Darius1998 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Baptista_8 said: Was that honestly a 'great' performance from Sterling? Great run for the goal but I thought he was very, very poor apart from that? I thought he was terrible apart from that but didn't want to ruin the mood of English fans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) Said all along Mings will be fine as backup. Enjoyed some of hipster football journo Twitter calling for Ben White to start though. Edited June 13, 2021 by arenaross 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Don't want to sound like a hater, but considering how poor Croatian forwards have been, your backline was far from impressive. I guess Maguire will solve some issues. There was noticable lack of communication and potential panic in some situations that shouldn't be threatening. Walker was abysmal, I don't see the point of him being a starter ahead of Shaw and Trippier playing on the right. Phillips was impressive. Kane needs to be the leader England needs him to be. Absolutely had to bury that chance for 2-0. In big games, those misses will cost you. I think England can do way better, but Southgate will probably think he found the winning formula. The reality is that he played against probably the worst coach in the tournament. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 In a game where attacking players struggled to make an impact, Sterling looked the most active attacker. A good goal, and he done some good tracking back. Arguably Phillips and Modric stood out more, but in terms of impact, Sterling won it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Sterling not even close terrible. Look at Kane FFS 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arenaross Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Kane just not match fit do we think? He was awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldy Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Legend says, the ball Sterling skied just flew over Paris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, arenaross said: Kane just not match fit do we think? He was awful. Probably wasn't. But...I think Kane gets away with the "wasn't fit" excuse more than other top players. He's been poor in quite a lot of important games now. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, EnterUsernameHere said: Probably wasn't. But...I think Kane gets away with the "wasn't fit" excuse more than other top players. He's been poor in quite a lot of important games now. Lukaku > Kane, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Moores Mum Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Croatia's coach is your dad throwing a suit jacket over his £3 Primark t shirt and calling it smart casual. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIR17 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Lukaku > Kane, tbh. Nah. That's just trying way too hard to get hipster cred points. Lukaku is great when you build the team round him, because he's the best at what he does and running into space, but Kane is clearly the better all round player. I cannot imagine Kane struggling so much to fit into Chelsea or ManUtd's style of play like Lukaku did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I don’t think Kane suits games in the heat like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Adam said: I don’t think Kane suits games in the heat like this. The opposite of a fair weather player then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunmaN1905 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, MIR17 said: Nah. That's just trying way too hard to get hipster cred points. Yeah, I'm baiting. Quote Lukaku is great when you build the team round him, because he's the best at what he does and running into space, but Kane is clearly the better all round player. I cannot imagine Kane struggling so much to fit into Chelsea or ManUtd's style of play like Lukaku did. He's not the same player he was when he left MUTD. But this was more of a direct comparison, Belgium played Croatia just a week ago and he absolutely bullied Car and Vida whole game long, they couldn't do anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Was that honestly a 'great' performance from Sterling? Great run for the goal but I thought he was very, very poor apart from that? I mean, he could score a hat trick and you'd say that he was terrible. Very, very poor is so hyperbolic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Sterling made several great runs that stretched the opposition in a way nobody else in the squad could. Has to play. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, ajw10 said: I mean, he could score a hat trick and you'd say that he was terrible. Very, very poor is so hyperbolic Ever get sick of condescending people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterUsernameHere Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, ajw10 said: I mean, he could score a hat trick and you'd say that he was terrible. Very, very poor is so hyperbolic As was you calling England great... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Sterling was ok. Enough to start next game for me. He did that thing he does where he was both good and bad again. But I'm so pleased he scored. Got so much stick recently. If I had to pick someone from that starting 11 to score only goal in a 1-0 win I'd go Sterling all day. Especially after the WC where he couldn't score but did well everywhere else. Phillips MOTM. Mount 2nd for me. Mount does those things you normally don't notice. Basically presses superbly and doesn't lose the ball. He will play every minute of these Euros. Mings needs a mention too, exceeded expectation. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: Ever get sick of condescending people? You think that was condescending? Not even close. You have a big problem with Sterling and adore Grealish. You are always going to criticise Sterling no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, ajw10 said: You think that was condescending? Not even close. You have a big problem with Sterling and adore Grealish. You are always going to criticise Sterling no matter what. You make it sound like I have a personal issue with Sterling which I don't. He just frustrates me as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Is Dave going on about Sterling again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Phillips take a bow, commanding performance in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said: Don't want to sound like a hater, but considering how poor Croatian forwards have been, your backline was far from impressive. I guess Maguire will solve some issues. There was noticable lack of communication and potential panic in some situations that shouldn't be threatening. Walker was abysmal, I don't see the point of him being a starter ahead of Shaw and Trippier playing on the right. Phillips was impressive. Kane needs to be the leader England needs him to be. Absolutely had to bury that chance for 2-0. In big games, those misses will cost you. I think England can do way better, but Southgate will probably think he found the winning formula. The reality is that he played against probably the worst coach in the tournament. Croatia were ***** in all fairness. A cart horse like Rebic as the threat, Modric carrying him zimmerframe around, Perisic remembering that he is pretty crap at shooting. All credit to England but thats not beating a good croatia side. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc91 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Baptista_8 said: You make it sound like I have a personal issue with Sterling which I don't. He just frustrates me as a player. He was overall very threatening albeit would have liked to have seen Grealish on, but then again Sterling scored so what do I know. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMOZZA Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 As I said earlier without the ball Sterling is a great and gets on the end of things well. But it's just frustrating knowing that most of the time when he has to do something with the ball it's inevitably going to go wrong. Correct choice for today with his ability to get in behind but might not be the correct choice playing against a team that will sit back and defend deeper and with more players behind behind ball than Croatia did today. Bigger concern for me would be Foden's anonymity after the first 10 or 15 minutes. Just didn't really seem to be able to affect the game from the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, CMOZZA said: As I said earlier without the ball Sterling is a great and gets on the end of things well. But it's just frustrating knowing that most of the time when he has to do something with the ball it's inevitably going to go wrong. Correct choice for today with his ability to get in behind but might not be the correct choice playing against a team that will sit back and defend deeper and with more players behind behind ball than Croatia did today. Bigger concern for me would be Foden's anonymity after the first 10 or 15 minutes. Just didn't really seem to be able to affect the game from the right. I don't get how you can be described as a top class winger and have glaring limitations with the ball in your game. Surely we can ask for more from our starting winger to have great runs off the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallen Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, CMOZZA said: Correct choice for today with his ability to get in behind but might not be the correct choice playing against a team that will sit back and defend deeper and with more players behind behind ball than Croatia did today. Bigger concern for me would be Foden's anonymity after the first 10 or 15 minutes. Just didn't really seem to be able to affect the game from the right. Sterling has scored 13 in his last 17 England games playing mostly against teams that sit back and defend deep against us. Agreed on Foden. No coincidence that we scored shortly after he started playing with a bit more freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMOZZA Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smallen said: Sterling has scored 13 in his last 17 England games playing mostly against teams that sit back and defend deep against us. Agreed on Foden. No coincidence that we scored shortly after he started playing with a bit more freedom. True, but would I be right in thinking most of them would be 2nd, 3rd or 4th goals of games we were already ahead in? Might need a different approach in tournament football I'm delighted he scored today, just trying to make a case for a different approach for different opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Bigwig said: Not sure how Henderson gets back into the side here. He shouldn't. 3 hours ago, GunmaN1905 said: Even in a game with no difficult situations, Orsato is lost. When he pulled the yellow card out on Foden despite not blowing for a foul when it happened was a proper clown shoes moment from him. Thought he had a good game otherwise but that really stood out. 2 hours ago, pearcey_90 said: Oh come on, outside that one move for Sterling goal, what have we done this half? We’ve sat off at the start, scored, sat off. Overall game play been poor this half compared to your Italy/Belgium. Italy you can have but not having Belgium. They played the second half at a complete training pace last night, think they only had one shot in the second half and that was right at the end. 2 hours ago, Mr Adam said: ****ing Sterling listening to music for his interview. So rude Daily Mail have their front page story for tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I don't really know why Foden was on the right, we know he's absolutely at his best in the middle or on the left with license to roam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Also it isn't that Sterling has massive limitation, he's just not quite at his best. Amazed at the stick he's getting considering the ineffectiveness of a couple of others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Plus, he did actually score the only goal with a great bit of movement. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Haguey said: Plus, he did actually score the only goal with a great bit of movement. With the kind of run you'd have been wanting from Kane...who might as well have not been on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguey Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said: I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary Crap, flaky, old, crap in that order imo. Easy stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikka Mezzala Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Pompeyboyz said: I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary You'll have to face them at some point if you wanna win this. And make no mistake, neither of those sides will want to play England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluedave Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 We'd have home advantage too. We could easily lose to one them or we could beat them but who knows. I don't think you should over think it. Just try to win every game 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Adam Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary Unfortunately the alternative to wining the group now is likely a defeat to Scotland or Czech Republic, I’d rather go into a second round game against one of those unbeaten and with confidence than a “lesser” nation feeling vulnerable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1981 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Hungary are finishing second in that group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
av3ry Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary I'd rather they played all the knockout games at Wembley rather than have to jet off to Denmark and Russia for the first two knockout games which is what the 2nd place side will have to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said: I know we are all happy for the win, but has everyone looked at who awaits in the 2nd round should we win the group? Germany, France or Portugal....or unlikely as it is Hungary Think we're all well aware of that, just have to take it a game at a time and try and win every one, can't be trying to avoid a win to get a lesser team in the next round or whatever, that is nonsense and a poor mentality. Line 'em up etc. 4 minutes ago, Rob1981 said: Hungary are finishing second in that group. They've lost their best player, they'll finish bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggressive minor Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Tripper at left back when you have Chilwell/Shaw is not a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, aggressive minor said: Tripper at left back when you have Chilwell/Shaw is not a good idea I think one of Shaw/Chillwell will be back in at LB for the next two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptista_8 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, craigcwwe said: They've lost their best player, they'll finish bottom. Two home games with 60k fans (no COVID restrictions I believe) though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearcey_90 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 3 hours ago, themadsheep2001 said: England win their opening game, something we're not very good at, against probably their stiffest competition in the group, in searing heat and comfortably so. It was a good performance that could do with some tweaks. Literally no one called it spot on FFS. You're making argument against something that doesn't exist Making an argument like you dismissed 2 years ago Man Utd are not 2-3 signings away, yet each year you put that. Goal posts move so much with you it’s laughable. Good performance... sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinji Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Sterling also assisted the early Foden chance where he hit the post, with a run/turn into space from a throw and then a decent ball through. I know he can be frustrating at times but I'd look at this as even when not playing at his best he still scored a goal and nearly got an assist. I do agree saying he was terrific today is OTT but I thought he was overall pretty good and he is a starter for me in most games, while accepting others may be better choices in some matches depending on opposition and tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, pearcey_90 said: Making an argument like you dismissed 2 years ago Man Utd are not 2-3 signings away, yet each year you put that. Goal posts move so much with you it’s laughable. Good performance... sure. No idea what you're on about now pearcey, but if you're gonna be a dick this early in the tournament, it's a hard pass engaging with you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadsheep2001 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, aggressive minor said: Tripper at left back when you have Chilwell/Shaw is not a good idea He was actually decent, but agree. Wonder how much rotation we will do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcwwe Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, themadsheep2001 said: He was actually decent, but agree. Wonder how much rotation we will do I'm thinking Shaw/Chillwell come in at LB on Friday night. Walker retains his place at RB and then Trippier starts the third group stage game at RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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