MasterKano Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 I'd like to have direct access to Club Academies in-game so that I can more closely monitor the youth players from a younger age, generally I'm lead to believe that the academies system begins at the age of 8 and currently the game recognises the beginning of a career from the age of 15. I'd like the ability to remove "lesser" players from my academies and better ability to micro-manage the staff. At the moment the detail involved in Youth teams, Scouting and Academies is incredibly shallow, neigh-on non-existent as the development section in-game is poorly optimized. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFuller Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Counter-argument: it is not usually in a football manager's remit to micro-manage junior teams and academies to this extent. Think about it. Pep Guardiola wouldn't look in on Man City's Under-14s team and then tell them to drop a 13-year-old kid because he didn't have 5* potential. But even if he could, and even with City's resources, it would be unrealistic for him to just sign up all the best schoolkids in England or sign all the best youth coaches. Now let's assume SI did give you more say over your junior teams. Do you realise how much processing power would be needed to add thousands upon thousands of schoolboy players aged 9-15 to the game - only a small percentage of whom will even make it to the Under-18s squad, let alone play professionally? That seems like an incredible waste of resources. The current youth system works fine as is. Every year, your youth intake has the best players from your Under-16s squad, whose ability/potential are determined by various factors - junior coaching, youth facilities, youth recruitment, etc. It's actually very well optimised, and there is no real need to go deeper. Yeah, some of those players won't be good enough for your first-team, but that's how it is in real life. If you look through Arsenal's youth teams over the last decade and see where those players are now, most of those will have become lower-league journeymen or part-time footballers - and that's if they're even still playing. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterKano Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 It could be employed as an option, regardless of whether someone likes the idea it's a massive part of football and should really be included. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Michael Sant Posted December 2, 2021 SI Staff Share Posted December 2, 2021 Hey @MasterKano what levels of interaction are you intending for there to be with this? Most clubs from what I'm aware of will have multiple teams at certain age groups and having multiple age groups too. How do you see some of the following playing out in game: - 50 to 100+ additional players per club having to be included - Multiple levels of youth fixtures impacting the game processing for nations selected - Releasing children from clubs - Reflecting youth transfers in a legally accurate manner - Injuries - Training schedules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannside of Killowen Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 02/12/2021 at 03:16, Michael Sant said: Hey @MasterKano what levels of interaction are you intending for there to be with this? Most clubs from what I'm aware of will have multiple teams at certain age groups and having multiple age groups too. How do you see some of the following playing out in game: - 50 to 100+ additional players per club having to be included - Multiple levels of youth fixtures impacting the game processing for nations selected - Releasing children from clubs - Reflecting youth transfers in a legally accurate manner - Injuries - Training schedules Personally I would be happy if I could see the academy teams and be involved with the coaching teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAwtunes Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 @Michael SantThe number of players/ fixtures etc. would grow exponentially if each club had a full youth structure - especially for larger teams! I know where I live that their are loads of kids in the 'Foxes', which is a development academy for Leicester City - and we're no where near Leicester, so I would imagine their academy is vast in England alone! Perhaps the next step would be having more sight of how the junior coaching budget and youth recruitment budget is being spent, perhaps even some input into where academies are being established and how training budget is used to develop staff and recruit new staff - just high level (so no new staff members in the db). We might even be able to get feedback from the HoYD on which academy/region is proving most fruitful, how we might reallocate money to improve results etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Kyle Brown Posted July 20, 2022 Administrators Share Posted July 20, 2022 While I appreciate everyone's input, it's not something we're likely to go forward with for a host of reasons, namely because of the processing strain it would put on games to include this many extra layers to youth football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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