PMLF Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Almost 100 years of defeats in knockout games… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The Pardew curse struck Pogba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pukey said: Actually thought Mbappe was well strong not to react in public Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pukey said: Was it not the age old French issue of being a great bunch of individuals but a torrid team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Gizmo7 said: Only Germany remain now from the Group of F then - who would have thought that?! They'll go out tomorrow. Hence the "group of death" thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I have no idea what Deschamps was thinking taking Griezmann off when he did. It was obvious that if Switzerland managed to equalise, then France would lack any creative threat going forward and the game would ultimately go to penalties. Then you have one of your best penalty takers on the bench... Very bad move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Travis Bickle said: I have no idea what Deschamps was thinking taking Griezmann off when he did. It was obvious that if Switzerland managed to equalise, then France would lack any creative threat going forward and the game would ultimately go to penalties. Then you have one of your best penalty takers on the bench... Very bad move. I know it was a long night but lets not forget his decision at the start to go 3412. Made no sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, skybluedave said: I know it was a long night but lets not forget his decision at the start to go 3412. Made no sense Yeah I know "injuries" but I think you stick with the system the team have trained in. Rather have a makeshift left-back than a makeshift formation. In general France never got going offensively this tournament other than 25 minutes this game. I'm still not sure Benzema over Giroud was the right move given Mbappe/Griezmann/Benzema seem to get in each others way, but of all those 3 players in an ET situation I'd want Griezmann on for his playmaking ability. Again, just bizarre to take him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Bickle Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just to add, do wonder if this opens the door for Zidane to come in, although I suspect Deschamps will have until after Qatar 2022. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Is it pointing where they been? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Edited June 28, 2021 by Baptista_8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Xhaka's performance tonight is largely how he's performed for us since Arteta came in, which is why it's frustrating that it looks like we will only get £15m for him Edited June 28, 2021 by ajw10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Can't believe a player of such sublime talent wasted five years at Arsenal tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 : thup : Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBruce Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Am I mistaken or did Lloris leap to his right on all six penalties (including the 2nd half save)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Massive shame Xhaka will not be able to play the quarter final. He’s a consistent player that has that ability to produce a masterclass like this now and again, I think most Arsenal fans have come to recognise that but many will forever dislike him based on those inevitable head rushes that happen a few times a year. Didn’t like the idea of getting less than £20m for him in the first place, especially not after today. Interesting how the French had somewhat of a penalty specialist in Maignan compared with Lloris, I’m sure they trusted their captain after Rodriguez but given the chance again, I wonder if Deschamps would have opted for a sub. Lloris looked weak in that shootout, like a rewatch of de Gea vs. Villarreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, VamPook said: : thup : "...remember, the key is to not rub it all over the sides, just the top, or it'll look stupid" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, ArsenalFan7 said: Massive shame Xhaka will not be able to play the quarter final. He’s a consistent player that has that ability to produce a masterclass like this now and again, I think most Arsenal fans have come to recognise that but many will forever dislike him based on those inevitable head rushes that happen a few times a year. Didn’t like the idea of getting less than £20m for him in the first place, especially not after today. Interesting how the French had somewhat of a penalty specialist in Maignan compared with Lloris, I’m sure they trusted their captain after Rodriguez but given the chance again, I wonder if Deschamps would have opted for a sub. Lloris looked weak in that shootout, like a rewatch of de Gea vs. Villarreal. I'm guessing they thought he'd saved a penalty earlier in the game so he can't be that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, ArsenalFan7 said: Massive shame Xhaka will not be able to play the quarter final. Oh no, I missed that part. How are Switzerland supposed to have any chance against Spain without him? He was sensational. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius1998 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Darius1998 said: Won't be able to watch this one. I did miss extra-time in that Italy-Austria game which has hopefully fulfilled my missed entertainment quota so maybe this one will be the opposite of that. Not the greatest decision apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I dont know what all the Mbappe hype is about. All he can do is run fast. Every time I see him shoot he misses the goal (and often by a mile) even if he is in a promising situation alone on goal etc. (The Champions League final against Bayern comes to mind where he received the ball 12 m in front of clear goal and all he was able to do was to roll the ball back to Neuer). And despite being fast as lightning, even grandpa Hummels was able to tackle him and get the ball back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfair Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 That's the most mesmerizing and thrilling Euro game I've ever seen. It had everything. Pogba's fantastic goal, Xhaka's genious pass to Gavranovic for 3-3, an underdog coming back from two behind with some 10 mins left, the biggest(?) star missing the fifth penalty. Also, I know hindsight is 20/20 but what are they thinking having Mbappe take the fifth penalty? Whoever decided that (himself most likely?) made a bad decision. He's not had a good tournament, he's still young and in this situation simply has everything to lose. You can't say you EXPECTED him to miss, but it wasn't shocking when he did either. Fantastic day of football, and to think the main event of watching my beloved Sweden play is yet to come. Now I'm just scared that both Eng and Swe will make it through, cause we will lose another quarter final to them I'm sure but I'm not so sure I can take the banter from my English friends for another few years, the WC quarter final was enough 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, Carambau said: I dont know what all the Mbappe hype is about. All he can do is run fast. Every time I see him shoot he misses the goal (and often by a mile) even if he is in a promising situation alone on goal etc. (The Champions League final against Bayern comes to mind where he received the ball 12 m in front of clear goal and all he was able to do was to roll the ball back to Neuer). And despite being fast as lightning, even grandpa Hummels was able to tackle him and get the ball back. Behave yourself, ffs. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubenJ Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, Carambau said: I dont know what all the Mbappe hype is about. All he can do is run fast. Every time I see him shoot he misses the goal (and often by a mile) even if he is in a promising situation alone on goal etc. (The Champions League final against Bayern comes to mind where he received the ball 12 m in front of clear goal and all he was able to do was to roll the ball back to Neuer). And despite being fast as lightning, even grandpa Hummels was able to tackle him and get the ball back. That’s utter nonsense isn’t it. Look at his career so far. A couple of bad matches don’t erase the fact he’s had one of the best careers any 22-year old has ever had at that age. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Norfair said: That's the most mesmerizing and thrilling Euro game I've ever seen. It had everything. Pogba's fantastic goal, Xhaka's genious pass to Gavranovic for 3-3, an underdog coming back from two behind with some 10 mins left, the biggest(?) star missing the fifth penalty. Also, I know hindsight is 20/20 but what are they thinking having Mbappe take the fifth penalty? Whoever decided that (himself most likely?) made a bad decision. He's not had a good tournament, he's still young and in this situation simply has everything to lose. You can't say you EXPECTED him to miss, but it wasn't shocking when he did either. Fantastic day of football, and to think the main event of watching my beloved Sweden play is yet to come. Now I'm just scared that both Eng and Swe will make it through, cause we will lose another quarter final to them I'm sure but I'm not so sure I can take the banter from my English friends for another few years, the WC quarter final was enough Was nice to see pics of Jordan Larsson on the Hampden turf, many years after his dad scored in the Scottish Cup final in his last season for Celtic. He probably won't get on the field tonight, but it would be quite the story if he came on and scored the winner. With Mikael Lustig also back in Glasgow, Sweden can count on the support of the green half of Glasgow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 hours ago, VamPook said: : thup : "we've got what Ronaldo didn't have, Coca-Cola" Coke would love that sort of promotion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, RubenJ said: That’s utter nonsense isn’t it. Look at his career so far. A couple of bad matches don’t erase the fact he’s had one of the best careers any 22-year old has ever had at that age. My point was he is not a good finisher despite getting hyped for exactly that. He is fast and can do nice assists, yes. But when it come to finishing he is not up there with the best like Lewa or Haaland or even Griezmann... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_jagster Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Carambau said: My point was he is not a good finisher despite getting hyped for exactly that. He is fast and can do nice assists, yes. But when it come to finishing he is not up there with the best like Lewa or Haaland or even Griezmann... He makes up for it by creating space for shots like virtually no other footballer and making his chances easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_jagster Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: Oh no, I missed that part. How are Switzerland supposed to have any chance against Spain without him? He was sensational. He could have been sent off, he pulled someone's shirt back when he was already on the yellow and the ref decided to ignore it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carambau said: My point was he is not a good finisher despite getting hyped for exactly that. He is fast and can do nice assists, yes. But when it come to finishing he is not up there with the best like Lewa or Haaland or even Griezmann... Didn't see him finish for the offside goal against Germany? He had a great game that match, terrible for the rest of the tournament, but France basically was as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfair Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tikka Mezzala said: Was nice to see pics of Jordan Larsson on the Hampden turf, many years after his dad scored in the Scottish Cup final in his last season for Celtic. He probably won't get on the field tonight, but it would be quite the story if he came on and scored the winner. With Mikael Lustig also back in Glasgow, Sweden can count on the support of the green half of Glasgow! Yeah that's what they've been saying. With the covid situation and Swe fans not being allowed into Scotland we need all the support we can get. But yeah no Jordan tonight. Hopefully no Lustig either as he's struggling imo but our coach isn't famous for making a lot of changes so I'm sure he'll play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Carambau said: I dont know what all the Mbappe hype is about. All he can do is run fast. Every time I see him shoot he misses the goal (and often by a mile) even if he is in a promising situation alone on goal etc. (The Champions League final against Bayern comes to mind where he received the ball 12 m in front of clear goal and all he was able to do was to roll the ball back to Neuer). And despite being fast as lightning, even grandpa Hummels was able to tackle him and get the ball back. This is a terrible hot take that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. His conversion rate for all shots is better than 1 in 4. That's world class level finishing 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuko Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 France in shambles, cool stuff by the Swiss last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, themadsheep2001 said: This is a terrible hot take that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. His conversion rate for all shots is better than 1 in 4. That's world class level finishing Ok. You are right. I am wrong. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I did call Mbappe to miss his penalty before the shoot out started but it just wasn't his tournament at all. He did get a few assists and look unplayable at points but he gets that goal V Germany and who knows what would have happened was playing like he had a lack of confidence in his shooting from game 2 onwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Wasn't his night at all. Even his assist to Benzema was lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 We could probably make a really good Euro 2020 Fraud XI Mbappe Bruno Dias de Ligt Kane (but he can come out after his hat trick later) Hazard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carambau Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said: We could probably make a really good Euro 2020 Fraud XI Mbappe Bruno Dias de Ligt Kane (but he can come out after his hat trick later) Hazard Gundogan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coulthard's Jaw Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Edited June 29, 2021 by Coulthard's Jaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, Carambau said: Gundogan Well now you've gone and done it haven't you 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Looks so much better in video form....and just 2 minutes difference it seems too a6E8qVm_460sv.mp4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Doesn't help when you have Deschamps going full CL Pep by suddenly changing formation and bringing in Lenglet. Which literally backfires straightaway. Was also so irritated by how Rabiot started so many games. And of course as mentioned so many times, the whole 2nd gear thing. Just strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Why does everyone keep saying they were playing in second gear, after 4 games have people ever thought that what we have seen was France's level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I feel like France have been playing in 2nd gear since the start of the last World Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Reggiana said: Why does everyone keep saying they were playing in second gear, after 4 games have people ever thought that what we have seen was France's level? Defensive gameplay, attacking in spurts. Just always looked like they only upped a level when they could be bothered to. A lot of peeps seem to have concluded it's a Deschamps thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 It might be a Deschamps thing, they looked exactly the same in the World Cup except for Argentina game where Argentina were set up perfectly for them to counter attack against. But if it is a Deschamps thing, why would it suddenly change during the middle of a tournament? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 That's just my opinion from only watching them this tournament, so it seemed a total waste of their squad Much akin to Southgate's England tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggiana Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, VamPook said: That's just my opinion from only watching them this tournament, so it seemed a total waste of their squad Much akin to Southgate's England tbh That's fair enough, it certainly should be possible to get that group of players playing better football, I just don't think it's possible with the current setup. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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