Tikka Mezzala Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, mark1985 said: One of us one of us Might as well. It's pretty much a former Celtic XI anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said: Might as well. It's pretty much a former Celtic XI anyway We need all the help we can get next season. Would ask if you have anyone good up there but after last season… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mark1985 said: We need all the help we can get next season. Would ask if you have anyone good up there but after last season… Aye. We're gonna need some good snake oil salesman to punt some of these players. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 ore fa, skybluedave ha scritto: Must have missed the draw with Denmark That is a W for England in fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I know. But not according to Roberto Baggio there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minuto fa, skybluedave ha scritto: I know. But not according to Roberto Baggio there He's still frozen in Pasadena. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tikka Mezzala said: England's route to success is pretty clear as far as I can see: appoint Tony Pulis. Demand to play games on Tuesday evenings (especially in the winter), and move home games from Wembley to the Bet365 Stadium. We all know "continental" players canny handle such conditions. didn't they not have this sort of thing with big Sam? although that didn't last long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, TM said: didn't they not have this sort of thing with big Sam? although that didn't last long Big Sam was too soft. They need someone who wears a skip hat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Saka could have had a good game. And then, he became mentally terrified when someone almost twice his age taught him real football by just casually wrestling him onto the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Wait wait: I read some english fans raised a petition to replay the game? It's alright for me but you need a play-off match against France before, as they have to replay their game against Swiss Omg it's true!!! https://www.change.org/p/euros-2020-managers-rematch-demand-for-italy-v-england Go signing guys! It's coming home! P.S.: sorry, I don't mean to be offensive but I laughed loud when I heard something like that from french fans... but this is even worse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Federico said: Wait wait: I read some english fans launched a petition to replay the game? It's alright for me but you need a play-off match against France before, as they have to replay their game against Swiss Omg it's true!!! https://www.change.org/p/euros-2020-managers-rematch-demand-for-italy-v-england Go signing guys! It's coming home! P.S.: sorry, I don't mean to be offensive but I laughed loud when I heard something like that from french fans... but this is even worse. Why do you care so much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federico Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minuti fa, themadsheep2001 ha scritto: Why do you care so much? Nahhhh just mocking 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I do find the term in the petition "dragging England players like they were slaves" a bit problematic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Reggiana said: I do find the term in the petition "dragging England players like they were slaves" a bit problematic. The lower case "italy" is worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 It's a stupid petition, but then we also have a petition to change the name of London to Sterlingrad 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I feel like Federico really wants to stick it to the England fans on here but the problem is vast majority on here A.) accept Italy deserve it and were the better team and B.) while disapointed we lost, are just happy with England making a bloody final 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, skybluedave said: I feel like Federico really wants to stick it to the England fans on here but the problem is vast majority on here A.) accept Italy deserve it and were the better team and B.) while disapointed we lost, are just happy with England making a bloody final Yeah, really wants an angry bite, which is odd given how much he hates it when Gunman winds him up about Juventus being cheats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Even I'm being respectful (by my standards ) considering how many of you people mocked that blatant robbery in semi-final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, enigmatic said: It's a stupid petition, but then we also have a petition to change the name of London to Sterlingrad Sounds better than London to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The comments on that petition are a fun read. You can tell the majority of the people hadn't ever watched a football match before. I like this one from Karen: Quote I think England played a good game.no pulling clothes tripping over or yellow cards.when a player gets a yellow card it's a warning to behave but to get 3 and still allowed to play is downright disgraceful.they didn't win football,they were bullies 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: The comments on that petition are a fun read. You can tell the majority of the people hadn't ever watched a football match before. I like this one from Karen: What's in a name.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan045 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Loving the over dramatic description. “Definitely biased” 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: The comments on that petition are a fun read. You can tell the majority of the people hadn't ever watched a football match before. I like this one from Karen: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Surely nobody who watches football regularly actually thinks the referee was biased? Chiellini tackle on Saka is never a red card on the halfway line and there’s another defender in shot so he wasn’t even the last man. It is scummy but it’s part of the game, if we’d be more counter attacking throughout with our pace we could’ve put him on a yellow earlier in the game and made things more interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) I thought the ref was fair to both teams, let the play go when he could and blew the whistle when he had to Chellini's foul is a yellow in the majority of games, players were getting back. If you want one that potentially verges on a red, it's probably the one where Jorginho and Grealish collided, some refs would possibly give a red for that as Grealish gets a stud in the knee with the follow up. For me being somebody who has watched football for decades, I'd say it's 50-50 but it's one where it could go either way Edited July 12, 2021 by TM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eenie Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said: Surely nobody who watches football regularly actually thinks the referee was biased? Chiellini tackle on Saka is never a red card on the halfway line and there’s another defender in shot so he wasn’t even the last man. It is scummy but it’s part of the game, if we’d be more counter attacking throughout with our pace we could’ve put him on a yellow earlier in the game and made things more interesting. Chiellini's foul was 100% cynical and 100% a yellow, but never anything more than that. Just a classic case of a defender taking a card for the team. He knew exactly what he was doing but it happens all the time in football. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Thought the ref had a very good game and I have no complaints at all on that front. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Even I'm being respectful (by my standards ) considering how many of you people mocked that blatant robbery in semi-final. I was thinking that myself. Have you had a religious experience between the Denmark game and today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, TM said: I thought the ref was fair to both teams, let the play go when he could and blew the whistle when he had to Chellini's foul is a yellow in the majority of games, players were getting back. If you want one that potentially verges on a red, it's probably the one where Jorginho and Grealish collided, some refs would possibly give a red for that as Grealish gets a stud in the knee with the follow up. For me being somebody who has watched football for decades, I'd say it's 50-50 but it's one where it could go either way Definitely seen reds given for that, easy to argue it was dangerous play, but personally given there was very limited intent from Jorginho I think in an ideal world you don’t want to see reds for things like that especially in big games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, eenie said: Chiellini's foul was 100% cynical and 100% a yellow, but never anything more than that. Just a classic case of a defender taking a card for the team. He knew exactly what he was doing but it happens all the time in football. Exactly. Much like the pen for Sterling, loads of talk around something that happens all the time. A red would have been very, very harsh. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said: I was thinking that myself. Have you had a religious experience between the Denmark game and today? Nah, I'm better than those people. Never kick someone when they're down. But some of the posts after Denmark game were enough to know true faces of some posters. An they were probably under heavy influence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Entering the forum doesn't require a sobriety test. Would have been though And an issue in a mainly English forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Nah, I'm better than those people. Never kick someone when they're down. But some of the posts after Denmark game were enough to know true faces of some posters. An they were probably under heavy influence. People have different opinions to you gunman. Given some of the appalling ones you've had, I'd refrain from judging anyone, because you're really not better, you spent 13 hours having a conspiracy filled meltdown after the result, including an extremely low point referencing Eriksen's injury 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: The comments on that petition are a fun read. You can tell the majority of the people hadn't ever watched a football match before. I like this one from Karen: I like Beverly's take... "this is totally unacceptable, the referee should have acted more appropriately, what sort of message dose this send to children" Anybody struck by how many women signed the petition? Not that women can't enjoy football or have **** takes but it's predominantly a male dominated sport and that petition seems to be mostly women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, themadsheep2001 said: People have different opinions to you gunman. Given some of the appalling ones you've had, I'd refrain from judging anyone I wasn't even talking about opinions, I was talking about people literally posting various troll gifs and one member even called me an imbecile, saying he's willing to take the ban. And then he edited the post 2 minutes later. I know it was an emotional rollercoaster, but some posters are a joke and always will be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) All I remember from the Denmark thread was Gunman forgetting who got sent off between France and Croatia at WC98 Edited July 12, 2021 by skybluedave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: All I remember from the Denmark thread was Gunman forgetting who got sent off between France and Croatia at WC98 Precisely. People in glass houses and all that. The remark about Eriksen was a real low point, on a serious note. Thought it was pretty despicable to throw that in. If you're gonna call people a joke, that was much worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, skybluedave said: All I remember from the Denmark thread was Gunman forgetting who got sent off between France and Croatia at WC98 and thinking that Kevin Doyle was English Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: The remark about Eriksen was a real low point, on a serious note. Thought it was pretty despicable to throw that in. That remark was meant in a way that it's disgusting to blatantly dive considering what happened. I said that it was obvious how players in that and Belgium-Russia game afterwards didn't want to fall easily considering what happened, but then they all started to diving again after a couple of days passed. Remember that Kane-Phillips situation from last night? Both of them acting as if they just suffered severe injuries, only to go up 5 seconds later because England still had the ball. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, skybluedave said: All I remember from the Denmark thread was Gunman forgetting who got sent off between France and Croatia at WC98 The even better post was the follow-up where he claimed that it was still a conspiracy because the red card for France strengthened their resolve or something like that But clearly, at that point he was merely trolling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: That remark was meant in a way that it's disgusting to blatantly dive considering what happened. I said that it was obvious how players in that and Belgium-Russia game afterwards didn't want to fall easily considering what happened, but then they all started to diving again after a couple of days passed. Remember that Kane-Phillips situation from last night? Both of them acting as if they just suffered severe injuries, only to go up 5 seconds later because England still had the ball. Let's be absolutely clear: there was zero reason to mention him and it's bad faith posting. Not even remotely related and if you're going to even try and conflate that with Sterling then I think we're done here to be honest, tried to give you the benefit of doubt but i don't think you're worth it. Pretty scummy thing to do to mention that tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georginho_juventusygr Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I want to thank the passion from English fans. So passionate that I could hear Atomic Kitten again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: That remark was meant in a way that it's disgusting to blatantly dive considering what happened. I said that it was obvious how players in that and Belgium-Russia game afterwards didn't want to fall easily considering what happened, but then they all started to diving again after a couple of days passed.. Poulsen went full Neymar in the same game! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butts Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Thought the ref was really good tbf, Chiellini one always being given as a yellow although it's far more dangerous than giving someone a tap to the face that you'd see a red card for. Personally think Jorginho one was a red and was a bit surprised he wasn't asked to have a look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, Weezer said: I like Beverly's take... "this is totally unacceptable, the referee should have acted more appropriately, what sort of message dose this send to children" Anybody struck by how many women signed the petition? Not that women can't enjoy football or have **** takes but it's predominantly a male dominated sport and that petition seems to be mostly women. Yeah I think the OP of that petition is creating a ton of sock puppet accounts to sign it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, enigmatic said: Poulsen went full Neymar in the same game! Well he doesn't have any chance of matching him for footballing ability, so that's as close as he'll get 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Butts said: Thought the ref was really good tbf, Chiellini one always being given as a yellow although it's far more dangerous than giving someone a tap to the face that you'd see a red card for. Personally think Jorginho one was a red and was a bit surprised he wasn't asked to have a look. Yes, Jorginho foul definitely one of those that look far worse in the replay, but you could still tell that it was inadvertent. There are for sure refs who would give a red for that and the VAR wouldn't have been out of line to ask him to take another look. That being said, for this game it was the right call I think, based on how he had handled the game up to that point. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I think VAR was very absent all tournament. I guess they avoid getting involved very easily because who's judging what is an obvious mistake by the ref? Philips with the same sort of tackle. The penalty against Denmark. It seems to be that as soon as you can say 'the ref can give it/decide like this', there is no longer leeway to call it an obvious mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: Yes, Jorginho foul definitely one of those that look far worse in the replay, but you could still tell that it was inadvertent. There are for sure refs who would give a red for that and the VAR wouldn't have been out of line to ask him to take another look. That being said, for this game it was the right call I think, based on how he had handled the game up to that point. I think the fact that Jorginho's foot slipped off the ball onto Grealish probably saved him from red. I don't think he could have had many complaints if that had been red. Thought the ref was excellent throughout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, enigmatic said: It's a stupid petition, but then we also have a petition to change the name of London to Sterlingrad Let’s rename it anyway comrade 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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