhuesca.com/academia/#equipos

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

This site uses cookies - We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.