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The 4th Uprising - "To My Narod Slaski"


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You’re back with another career! This one sounds quite interesting, both from the challenge of turning the club around and all the rivalries and politics. Even if the politics can’t really show up in game, Ive learned from my Livorno save that it can certainly add depth to the narrative.
I’m looking forward to learning more about Polish football and now I’ve already learned about the Silesia region and it’s unique identity in Poland.

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5 hours ago, 13th Man said:

You’re back with another career! This one sounds quite interesting, both from the challenge of turning the club around and all the rivalries and politics. Even if the politics can’t really show up in game, Ive learned from my Livorno save that it can certainly add depth to the narrative.
I’m looking forward to learning more about Polish football and now I’ve already learned about the Silesia region and it’s unique identity in Poland.

Thanks! Yeah I love to learn as much as possible about the club. And all the politics and rivalry’s are key to the background of the club. 
On a side note my last Easter European save from last years game was Banik Ostrava another Silesian team! 
 

1 hour ago, Sheriff7 said:

Welcome back.;)

Thanks as always mate 👍🏻

 

8 minutes ago, deltablue said:

Interesting idea.

Thanks. I like my fallen giants. But this one has me really excited due to the depth I’ve been able to add from the research. I haven’t even got to the stage of showing the manager permutations and how that’s increased rivalry as well and also made the challenge more testing 

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As a Polish-American I will be following this very closely, while most people are aware of the politics of the Silesian region, I didn't realize the striking similarities between Ruch Chorzow, Athletic Bilbao, and Barcelona. I hope you will make something of these links in this save. I'm really looking forward to how this goes!

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Interested as always in your work.

I have continued playing the Grenoble save, but moved clubs and brought Nesselquist Ball to Torino in Italy. I just don't have the time to write.

But I will probably start another "Career" after school finishes for the year and I get grading done. 

Until then I will await updates with much impatience!

 

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Great to see the thread finally up, especially knowing how much thought and research you've put into this. Best of luck mate!

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2 hours ago, Fudal said:

As a Polish-American I will be following this very closely, while most people are aware of the politics of the Silesian region, I didn't realize the striking similarities between Ruch Chorzow, Athletic Bilbao, and Barcelona. I hope you will make something of these links in this save. I'm really looking forward to how this goes!

Glad to hear that! I will try my best to do so! There policy isn’t as strict as bilabo as am not limited to only Silesian players but there is of-course a heavy bias towards them which I’ll do my best to recreate. 

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12 minutes ago, Rikulec said:

Great to see the thread finally up, especially knowing how much thought and research you've put into this. Best of luck mate!

Thanks very much! Well after all my questions and queries you have known it’s been in the waiting for a while. There is only one surprise coning for you. 

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14 hours ago, SixPointer said:

Thanks! Yeah I love to learn as much as possible about the club. And all the politics and rivalry’s are key to the background of the club. 
On a side note my last Easter European save from last years game was Banik Ostrava another Silesian team! 

Definitely deepens the immersion when you get into the history etc.  And yeah, I'm only a recent regular on the site (I think I started lurking on the tactics board right around your Atalanta tactics thread mid COVID, not sure) so Odd was the first career of yours that I followed...and I was even late to that.

14 hours ago, Fudal said:

As a Polish-American I will be following this very closely, while most people are aware of the politics of the Silesian region, I didn't realize the striking similarities between Ruch Chorzow, Athletic Bilbao, and Barcelona. I hope you will make something of these links in this save. I'm really looking forward to how this goes!

Well, I guess I'm not most people!  I'm generally knowledgeable about history, but I'm realizing that Eastern Europe is my blank spot when it comes to both history and geography...Now I get to learn more even than I expected from this thread.  (In case this comes off as passive aggressive - because internets - it's really not!)

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1 minute ago, 13th Man said:

Well, I guess I'm not most people!  I'm generally knowledgeable about history, but I'm realizing that Eastern Europe is my blank spot when it comes to both history and geography...Now I get to learn more even than I expected from this thread.  (In case this comes off as passive aggressive - because internets - it's really not!)

I meant that most people of Polish descent know about Silesian politics, but don't worry you didn't come off as passive aggressive! 

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55 minutes ago, 13th Man said:

Definitely deepens the immersion when you get into the history etc.  And yeah, I'm only a recent regular on the site (I think I started lurking on the tactics board right around your Atalanta tactics thread mid COVID, not sure) so Odd was the first career of yours that I followed...and I was even late to that.

Well, I guess I'm not most people!  I'm generally knowledgeable about history, but I'm realizing that Eastern Europe is my blank spot when it comes to both history and geography...Now I get to learn more even than I expected from this thread.  (In case this comes off as passive aggressive - because internets - it's really not!)

Well this style off football coming up will be a little different to Odd

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46 minutes ago, nie jem frytek said:

Yeah the date of the article I used caught me out there!! Pardon me and I apologise to all PIAST FANS. I didn’t mean any detriment to there achievement!  I did find research of Silesian football pretty scarce considering how successful it is. but I do apologise for this 🙃

 

 

4 hours ago, karanhsingh said:

Interesting concept, best of luck with this!

thanks very much  

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12 hours ago, john1 said:

Good luck :D Will keep a close eye on this :thup: 

Thanks my man should hopefully have a update out tomorrow with a manager choice 

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I love when people from europe put an effort to do a polish save (like secondyellowcard did with building a nation with polonia warszawa) so huge respect with doing all the research.

The club you've chosen it's perfect for fallen giant type of save, top 3 in all-time polish table, club with really good reputation and decent facilities and fantastic potential (competitive region and clubs nearby).

They had 3 consecutive relegations from top tier to 4th tier so it's quite remarkable really.

And in Chorzow there is former national stadium - Stadion Śląski, former home of polish national football. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Stadium

 

And I'd add two more former players to the mix 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michał_Helik current Barnsley starter, current international (atm rotation rather than first team but with decent potential)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Warzycha - known poland due to him being Ekstraklasa top scorer in 88/89  in Ruch's shirt, but he's a Panathinaikos legend, their top scorer and probably one of the best foreigners to play there. Unfortunately, he wasn't really that good in national team which is a shame really.

His most iconic goal

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1 hour ago, Bigpole said:

I love when people from europe put an effort to do a polish save (like secondyellowcard did with building a nation with polonia warszawa) so huge respect with doing all the research.

The club you've chosen it's perfect for fallen giant type of save, top 3 in all-time polish table, club with really good reputation and decent facilities and fantastic potential (competitive region and clubs nearby).

They had 3 consecutive relegations from top tier to 4th tier so it's quite remarkable really.

And in Chorzow there is former national stadium - Stadion Śląski, former home of polish national football. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Stadium

 

And I'd add two more former players to the mix 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michał_Helik current Barnsley starter, current international (atm rotation rather than first team but with decent potential)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Warzycha - known poland due to him being Ekstraklasa top scorer in 88/89  in Ruch's shirt, but he's a Panathinaikos legend, their top scorer and probably one of the best foreigners to play there. Unfortunately, he wasn't really that good in national team which is a shame really.

His most iconic goal

I always invest a lot of time in my club choice and research. I had fancied ruch on FM20 but opted for Banik Ostrava due to a trip I took to the Czech Republic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Warzycha I’m sure I read somewhere that the fans turned against him as he wanted money due to him during a crisis time with moneys. I heard the  psycho fans weren’t best pleased. 

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Can't wait to be reading through this journey! Any initial ideas how you are going to set up your team tactically?

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38 minutes ago, haier_fm said:

Can't wait to be reading through this journey! Any initial ideas how you are going to set up your team tactically?

all will be revealed shortly :brock:

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The 4th Uprising - To My Narod Slaski

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Manager News

I really put a lot of effort it’s this part of my start up. I strive for as much realism as possible throughout the game. Therefore, I always play as a real-life manager rather than create a fictional character. I take some time trying to find someone that matches the ideals and plans for the save ahead, then edit that real person out of the game and match them as best of my ability when making my manager. I also use the editor to create real life scenarios to move the current manager out of the way if he has been successful the season before. Special thanks to @Rikulec who helped vastly here but in the end he is in for a surprise also...

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Skra Czestochowa have relieved the manager of his duties.......

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Lukasz Bereta finished 3rd last season with Ruch Chorzow, narrowly missing promotion some feat from a 29 year old in his first season at the helm. This however has done enough to secure a move up a division and a small move north. His assistant who has been with him throughout his short manager career has joined him. Ruch were compensated 20K which is what they would get after my research off trying to hire him.

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As you can see its not a long journey. Keeping himself within the Silesian Voivodeship. Not a direct rival to Ruch, however the bigger club of Czestochowa, Rakow are a rival so. The reason I made this club choice for him to go to was geographical and also performance based as Skra had a poor second season after promotion into the second division so it was time for a freshen up.

Now who is the man to fill the void......

The search actually took a ridiculous amount of time so much so that I considered playing as the current manager. A few key things I was looking for :

  • Silesian born or at least had ties to the club in the past, or even another Silesian club
  • A good age to be taking on this kind of task anything over 40 was out. I tied in with the clubs pervious young appointment
  • A good attribute spread to suit the football I wanted to play but still with work to be done
  • Someone who already had manager experience
  • Not from higher up in the leagues due to being unrealistic

Doesn't seem a lot to ask for, well you would be surprised at the shortage of candidates. Some ex players looked good ideas before digging deeper. Then I settled for a manager who was mentioned as favourite for the job but he had very little Silesian ties which made me abandon the save. The main reason being when looking at a striker at a club in the division I checked the manager and found someone who ticked everything.

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Manager Info

This guy ticks nearly every box, think the only thing missing was he never played for Ruch Chorzow. Nice attribute spread along with the correct level of coaching badges. He played almost his whole career at one club and almost the whole time in upper Silesia. A former lower league striker who turned caretaker manager the under 18 then first team its already a nice progression.

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Born in nearby Knurow he is no stranger to goings on in the region and the significance of football here. A small 18 minute drive would have him at the home of Ruch Chorzow. Also in the picture is Rybnik which is where he has spent most of his footballing life. A town well know for its coal mining exploits and energy sources is shares many of the same kind of people as Chorzow.

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Almost like for like, A few tweaks had to be done to make it work, on the coaching side the goalkeeping is superior. On the mental side both knowledge brackets are probably higher than what I would imagine his to be. But you have to use up the points so best I can do.

Playing Style

I had a few ideas here but seeing as Odd was more a counter attacking type of style I thought well its time to test myself in other ways. So am looking to play possession football, I don't want to nail it down to tiki taka am more going down the root towards total football.  A few reasons I want to try implicate positional play there for creating overloads, rotations of positions etc. I don't want to replicate Pep but of course he is the master of it as much as I admire his style when I play I tend do go more Kloppish. Coupled with all this I plan on being more detailed with my training, and player development I usually keep this to myself and instead keep to a story now I plan on showing more of how I play the game much like I do with my tactics. Training wise am going to try follow tactical periodisation coupled with my usual individual regimes along with this am going to try and create a club DNA much like I did at Heerenveen.

  • First touch
  • Passing
  • Technique
  • Anticipation
  • Composure 
  • Decisions
  • Off The Ball
  • Teamwork
  • Vison
  • Balance

These will be the key attributes I desire for every player, now of course in the polish 4th tier their will have to be some room for manoeuvre. The level wont be blessed with complete players, but I feel it adds to the challenge and the story as the leagues are climbed the style improves and leads us to becoming the best technically gifted football side in Poland which @Rikulec stated isn't well know for teams playing this certain way bar a small showing from Lech Poznan. I don't have any systems as off yet but I have a few ideas noted down.

What is Positional Play? - YouTube

What is Positional Play? – Breaking The Lines

Positional Play & The Third Man Concept (developingthefuture.club)

» Understanding the Tactical Periodization Methodology (spielverlagerung.com)

What is Tactical Periodisation? - YouTube

These resources will be quoted and screenshotted throughout the save when it comes to specific aspects of the save.

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Great Stuff!

Nesselquist ball is alive and well in Italy....

Slovakia is my next updates destination for which I should start posting sometime this week.

Training is important. Are you going the "Luzern" route?

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I’ve been away from FM for a week or so and have missed this but…wow. A wonderful opening. Personally, with not a huge amount of time left on the ‘FM cycle,’ I couldn’t get as involved as you have here! Will be following with interest. 

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I played in Poland on an earlier FM a while ago now, and one of the things I built up was getting Poland to have 3 Champions League spots. I left Poland when all my star players wouldn’t resign, leaving me short of getting the 4th spot. Was trying to overtake either France or Portugal in 5th (can’t remember who now).

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6 hours ago, Hootieleece said:

Great Stuff!

Nesselquist ball is alive and well in Italy....

Slovakia is my next updates destination for which I should start posting sometime this week.

Training is important. Are you going the "Luzern" route?

The plan is to play low tempo anti nesselball. 
 

Luzern definitely gave inspiration to the training idea. Also the slight tweak in the writing style. 

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3 hours ago, _Ben_ said:

I’ve been away from FM for a week or so and have missed this but…wow. A wonderful opening. Personally, with not a huge amount of time left on the ‘FM cycle,’ I couldn’t get as involved as you have here! Will be following with interest. 

Well Odd had went bored on me. The plan is to update less frequently but with more key information so I can keep up game speed. 

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2 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

I played in Poland on an earlier FM a while ago now, and one of the things I built up was getting Poland to have 3 Champions League spots. I left Poland when all my star players wouldn’t resign, leaving me short of getting the 4th spot. Was trying to overtake either France or Portugal in 5th (can’t remember who now).

It’s somewhere I’ve long looked into so am no ready to give it a good go. Sounds like you had done well with it! 

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5 hours ago, haier_fm said:

I really like how you have set up your save. Good luck on this, will be supporting all the way from Leipzig!! :lol:

Thanks man. It’s been a good start! Just needing some time to write up the first instalment 

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