EURO 2020(1?) football forum average draft

[XuluBak]

I'll consider it a win if I don't wake up at a ridiculous time one morning, realize I'm on the clock, and draft a couple players from the wrong continent. 

[Darius1998]

Depends when my picks come around. I can manage if it's within 8pm GMT but would probably be asleep or picking completely random players if it's after that.

Then again, Kawee and adhikapp are in time zones that are even further ahead.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Darius1998

[Barry Cartman]

If anyone is worried about not being around for their pick, they can always PM the person after them with a few choices so they can add your pick for you

[GunmaN1905]

Alright, time to get things going.

Draft rules:

Max 1 player per nation

Max 2 players who won the EURO

Max 3 more players who appeared in semi-finals or final

For tournaments before 1980, you can select any player from nations that appeared in quarter-finals since there are no official squad lists. Players that played during those years, obviously. List of quarter-finalists for those tournaments is in spoiler:

Spoiler

1960:

1964:

1968:

1972:

1976:

For 1980 and after, you can select players from 23 man squads for those tournaments. As for winners and semi-finalists, anyone in 23man squad counts as one, regardless if he made an appearance in those games.

If you pick a player who played for more than one country, you use your slot for both of them, also applies to three countries mentioned below.

Rules for countries that split up at some point, Czechoslovakia, USSR and Yugoslavia:

Spoiler

 

If you pick a player who played for the union pre-split, you fill up the slot for the old country and his primary nationality country.

Blokhin for example means you used up your USSR and Ukraine slots. But you can still pick someone from post-split Russia, like Arshavin.

Note that Yugoslavia in 2000 was actually Serbia and Montenegro, so they don't count as old Yugoslavia, but Serbia.

Meaning you can pick a Croatian, Bosnian etc who played for pre-split Yugoslavia and a Serbian from EURO 2000.

Snake draft. 1st through 29th pick, then back around from 29th to 1st.
Because we have more teams than usual, from second round onwards, everyone picks two players per round.
First round is still only one player because otherwise it would be too big of an advantage for players with good starting spots.

Active hours picking window is from 8am to 10pm British time. During that window, you have 4h to pick after you get mentioned, otherwise you're penalized.
If you miss your 4h window during active hours the following player picks for you. You're at their mercy. If you're good friends with them, maybe you get another top class player for your team. If not, then enjoy an iconic member of 2004 Latvia team or maybe a scrub who lucked his way onto top country's roster, meaning you lost a slot for that country.

Same penalty applies if you mess up and break the team selection rules. The next contestant picks your player. But beware, if that player messes up picking for you, he also get penalized. This is a no nonsense draft.
Rules have to be followed!

Players who're not in European time zones can message me with up to 5 players for their next pick if they think that it will be their turn during active hours when they're not around.

When we get to knockout phase, winner can take 2 players from losing team. All within team selection rules, obviously.

Since we got 29 players I'm not sure if we should do knockouts with 3 BYEs or make groups with people voting for group order. But there will be time for that.

As for now, let the draft commence!

Draft order:

1. Weezer
2.Darius1998
3.Barry Cartman
4. Jorg
5. bestbrother
6. Baptista_8
7. Hazzaj
8. grff
9. Marius_R
10. PaulHartman71
11. Kawee
12. The Golden Boy
13. Butts
14. Haguey
15. Citizen Kane
16. Yuko
17. sjg11
18. adhikapp
19. managerdude_66
20. SLR88
21. Sano
22. trueblue.85
23. SouthCoastRed
24. MaxeyN17
25. Harryseaess
26. Scott1892
27. Crispypaul
28. XuluBak
29. Muzzza

@Weezer @Darius1998@Barry Cartman@Jorg@bestbrother@Baptista_8@Hazzaj@grff@Marius_R@PaulHartman71@Kawee@The Golden boy@Butts@Haguey@Citizen Kane@Yuko @sjg11@adhikapp@managerdude_66@SRL88@Sano@trueblue.85@SouthCoastRed@MaxeyN17@Harryseaess@Scott1892@Crispypaul@XuluBak@Muzzza

GLHF!

 

Edited May 17, 2021 by GunmaN1905

[SRL88]

8 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Draft rules:

2 players who won the EURO

3 more players who appeared in semi-finals or final

In regards to these two rules, is that the maximum we’re allowed, or the minimum we must have?

[Citizen Sandman]

I need an adult

[GunmaN1905]

3 minutes ago, SRL88 said:

In regards to these two rules, is that the maximum we’re allowed, or the minimum we must have?

Maximum.

[Barry Cartman]

2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Maximum.

I'd put this in the rules, makes it sound like you have to select them 

[GunmaN1905]

Just now, Barry Cartman said:

I'd put this in the rules, makes it sound like you have to select them 

I edited it.

[PaulHartman71]

And away we goooo

[Yuko]

Middle of the pack.. Is that good or bad?  

[Barry Cartman]

78 players are going to be picked between my 1st and 2nd pick  

[GunmaN1905]

2 minutes ago, Yuko said:

Middle of the pack.. Is that good or bad?  

Depends on how you build the team.

Top positions can get the best of the best with their first pick, but by the time it's back to them, everyone has 3 players.

 

3 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

78 players are going to be picked between my 1st and 2nd pick  

That's why it's called average draft.

We always ended up with superteams and those Maradona-Messi-Neymar attacks.

[adhikapp]

Let the shambles begin!

I can expect myself contributing to the shambles 

[bestbrother]

Are we picking a full XI? Or just 6 players in total?

Or is the 6 players just a limit of those rules, then the other 5 can be anyone from any team, not in that criteria?

[GunmaN1905]

2 minutes ago, bestbrother said:

Are we picking a full XI? Or just 6 players in total?

Does that really have to be put in the rules?

Quote

Or is the 6 players just a limit of those rules, then the other 5 can be anyone from any team, not in that criteria?

It's 5 players within the rules.

2 winners and 3 more semi-finalists.

Then other 6 who didn't make it to semi-finals.

And 1 per nation.

 

Is my English that bad when it comes to explaining things or are you people just trolling me?
I can't comprehend that rules are so difficult to understand?

Edited May 17, 2021 by GunmaN1905

[Barry Cartman]

1 minute ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Does that really have to be put in the rules?

It's 5 players within the rules.

2 winners and 3 more semi-finalists.

Then other 6 who didn't make it to semi-finals.

And 1 per nation.

 

Is my English that bad when it comes to explaining things or are you people just trolling me?
I can't comprehend that rules are so difficult to understand?

tbf you haven't really made it clear in the rules what the criteria is for the other 6 players

I assume the other 6 have to have been part of a Euro squad at some point, i.e you can't select a certain young some would say best player in the world because he hasn't played at a euro yet 

[bestbrother]

2 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

Does that really have to be put in the rules?

It's 5 players within the rules.

2 winners and 3 more semi-finalists.

Then other 6 who didn't make it to semi-finals.

And 1 per nation.

 

Is my English that bad when it comes to explaining things or are you people just trolling me?
I can't comprehend that rules are so difficult to understand?

No its probably me, I skim read everything in life. Anything that challenges my brain, I switch off

 

[SouthCoastRed]

6 minutes ago, bestbrother said:

No its probably me, I skim read everything in life. Anything that challenges my brain, I switch off

 

It's been noted 

[GunmaN1905]

6 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

I assume the other 6 have to have been part of a Euro squad at some point, i.e you can't select a certain young some would say best player in the world because he hasn't played at a euro yet 

<.<

Did you read the part about 1980 and onwards tournaments and 23man squads?

And pre-1980 quarterfinalists?

[Barry Cartman]

8 minutes ago, GunmaN1905 said:

<.<

Did you read the part about 1980 and onwards tournaments and 23man squads?

And pre-1980 quarterfinalists?

Yeah but you make it sound like those are the rules for the 5 players, might want another bullet point just simply saying 'Min 6 Players from any previous non semi final/final squad' 

[Marius_R]

9th in the draft, not great, not terrible. 

[Baptista_8]

2 minutes ago, Marius_R said:

9th in the draft, not great, not terrible. 

But much closer to great considering there are 29 teams

[PaulHartman71]

2 minutes ago, Marius_R said:

9th in the draft, not great, not terrible. 

 

We’re draft neighbours again! 
 

Kawee being before me the other side should mean I’m making more picks in the morning than evening I imagine. 

[Marius_R]

4 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

 

We’re draft neighbours again! 
 

Kawee being before me the other side should mean I’m making more picks in the morning than evening I imagine. 

Yes, I meant to say that, I was between you and Kawee in the other draft, now we're us three again, but in a different order. 

Edited May 17, 2021 by Marius_R

[Barry Cartman]

I won the last draft from 3rd spot as well

[Barry Cartman]

@Weezer

Incase he doesn't know he's 1st  

[MaxeyN17]

First ever draft and I've genuinely never been more confused. 

[Butts]

I really don’t think it’s confusing, now watch me make a complete shambles of it 

[PaulHartman71]

5 minutes ago, MaxeyN17 said:

First ever draft and I've genuinely never been more confused. 

I think I’ve done in excess of 50 and my brain is struggling to compute the logistics  

Shambles are guaranteed 

[Weezer]

Thank god my first pick is an easy one  

Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)

Not sure on the formatting we’re going for?

[SouthCoastRed]

19 minutes ago, MaxeyN17 said:

First ever draft and I've genuinely never been more confused. 

Yeah as Paul said we’ve done loads, and we haven’t a scooby either, you’ll be fine 

[Weezer]

@Darius1998

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, Weezer said:

Thank god my first pick is an easy one  

Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)

 

Booooo 

[SouthCoastRed]

 

1 minute ago, Weezer said:

Not sure on the formatting we’re going for?

29 players, OCD Cartman will be going into meltdown by Tuesday week 

[Barry Cartman]

Its not hard to understand to be fair, I think Gunman in his inexperience with making these types of threads, is expecting 29 people to read a big bunch of text, whereas I struggle to get people to read a 1 line bolded underlined rule  

Basically

• Pick a Squad of XI
• Only players who have been part of a Euros Squad can be picked 
• Max of 1 Player Per Nation
• Max of 2 Players who have won the Euros as part of a Euros Squad
• Max of 3 players who reached at least the Semi Final as part of a Euros Squad (the players you picked as winners don't count towards this)
• Round 1 Users pick 1 player, Round 2 onwards they pick 2 players at a time in the usual snake 

Then theres a bunch of stuff about players who played for different nations etc that people can read about on their own if they care

[Butts]

6 minutes ago, SouthCoastRed said:

Yeah as Paul said we’ve done loads, and we haven’t a scooby either, you’ll be fine 

That's just the memory loss kicking in though.

[Darius1998]

Going to put this in the format:

1. Weezer - Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal);
2. Darius1998 - Robert Lewandowski (Poland);
3. Barry Cartman
4. Jorg
5. bestbrother
6. Baptista_8
7. Hazzaj
8. grff
9. Marius_R
10. PaulHartman71
11. Kawee
12. The Golden Boy
13. Butts
14. Haguey
15. Citizen Kane
16. Yuko
17. sjg11
18. adhikapp
19. managerdude_66
20. SLR88
21. Sano
22. trueblue.85
23. SouthCoastRed
24. MaxeyN17
25. Harryseaess
26. Scott1892
27. Crispypaul
28. XuluBak
29. Muzzza

@Barry Cartman

[SouthCoastRed]

1 minute ago, Butts said:

That's just the memory loss kicking in though.

What? Kicking in where?

[Barry Cartman]

Weezer: 1. Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal);

Darius1998: 1. Robert Lewandowski (Poland);

Barry Cartman: 1. Lothar Matthäus (Germany);

Jorg:

bestbrother:

Baptista_8:

Hazzaj:

grff:

Marius_R:

PaulHartman71:

Kawee:

The Golden Boy:

Butts:

Haguey:

Citizen Kane:

Yuko:

sjg11:

adhikapp:

managerdude_66:

SRL88:

Sano:

trueblue.85:

SouthCoastRed:

MaxeyN17:

Harryseaess:

Scott1892:

Crispypaul:

XuluBak:

Muzzza:

[Barry Cartman]

@Jorg

Anyone who posts any other format should have players taken off them

[PaulHartman71]

7 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

Its not hard to understand to be fair, I think Gunman in his inexperience with making these types of threads, is expecting 29 people to read a big bunch of text, whereas I struggle to get people to read a 1 line bolded underlined rule  

Basically

• Pick a Squad of XI
• Only players who have been part of a Euros Squad can be picked 
• Max of 1 Player Per Nation
• Max of 2 Players who have won the Euros as part of a Euros Squad
• Max of 3 players who reached at least the Semi Final as part of a Euros Squad (the players you picked as winners don't count towards this)
• Round 1 Users pick 1 player, Round 2 onwards they pick 2 players at a time in the usual snake 

Then theres a bunch of stuff about players who played for different nations etc that people can read about on their own if they care

Yeah to be fair I get the rules now, just my brain struggles to process all of this at once and without doing a massive shortlist and cross referencing would be hard to work out who’s won the Euros, made the Semis etc and when as I can’t remember. I’ll just have to double check before I make picks after the 4th or 5th round  

[Marius_R]

Just now, Barry Cartman said:

@Jorg

Anyone who posts any other format should have players taken off them

You'll have a lot of work to do. 

[PaulHartman71]

Lewandowski a great shout as an early pick to be fair 

[Barry Cartman]

5 minutes ago, Marius_R said:

You'll have a lot of work to do. 

I probably won't get to pick again until next week  

[SouthCoastRed]

10 minutes ago, Barry Cartman said:

@Jorg

Anyone who posts any other format should have players taken off them

And so the ranting begins. 

[SRL88]

@GunmaN1905

We need to have words about your spelling of my name. Not sure who this SLR guy is  

[XuluBak]

19 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

Lewandowski a great shout as an early pick to be fair 

True. 

[Barry Cartman]

15 minutes ago, SRL88 said:

@GunmaN1905

We need to have words about your spelling of my name. Not sure who this SLR guy is  

Shambles! 

Fixed 

[Darius1998]

Jorg hasn't even been on the site today. This could take a while.

As for Lewandowski, I picked him as I thought I wouldn't get a prolific striker by the time it returned to me and it lets me get one of the non-semifinalist nations out of the way early on too. Probably end up getting some duds from the bigger nations at the end though.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Darius1998