Match 43: England vs Germany. 5PM (BST) BBC1 LIVE FROM WEMBLEY !!!

[darren1983]

2 hours ago, samuelawachie said:

Oh!, it’s going to be so glorious when England lose this. 

 

2 hours ago, samuelawachie said:

See you guys at halftime. Don’t forget to breathe! Let’s go, Germany!

[craigcwwe]

Oh my days!!!! 

Incredible.

[Darius1998]

Mark Seagraves wearing an English flag wig in the studio.

[thefmveteran86]

5 minutes ago, SteveUK said:

Can they stop showing the Germany manager picking his ****ing nose ffs.

 

[Baptista_8]

I just can't believe we've won that

[thefmveteran86]

Got to applaud Pickford he's built different

[InigoPatinkin]

Just now, XuluBak said:

Absolutely not. He made this game competitive, and with a different ref, probably costs them the game. England won despite Gareth.

Germany's best chance came from Sterling losing his mind and England missed several good chances themselves. England tactically were excellent and both their goals came from exploiting Germany's wing back system. 

[hursty2]

How good

[craigcwwe]

SOUTHGATE'S REDEMPTION! 

[av3ry]

@samuelawachiewas that German kid crying in the crowd

[CFuller]

Just now, Pompeyboyz said:

England have beaten Germany for the first time in a knockout round of a major tournament since 1966.

Anyone know about that one 

I would ask my parents, but they were 9 months and 21 months old at the time. 

[thefmveteran86]

Just now, Baptista_8 said:

I just can't believe we've won that

I can't but we're on cloud nine, we need to keep this momentum 

[Mr Adam]

Ukraine are going to beat us aren’t they 

[metal_guitarist]

Now watch us get knocked out by Ukraine in the quarters, you’d think we’d just won the final the way they’re celebrating. Long way to go yet 

[Butts]

How bitter are those that were looking forward to our demise tonight 

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, CFuller said:

I would ask my parents, but they were 9 months and 21 months old at the time. 

Cheers, as if I didn’t feel ancient round here at the best of times 

[Baptista_8]

Sterling when he gave that ball away...that reaction shows just how much it means to him

[martinji]

Lovely Sweet Caroline singalong there.  Really reminds me of Euro 96 as that's when I got into Neil Diamond.  Nobody was singing Sweet Caroline back then.

[EnterUsernameHere]

Just now, Butts said:

How bitter are those that were looking forward to our demise tonight 

Not bitter personally. England deserved to win today if you ask me. Just not convinced one bit that the tactical set up was right by Southgate despite the result.

[Mr Adam]

1 minute ago, metal_guitarist said:

Now watch us get knocked out by Ukraine in the quarters, you’d think we’d just won the final the way they’re celebrating. Long way to go yet 

To be fair they deserve to celebrate like this after every win considering all the nonsense they get inbetween games 

[themadsheep2001]

How are they sleeping on Shaw? Not having this

[Marc Albrighton]

Just now, metal_guitarist said:

Now watch us get knocked out by Ukraine in the quarters, you’d think we’d just won the final the way they’re celebrating. Long way to go yet 

I think we can just enjoy beating the Germans who usually embarrass us at tournaments for the past 60+ years without worrying right this second where and when we might go out.

[Astafjevs]

England could have played any system. They're better than Germany. They have better players. That made the difference. Sterling is better than most of Germany's forwards. So is Kane. Ditto most of the other players on that pitch except Rice and Phillips

[bestbrother]

Happy for the old man with that 

[JJ72]

15 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said:

That’s as bad as my Swiss roll one last night

Damn. I missed that one. I do that one every time my kids order sausage roll for their dinner.

[VamPook]

Can you imagine the newspaper headlines if Muller equalised and Germany won 😳

[Pukey]

Think anyone being overly critical of Southgate for this is being exceptionally harsh. Again, not perfect, and not thrilling, but the game plan was clear and it absolutely worked. Rode our luck with the Muller miss in particular but I thought we absolutely deserved the win.

[Butts]

1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

Not bitter personally. England deserved to win today if you ask me. Just not convinced one bit that the tactical set up was right by Southgate despite the result.

You can’t have thought the referee favoured us though?

[DJ]

Just now, Astafjevs said:

England could have played any system. They're better than Germany. They have better players. That made the difference. Sterling is better than most of Germany's forwards. So is Kane. Ditto most of the other players on that pitch except Rice and Phillips

  Taking the mickey now

[Weezer]

3 minutes ago, Mr Adam said:

Ukraine are going to beat us aren’t they 

 

3 minutes ago, metal_guitarist said:

Now watch us get knocked out by Ukraine in the quarters, you’d think we’d just won the final the way they’re celebrating. Long way to go yet 

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, bestbrother said:

Happy for the old man with that 

Thanks

[EnterUsernameHere]

1 minute ago, Butts said:

You can’t have thought the referee favoured us though?

I don't. Edited my reply but probably after you read it.

[VamPook]

1 minute ago, Astafjevs said:

England could have played any system. They're better than Germany. They have better players. That made the difference. Sterling is better than most of Germany's forwards. So is Kane. Ditto most of the other players on that pitch except Rice and Phillips

Think the subs bench showed England has more quality. 

Argument being quite a few of that subs bench should have been starting

[Astafjevs]

1 minute ago, DJ said:

  Taking the mickey now

I think Kane - even the version at this competition - would finish the chance Muller had.

[Darius1998]

1 minute ago, DJ said:

  Taking the mickey now

I think he means usually. Not this tournament.

[Rob1981]

3 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

Just not convinced one bit that the tactical set up was right by Southgate despite the result.

Haha. God forbid you might give him some credit for the best game management in a generation.

[DJ]

1 minute ago, Butts said:

You can’t have thought the referee favoured us though?

Red would have been harsh for either, although I think Phillips was very, very close. But for the rest Makkelie was without error. 

[EnterUsernameHere]

Just now, Rob1981 said:

Haha. God forbid you might give him some credit for the best game management in a generation.

You should enjoy your win, get on the beers and off the forum

[enigmatic]

7 minutes ago, InigoPatinkin said:

Germany's best chance came from Sterling losing his mind and England missed several good chances themselves. England tactically were excellent and both their goals came from exploiting Germany's wing back system. 

Some of his more questioned decisions worked out too. Walker actually did a good job of covering holes in our defence that might well have still been there with a back four, Grealish came on at the right time, the midfield wasn't exactly creative but apart from the first 15 it was generally on top. Even keeping Kane on worked out OK

[Astafjevs]

If Phillips doesn't get the ball, it's a red card. But he did and was a bit unfortunate to go over the top of it. Yellow was right because of how he went in with the studs.

It's just one of those isn't it. If you mistime it you run the risk of taking the red. Time it correctly the ref doesn't bat an eyelid

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, Rob1981 said:

Haha. God forbid you might give him some credit for the best game management in a generation.

Thank god for that, I thought you might have died with happiness there.

You might be winning me over, slowly

[thefmveteran86]

9 minutes ago, av3ry said:

@samuelawachiewas that German kid crying in the crowd

This one?

[Hazzaj]

Really mature win, the difference in how the players approached the game v Iceland and the game today was so stark - some early nerves in the first ten minutes but you could see the confidence gradually building in the team rather than it being slowly drained away.

There may have been caution but there was no fear.

[Pedwar Pump]

6 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said:

How are they sleeping on Shaw? Not having this

It weird isn't it? He was arguably Englands best player, solid defensively and a threat going forward, always looked in control and had a huge part in both goals and he's hardly been mentioned.

[SouthCoastRed]

Four clean sheets in first four games, for only the second time….eek

 

First time….

[JJ72]

Balance was better today. Kane still appears to have no movement. Saka vanished in the second half. Could’ve had more subs, a pacier striker would’ve created more and caused Germany more problems.

Keeper and back 3 were outstanding. Maguire particularly coming forward when the opportunity presented itself. Still think we haven’t clicked up front yet.

[Heartwork]

Pickford is absolutely a big game player. Always shows up at tournaments.

[dafuge]

This feels weird:

 

[DJ]

2 minutes ago, EnterUsernameHere said:

You should enjoy your win, get on the beers and off the forum

This. I get that everyone is high on the win against the eternal bogeyman, but bigging up this win due to a superior team, tactics or whatever else, well, it is a bit much. Could easily have fallen the other way, 

Scoreboard fandom ^^

[themadsheep2001]

1 minute ago, Pedwar Pump said:

It weird isn't it? He was arguably Englands best player, solid defensively and a threat going forward, always looked in control and had a huge part in both goals and he's hardly been mentioned.

It's like they have their talking points so won't address anything that doesn't fit