Brexit in Wales

[AllyJoseph]

Hi, I'm wondering if this is a bug, a feature or how brexit has actually worked. I believed that Brexit had a definitive outcome now and it seemed to be pretty mild considering the doom and gloom that was suggested.

I've got a TNS save currently and I'm trying to sign an Irish u21 Jonathan Afolabi, he was born in Dublin, however he has failed a work permit. I was under the impression that UK and Ireland were classed as not needing work permits in the existing system, is this different in Wales? Is it still RNG which Brexit you end up with? Is this a bug?

Little help please!

[FrazT]

As far as I am aware, Ireland, although part of the EU has special status as far as post-brexit work permits are concerned and so one would not be needed for an Irish citizen.  If the Wales FA use the same rules as the rest of the country ( maybe best to check ) then it could be a bug.

[Speedyol]

I have played a lot in wales and I can guess that you didnt offer him a large enough wage or the transfer fee was too small. Try giving him more wages and he will get a work permit. The rules states that they need to play regularly on the international team of their nation, and if not then they use these rules:

Note that if you pay him a large wage, you get 3 points from the first line and 2 points from the second line. and that is more than the required 4 points.

Edited June 19, 2021 by Speedyol

[FrazT]

1 hour ago, Speedyol said:

I have played a lot in wales and I can guess that you didnt offer him a large enough wage or the transfer fee was too small. Try giving him more wages and he will get a work permit. The rules states that they need to play regularly on the international team of their nation, and if not then they use these rules:

Note that if you pay him a large wage, you get 3 points from the first line and 2 points from the second line. and that is more than the required 4 points.

I thin that the issue is not why his application was rejected, but that as an Irish player, with special status as an Irish citizen, he doesn't need a WP in the first place.

[Speedyol]

The United Kingdom or Britain consists of England, Wales, Scotland and North Ireland. And Ireland is outside of Britain. So I would think he needs a work permit to work inside "The UK" and also for TNS in Wales.

"Northern Ireland remains legally in the UK Customs Territory and part of any future UK trade deals. This results in a de jure customs border on the island of Ireland, between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland."

[FrazT]

After Brexit as I mentioned above, the UK and Irish governments worked out a special status deal to give Irish citizens free access to the UK without needing a work permit.  This is not available to other EU citizens.

Details:

British immigration system from 2021[edit]

On 11 November 2020, the Immigration Act 1971 was amended by adding "An Irish citizen does not require leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom". The Act repeals free movement rights for other EU citizens from 1 January 2021, but makes exceptions for Irish citizens.^[49][50] Guidance from the government also states: "Irish citizens will continue to be able to enter and live in the UK as they do now".^[51][52]