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Please post any data issues related to Switzerland here.

As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

·        State what you think is specifically wrong with a particular piece of data.              

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Please note that any non-data issues specific to Switzerland should be reported in a new thread on the Bug Tracker (at that link). This would include issues such as league scheduling, league table sorting rules and match rules.

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vor 10 Minuten schrieb S5B:

Hello,

I noticed an error in the profil (age, nationality, and career) of a member of the staff coach of the “Team Vaud U21” team. How could I help you to make the good changements ?

Just post it in here and I will change it. :)

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vor 10 Minuten schrieb S5B:

This coach was born the 15/08/1996.

3 nationalities : Swiss, French and Spanish

He didn’t play as a player in Chênois, but he was Head Coach of a youth team there in 2019-20 and 2020-21.

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I've just made all the changes. Thank you very much!

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vor einer Stunde schrieb CTxCB:

24 Year Old Czech MC / RM, Roman Macek, previously at FC Lugano, is not a Free Agent, having joined Team Ticino U21 on a Free Transfer on August 25th, 2021.

Source(s):
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/roman-macek/profil/spieler/256085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Macek
https://www.sport.de/fussball/pe366291/roman-macek/

this is a special case, as the player will leave team in winter ... he is not anymore on the contingent list of FC Lugano for this season. we @aulitwill check that internally, how we can solve that case ...

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The FC Lugano U21 plays in the Swiss Cup for the second year in a row in my Save. In reallife the U21 Teams never play in the Swiss Cup. 
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Cup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021-22_Swiss_Cup

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Am 2.11.2021 um 20:15 schrieb Ennio:

The FC Lugano U21 plays in the Swiss Cup for the second year in a row in my Save. In reallife the U21 Teams never play in the Swiss Cup. 
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Cup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021-22_Swiss_Cup

Screenshot 2021-11-02 165337.png

I've reported this to SI. Thanks for raising this issue.

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And another Issue which I postet in another thread but they send me here for:

"At the moment I am playing at Kriens in the Challenge league. I always get the option to send new arrivals on a language course for italian, one player even demanded it. But Kriens is in the german part of switzerland and most people in this area don't even speak italian. But somehow it considers Kriens to be italian as well, even all the players who have been at the club for some time speak it."

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Joël1886:

And another Issue which I postet in another thread but they send me here for:

"At the moment I am playing at Kriens in the Challenge league. I always get the option to send new arrivals on a language course for italian, one player even demanded it. But Kriens is in the german part of switzerland and most people in this area don't even speak italian. But somehow it considers Kriens to be italian as well, even all the players who have been at the club for some time speak it."

Same issue here with Young Boys.

Also, none of the U18 B-Teams are affiliated with their supposed parent club. I've had my own U18 B-Team make a transfer offer for one of my players. 

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb Joël1886:

And another Issue which I postet in another thread but they send me here for:

"At the moment I am playing at Kriens in the Challenge league. I always get the option to send new arrivals on a language course for italian, one player even demanded it. But Kriens is in the german part of switzerland and most people in this area don't even speak italian. But somehow it considers Kriens to be italian as well, even all the players who have been at the club for some time speak it."

This is an ongoing issue that SI is working on. We from research did what we needed to but the game doesn't recognize the different language regions yet. 

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vor 41 Minuten schrieb 45c0m:

Same issue here with Young Boys.

Also, none of the U18 B-Teams are affiliated with their supposed parent club. I've had my own U18 B-Team make a transfer offer for one of my players. 

This is an ongoing issue as well, as the game doesn't recognize U18B teams as affiliations and we are not able to set it as U18 teams because the game only allows one U18 team per club. We are working on a short-term fix and have raised a feature request for a long-term solution.

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I'm a noob to this forum so don't mind setting my straight if I just haven't figured out how to fix this specific issue myself or if this is not the place for this specific issue, but when I look at the Swiss Cup in the new game I don't see it being updated with the latest winner Luzern from 2020/2021 nor does it have St. Gallen as the runner up. It still states that Young Boys are the defending champions from the 2019/2020 season.

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vor 10 Stunden schrieb Iggster:

I'm a noob to this forum so don't mind setting my straight if I just haven't figured out how to fix this specific issue myself or if this is not the place for this specific issue, but when I look at the Swiss Cup in the new game I don't see it being updated with the latest winner Luzern from 2020/2021 nor does it have St. Gallen as the runner up. It still states that Young Boys are the defending champions from the 2019/2020 season.

This is the perfect place, no worries. I edited the cup winners. I was sure to have done this before, but apparently not. Luzern will be credited with the cup win in the winter update. Thanks for raising this.

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Hi. I'm currently managing FC Zürich, and there is an issue with the U-18 League. It ran as normal until the end of the 21/22 season, but failed to start the following season. The competition rule page lists the 22/23 season, but no matches were ever scheduled or played. This is also the case for my current season (23/24).

(This game was started in Beta, so apologies if this is a known and sorted issue for full release)

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb killerkoala:

Hi. I'm currently managing FC Zürich, and there is an issue with the U-18 League. It ran as normal until the end of the 21/22 season, but failed to start the following season. The competition rule page lists the 22/23 season, but no matches were ever scheduled or played. This is also the case for my current season (23/24).

(This game was started in Beta, so apologies if this is a known and sorted issue for full release)

Hi, thank you for raising this. I've reported it internally. I did not make the same experiences in my tests. But it's well worth investigating. I'm sorry this occured in your save and we'll try to fix it.

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6 hours ago, killerkoala said:

Hi. I'm currently managing FC Zürich, and there is an issue with the U-18 League. It ran as normal until the end of the 21/22 season, but failed to start the following season. The competition rule page lists the 22/23 season, but no matches were ever scheduled or played. This is also the case for my current season (23/24).

(This game was started in Beta, so apologies if this is a known and sorted issue for full release)

Hi there, can you post about this here please?  https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2022-bugs-forum/league-specific-issues/switzerland-official-league-specific-issues/

Also, we really need a save before this issue happens if you could provide us one?  As aulit says, this is not reproducing for us so something rare must be causing this in your save.  Thanks!

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Not sure if this is limited by the game possibilities, so forgive me if the mistake is impossible to fix

St. Gallen and Wil share an U18 team according to the name, but in-game both clubs have a separate U18 team with different players

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vor 4 Stunden schrieb Selwink:

Not sure if this is limited by the game possibilities, so forgive me if the mistake is impossible to fix

St. Gallen and Wil share an U18 team according to the name, but in-game both clubs have a separate U18 team with different players

Hi, as shared youth teams don't work (yet) so we've taken the approach that the U18 St. Gallen/Wil is affiliated with St. Gallen, while the U18B Wil/St. Gallen is affiliated with Wil. The U18B is in reality an U17 side with players largely from FC Wil, therefore we decided to go that route. As soon as shared youth teams are something the game is able to handle, we will go with a different approach. But until then, this is the best solution we could come up with.

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Jordi Quintilla playing for FC Basel on a 54k per week contract....is this right ?

Seems far too high...

 

Ante Coric  playing for Zurich on loan...Zurich pays full contract wage.

Also, seems too high.

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Am 20.11.2021 um 13:47 schrieb Xpert:

Jordi Quintilla playing for FC Basel on a 54k per week contract....is this right ?

Seems far too high...

 

Ante Coric  playing for Zurich on loan...Zurich pays full contract wage.

Also, seems too high.

Thanks, I've corrected both of these. Quintilla should be on 54k per month, not week. Zurich pays approximately 25% of Coric's wage.

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vor 7 Stunden schrieb Joël1886:

I don't know if it's a data issue or where it belongs but I'll try it here.

I startet a savegame in switzerland on the beta. Know im in season 27/28 but it just doesnt start. I am in november now but only the cup startet.

Do you play with any mods? League extension files, for example?

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Am 7.12.2021 um 11:13 schrieb Joël1886:

I don't know if it's a data issue or where it belongs but I'll try it here.

I startet a savegame in switzerland on the beta. Know im in season 27/28 but it just doesnt start. I am in november now but only the cup startet.

Got the same problem here. i dont play with any mods. 

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Am 7.12.2021 um 21:13 schrieb ♕Call Me King♕:

I noticed that dennis salanovic is trained only in lichtenstein and not in both nation switzerland and lichtenstein like the other player from lichtenstein teams

This might be because he played two years abroad (Atlético and Istra) before he turned 21. But you're right, he should count as home trained player for Switzerland. I forwared this to our Finnish colleagues.

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On 12/12/2021 at 17:16, Chanku said:

Got the same problem here. i dont play with any mods. 

Hello, please post about this on the Switzerland league specific issues forum.  It would be very helpful if you could provide us a save with this issue happening.  Thanks.

https://community.sigames.com/bugtracker/football-manager-2022-bugs-forum/league-specific-issues/switzerland-official-league-specific-issues/

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The name of Nicolas Ngamaleu(BSC Young Boys) should be changed to Nicolas Moumi Ngamaleu: Please see reference: https://de.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/players/250109792--nicolas-moumi-ngamaleu/statistics/ https://www.transfermarkt.de/nicolas-moumi-ngamaleu/profil/spieler/266768

The name of Tosin Aiyegun(FC Zürich) should be changed to Aiyegun Tosin: Please see reference: https://www.fcz.ch/de/profis/team-kader/aiyegun-tosin/ https://www.transfermarkt.de/aiyegun-tosin/profil/spieler/239647

The birth date of Tim Spycher from FC Basel is wrong. It must be 13.04.2004 instead of 13.04.2003  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/tim-spycher/profil/spieler/604817 https://www.weltfussball.com/spieler_profil/tim-spycher/

The birth date of Vasilije Janjici from FC Zürich is wrong. It must be 02.11.1998 instead of 02.01.1998  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/vasilije-janjicic/profil/spieler/265254 https://www.fcz.ch/de/profis/team-kader/vasilije-janjicic/

The birth date of Boris babic from St. Gallen is wrong. It must be 10.11.1997 instead of 12.11.1997  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/boris-babic/profil/spieler/237660 https://www.fcsg.ch/home/daten/kader/babic-boris/

The birth date of Salifou Diarrassouba from St. Gallen is wrong. It must be 20.12.2001 instead of 22.12.2001  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/salifou-diarrassouba/profil/spieler/649459 https://www.fcsg.ch/home/daten/kader/diarrassouba-salifou/

The birth date of Jordan Lefort from Young Boys is wrong. It must be 09.08.1993 instead of 28.06.1993  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/jordan-lefort/profil/spieler/192492

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Am 25.12.2021 um 19:59 schrieb Ente35:

The name of Nicolas Ngamaleu(BSC Young Boys) should be changed to Nicolas Moumi Ngamaleu: Please see reference: https://de.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/players/250109792--nicolas-moumi-ngamaleu/statistics/ https://www.transfermarkt.de/nicolas-moumi-ngamaleu/profil/spieler/266768

The name of Tosin Aiyegun(FC Zürich) should be changed to Aiyegun Tosin: Please see reference: https://www.fcz.ch/de/profis/team-kader/aiyegun-tosin/ https://www.transfermarkt.de/aiyegun-tosin/profil/spieler/239647

The birth date of Tim Spycher from FC Basel is wrong. It must be 13.04.2004 instead of 13.04.2003  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/tim-spycher/profil/spieler/604817 https://www.weltfussball.com/spieler_profil/tim-spycher/

The birth date of Vasilije Janjici from FC Zürich is wrong. It must be 02.11.1998 instead of 02.01.1998  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/vasilije-janjicic/profil/spieler/265254 https://www.fcz.ch/de/profis/team-kader/vasilije-janjicic/

The birth date of Boris babic from St. Gallen is wrong. It must be 10.11.1997 instead of 12.11.1997  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/boris-babic/profil/spieler/237660 https://www.fcsg.ch/home/daten/kader/babic-boris/

The birth date of Salifou Diarrassouba from St. Gallen is wrong. It must be 20.12.2001 instead of 22.12.2001  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/salifou-diarrassouba/profil/spieler/649459 https://www.fcsg.ch/home/daten/kader/diarrassouba-salifou/

The birth date of Jordan Lefort from Young Boys is wrong. It must be 09.08.1993 instead of 28.06.1993  Please see following reference for it: https://www.transfermarkt.de/jordan-lefort/profil/spieler/192492

Thank you very much. These changes have been done.

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vor einer Stunde schrieb Apocalyptica62:

Hi,

There is a mistake about the nationality of the physio of the first team of Lausanne-Sport. 
 

Simon Daboul, born in 17/06/1993, French and not Swiss. 
 

Thanks for the modification.

That's corrected, thanks!

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb jesper.stam:

Is there a reason why my u18 of Vaduz can't get promoted to the Schweizer u18 Elite Liga?

Yes, there is no relegation or promotion in the U18 leagues. The league Team Liechtenstein is in is the so called B-group, where the U18 teams of smaller clubs and the U17 teams of the big clubs play in. Relegation and promotion was abandoned either last year or the year before.

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Am 28.2.2022 um 22:56 schrieb Delvi:

Stéphane Henchoz, ID 2018578, date of birth: 7/3/1974 -> 7/9/1974, place of birth: Billens

Thanks for this. I've reported it to the French research, as he is with Lyon now. It should be done soon.

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Am 7.3.2022 um 21:50 schrieb MattyLewis11:

Vaduz have the wrong stadium in the game, they play their home fixtures at Rheinpark Stadion. 

Doesn't it change back to Rheinpark in September 2021? We set it this way as Vaduz played their first home games of the season in Schaffhausen, due to a pitch change at Rheinpark. 

Edit: I just tested it. If you go to club -> facilities it says "due to move to Rheinpark on 01.09.2021." In my test, this worked as intended.

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35 minutes ago, aulit said:

Doesn't it change back to Rheinpark in September 2021? We set it this way as Vaduz played their first home games of the season in Schaffhausen, due to a pitch change at Rheinpark. 

Edit: I just tested it. If you go to club -> facilities it says "due to move to Rheinpark on 01.09.2021." In my test, this worked as intended.

You are indeed correct, appologies 👍

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vor 24 Minuten schrieb MattyLewis11:

You are indeed correct, appologies 👍

No worries. This is a special case anyway.

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