DJ Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) UEFA are probing into the possibility of fining DFB/Neuer for wearing a rainbow coloured captain's band. Quote According to the statutes of the European association, political statements are forbidden at events such as the European Championship – and as such the officials consider Neuer’s rainbow armband to be. https://then24.com/2021/06/20/neuer-wore-a-rainbow-band-uefa-threatens-european-championship-penalty-dfb-reacts-we-are-colorful/ Things may come to a head if DFB/Allianz Arena indeed follow the call by many fans and even the Munich City Council for lighting up the Allianz Arena in the rainbow colours when Germany play Hungary. UEFA forget one thing: by making a choice to not speak out against homophobic measures like in Hungary, you also make a clear political statement. You may want to ignore politics, but politics never ignore you. Really, UEFA? Are you ready for a 5h1tstorm over that? Edited June 20, 2021 by DJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukey Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 They've already gone back on this Ridiculous it even went anywhere of course. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 That's good news. And gives leeway for the Allianz Arena action, too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony85 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I thought the stadiums were in the hands of UEFA officials for the duration of the tournament? So even if the DFB wanted to change the colours UEFA would just overule them and make sure it didn't happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony85 said: I thought the stadiums were in the hands of UEFA officials for the duration of the tournament? So even if the DFB wanted to change the colours UEFA would just overule them and make sure it didn't happen? As said: if they actually thwart this, there will be consequences. The 'no politics allowed' excuse does not hold water in this situation. PR nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HopOnBaby Posted June 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ever since people actually sympathised with Uefa and rallied around them over the whole Super League debacle, they've stumbled from PR disaster to PR disaster like Sideshow Bob in a field of rakes. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 It's more that they were out-scummed by the dirty dozen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopOnBaby Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Haguey said: It's more that they were out-scummed by the dirty dozen True - the dictionary definition of the lesser of two evils. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 it's not a political statement ffs. UEFA have the final say about the stadium colors as the organizer, but they'd have some 'splaining to do. Best way would be if the Hungarian team would go on the record that they're in favor of it. My guess is UEFA will find some technical reason why they can't be arsed and backlash ensues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 It's just come out (har har) that UEFA will not allow it. HOMOPHOBIC SCUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carambau Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 They should do it nevertheless. THAT would be a brave statement! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 6 hours ago, HopOnBaby said: like Sideshow Bob in a field of rakes. This is my new favourite metaphor. I'm going to steal it and use it all the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, DJ said: It's just come out (har har) that UEFA will not allow it. HOMOPHOBIC SCUM Hah, I knew it. What's the reason they're giving? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Something about a unified stadium design across the board. As thin an excuse as you've ever heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/uefa/posts/343055147189953 UEFA asks: If you could play at one UEFA EURO 2020 venue, which would it be? Time to post this picture all over the question, like hundreds are doing right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 UEFA refused a request to light up Allianz Arena in rainbow colours. I'm sure they'll find a way around it. Rainbow flags for fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony85 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Heartwork said: UEFA refused a request to light up Allianz Arena in rainbow colours. I'm sure they'll find a way around it. Rainbow flags for fans? Again - this would never happen. As wrong as it is for UEFA to take this stance - they are in charge of the venue during this tournament and have their people in place. Unless you got a rogue employee who would probably lose their job or worse nothing will get done in the stadium without their approval. That's the point I was making above about how it doesn't matter what the DFB want so it was pointless trying to press them to do it as they have no control over the stadium throughout the tournament. You've also got to keep in mind that UEFA have been in talks with Hungary about possibly taking the semi / final if they can't get the UK government to give into their demands so they're unlikely to do anything to upset them even if there was the will to do it (which there isn't). Edited June 22, 2021 by Tony85 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Tony85 said: Again - this would never happen. As wrong as it is for UEFA to take this stance - they are in charge of the venue during this tournament and have their people in place. Unless you got a rogue employee who would probably lose their job or worse nothing will get done in the stadium without their approval. That's the point I was making above about how it doesn't matter what the DFB want so it was pointless trying to press them to do it. You've also got to keep in mind that UEFA have been in talks with Hungary about possibly taking the semi / final if they can't get the UK government to give into their demands so they're unlikely to do anything to upset them even if there was the will to do it (which there isn't). Would they stop fans carrying their own rainbow flags and banners in though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 I see a nice trend developing: this empty 'keep politics out of football' argument that many use, is easily countered by 'look up 'forbidden team clashes' and tell me again that UEFA keeps politics out of football', is informing loads and loads of people about what hypocritical arses UEFA are. Mainly the unwashed uninformed masses that are not as informed as we football nerds are. As I said earlier: consequences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, DJ said: I see a nice trend developing: this empty 'keep politics out of football' argument that many use, is easily countered by 'look up 'forbidden team clashes' and tell me again that UEFA keeps politics out of football', is informing loads and loads of people about what hypocritical arses UEFA are. Mainly the unwashed uninformed masses that are not as informed as we football nerds are. As I said earlier: consequences. To be fair there are a couple of forbidden team clashes where it would literally be a bloodbath if they played each other e.g. Armenia - Azerbaijan. Others just seem petty e.g. Spain-Gibraltar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 It's being reported that the stadiums of Berlin, Cologne and St Pauli will show rainbowcolours during the match. More likely to follow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 14 hours ago, DJ said: https://www.facebook.com/uefa/posts/343055147189953 UEFA asks: If you could play at one UEFA EURO 2020 venue, which would it be? Time to post this picture all over the question, like hundreds are doing right now. Lots of players tweeting this image, Griezmann and Sarabia the latest. This is going quite badly for UEFA. In addition to your post, apparently Munich are going to deck the city in Rainbow colours anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, DJ said: It's being reported that the stadiums of Berlin, Cologne and St Pauli will show rainbowcolours during the match. More likely to follow. No surprise St Pauli are going for it. Famously left wing, previous chairman was openly gay, so it's an issue they care about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) I dont get either side of this one to be honest. Why do Germany want to do this? And why are UEFA trying to stop them? imo, if Germany want to do it then let them. Edited June 22, 2021 by av3ry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Found the context. The Germans should grow up, what Hungary do in parliamanet has nothing to do with them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 UEFA have sided with the homophobes because they want to move the final to Dictatorland. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, av3ry said: Found the context. The Germans should grow up, what Hungary do in parliamanet has nothing to do with them... Everyone knows the context. Except UEFAs decision goes against its own creed if you look it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, themadsheep2001 said: Everyone knows the context. Except UEFAs decision goes against its own creed if you look it up I honestly thought it was to do with Pride Month that was why my initial post was if they want to do it, UEFA should let them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 The solution is easy IMO: The stadium gets lit up anyway. UEFA hand out one of their famous 100 Euro fines, like the ones they hand out for racism in stadiums (oh, nothing done about the recent events during the Euros yet? Odd. ) and clearly state they have to but do fully understand the sentiment. But they don't even have the guts to do that, do they? Somehow, pandering to a tinpot dictator is more of a priority... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Yeah it's not just about the decisions in Hungary. Hungary had their racist, homophobic ultras in the stadium for their last match, and no one stopped them. This is part of showing it's not ok and UEFA have got it badly wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Tony85 said: Again - this would never happen. As wrong as it is for UEFA to take this stance - they are in charge of the venue during this tournament and have their people in place. Unless you got a rogue employee who would probably lose their job or worse nothing will get done in the stadium without their approval. That's the point I was making above about how it doesn't matter what the DFB want so it was pointless trying to press them to do it as they have no control over the stadium throughout the tournament. You've also got to keep in mind that UEFA have been in talks with Hungary about possibly taking the semi / final if they can't get the UK government to give into their demands so they're unlikely to do anything to upset them even if there was the will to do it (which there isn't). Christopher Street Day Germany and Amnesty International have teamed up to provide 11,000 rainbow flags for the audience. No word on how exactly they will be distributed, but it'll be colorful inside the stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 hours ago, DJ said: I see a nice trend developing: this empty 'keep politics out of football' argument that many use, is easily countered by 'look up 'forbidden team clashes' and tell me again that UEFA keeps politics out of football', is informing loads and loads of people about what hypocritical arses UEFA are. Mainly the unwashed uninformed masses that are not as informed as we football nerds are. As I said earlier: consequences. UEFA about as neutral as Franco's Spain during WW2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 The "political" argument (not relating to this) I would understand, as UEFA will be clumsily desperate not to offend anyone. But this is one of those things that if that is their thinking, then they probably stand to offend far more with inaction. And then "compromising" by saying, "it's ok guys, we're great with you doing that, but could you just do it when we're not there" is all a bit "I'm not a homophobe, but..." really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, The Amazing Dale Watkins said: Christopher Street Day Germany and Amnesty International have teamed up to provide 11,000 rainbow flags for the audience. No word on how exactly they will be distributed, but it'll be colorful inside the stadium. Good. I was hoping something was gonna happen inside the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 21 hours ago, DJ said: I see a nice trend developing: this empty 'keep politics out of football' argument that many use, is easily countered by 'look up 'forbidden team clashes' and tell me again that UEFA keeps politics out of football', is informing loads and loads of people about what hypocritical arses UEFA are. Mainly the unwashed uninformed masses that are not as informed as we football nerds are. As I said earlier: consequences. Well well, quite some patting on the back there. I don't think this is how it works though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2019... 2021........nah. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 They really are a bunch of cretins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 When will people stop calling this sort of stuff political? It has nothing to do with politics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I would like to see Germany take this one step further and threaten to boycott the World Cup in Qatar. We all know about the atrocities happening in Qatar while the stadiums are being built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused Clarity Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ackter said: When will people stop calling this sort of stuff political? It has nothing to do with politics. It becomes political when governments make it political and then organising bodies don't want to upset those governments when they're desperately wanting to maintain a stadium in that country as a backup for the Semi Final and Final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Confused Clarity said: It becomes political when governments make it political and then organising bodies don't want to upset those governments when they're desperately wanting to maintain a stadium in that country as a backup for the Semi Final and Final. Because they're scum. It's still not a political issue and we shouldn't let them get away with pretending it is one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, av3ry said: I would like to see Germany take this one step further and threaten to boycott the World Cup in Qatar. We all know about the atrocities happening in Qatar while the stadiums are being built. You saw what happened to Norway. They were thinking about it and were immediately threatened with being excluded from the next WC. If this is going to happen, ALL countries (or at least a number of significant ones) should do that. Talk about politics. Clubs like Bayern go there every winter to train, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordan Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 So let me get this straight......asking is political, saying no is not political? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 UEFA desperately trying to contain the fallout. Sorry, but that ship has sailed, and you don't get to drape yourself in rainbow colours without looking like utter hypocrites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Focking UEFA man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopOnBaby Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 They've made their bed now - asking was political, so just doing rainbowy stuff in/on the stadium without asking falls within their boundaries of acceptability as it's supporting #EqualGame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartwork Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 All UEFA have done is amplify it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orzelek Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 WTF were they thinking? I'd be fine with the "no politics or religion in football", if they were totally consistent about it. But that would beside no rainbows require no kneeling, no 100% Jesus headbans, no poppies and so on. But as it's now, there's only problems with displays that would hurt UEFA's image or bank account. And the UEFA logo in rainbow colours afterwards is the worst attempt of doing a publicity stunt I've seen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 If I was Germany, I would say **** UEFA, just light the stadium in rainbow colours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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