rizaulait2 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Hello everybody, I am seeking a bit of help to understand what I am doing wrong. I am a new player to the game, and I am really interested in the tactics bit. As I like to approach the stuffs logically, I would like to start with the basics: simple 442, before moving to the more complex formations and concepts like overloads etc. Therefore, I am managing Oxford City in Vanrama South. LL is perfect for 442. I restarted 2x the save. First time it went good; until it didn't. I was on losing streak and no way to bring morale back up again. So I restarted and focused on keeping morale high, as I thought I was a bit too focused on going through the games without taking care of that part. But somehow in the new save, whatever I do, I just suck. Which makes me wonder, maybe my good form on first save was just luck, and tactic is basically bad. So what do I want to do? Simple 442 with as less PI/TI as possible and simple roles as I am lower league. It is also a good exercise to really focus on duties Do I want possession? No, not necessarily. I find the nice counter attack with 3-4 passes and nice off the ball work by all these sprinkling guys quite beautiful. But I also want to be able to create something in case the other team let me have the ball (here we can maybe talk about adjusting the tactic after 20-30mn of game) I don't want to have 20 chances, but I want 2 or 3 with good xG Therefore, I need to be very solid in defense. I am not going to score 4 goals and conceide 3. I want to score the 1st one on counter, and then eventually use the space which is opening up through the increase of mentality of the other team to score many more So where do I go from that? I start from defense: I want to be very solid. So I need to be compact (narrow), but also a bit deeper to let them come and avoid over the defense ball (you can find tall guys but slow, or small guys but fast in those leagues) I don't want to win back the ball too much up the pitch: pressing urgency on basic settings to preserve the shape, and lower line of engagement In transition: Counter obviously I used distribute to full backs but I removed it as it might hamper this GK kick above the defense (my GK has a 12 in kicking) I also used distribute quickly but my GK has very bad passing stats in game (40% passes), so I removed it again. In possession: Work ball into box, as my guys started to shoot to the moon in the last 20m while in long possession (but here probably vecause I have not enough movement in such phases) So here we go: CD on defense FB on support. I want them to be focusing first on defense, and make the forward run when it is safe Wingers on attack. By having one of them on Support, nothing happens in the game. No replay except the ones of IA scoring against my frozen CD CM in support. Here I wanted an easy role. For duty I set one on defense at first, but the other CM su was left alone in possession to control midfield. A little bit of pressing and we faced a deadly counter attack (5th tier teams all playing 433 gegenpress ). With both CM on support, I still have the nice 2 lines in front of the box out of possession DLF su and Poacher on attack. AF gave me way too much offside. Probably too low attributes of my players. I feel the DLF is coming too much down the pitch and leaves the P a bit alone. Here are the results: I am again facing a losing streak. I don't want to again tweak and click every single button after every lost game (which is what I always do), as I feel it will confuse my players. I think I made some good signing, here is the report of my assistant: Thank you for any suggestion and advice. I feel I would lose something by downloading standard gegenpress tactics online. I need this intellectual challenge. BUt having a few advices from experienced guy might help me understand where I am missing something. And get better. Long term I would like to get up the divisions and let this 442 evolve with some wing play once I find players able to handle it. By maybe taking control of possession (or at least not let it to the other side on purpose). Creating overload on one side, having the playmaker in midfield to orient the ball to the other empty flank. That is for the long run but I am almost discouraged that I can't handle the simpliest 442 LL counter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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