ObeLisk Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) My Inside Forwards are constantly shooting in the penalty area with their weak feet and wasting net goal positions. Could it make more sense to use a Inside Forward using the foot of the wing they're on? And how would you suggest me to play with this team? Edited February 4, 2021 by ObeLisk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Can you post screenshots of your inside forwards' player profiles? Btw, I think team instructions are more of a problem in your tactic than roles and duties (generally speaking). For example, an instruction such as pass into space does not make much sense in an aggressive tactic like yours (because there probably is not enough space for the instruction to be effective). A number of other instructions are not necessary either. For one, when you use too many instructions at the same time, it's much harder to figure out where the source of a problem is and what you need to tweak if/when things don't work. In terms of roles and duties, the only role that I personally would be inclined to change in this particular setup is the BBM into some that would bring more stability in the midfield and serve as a ball-recycling outlet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObeLisk Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Experienced Defender said: Can you post screenshots of your inside forwards' player profiles? Btw, I think team instructions are more of a problem in your tactic than roles and duties (generally speaking). For example, an instruction such as pass into space does not make much sense in an aggressive tactic like yours (because there probably is not enough space for the instruction to be effective). A number of other instructions are not necessary either. For one, when you use too many instructions at the same time, it's much harder to figure out where the source of a problem is and what you need to tweak if/when things don't work. In terms of roles and duties, the only role that I personally would be inclined to change in this particular setup is the BBM into some that would bring more stability in the midfield and serve as a ball-recycling outlet. Edited February 4, 2021 by ObeLisk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObeLisk Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 These are the offensive and defensive attributes of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I think you may be congesting play a bit too much, so here I agree with the feeling that the BBM should be changed. You've created a front 4, with the Mezzala joining the attack. You don't need another player joining in and could use a player to help the DLP to retain and recycle possession in the middle. With two players able to hold onto the ball and recycle possession, you should be able to draw out the opposition a bit more and that should mean a bit more space for the front 4 (plus a fullback or 2) so that's why I'd recommend looking at that change. With more space (in theory) your IFs might be able to cut inside onto their stronger foot easier. Alternatively, what about having them swap positions during the match? It'll mix things up and potentially ask more questions of the opposition fullbacks having to defend inside sometimes and outside other times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Experienced Defender Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, ObeLisk said: Okay, these 2 guys are both good for the IF role, so tweaks suggested by Hunt3r and myself are more likely to help solve your issues than doing something specifically with the players themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObeLisk Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Experienced Defender said: Okay, these 2 guys are both good for the IF role, so tweaks suggested by Hunt3r and myself are more likely to help solve your issues than doing something specifically with the players themselves. 1 hour ago, HUNT3R said: I think you may be congesting play a bit too much, so here I agree with the feeling that the BBM should be changed. You've created a front 4, with the Mezzala joining the attack. You don't need another player joining in and could use a player to help the DLP to retain and recycle possession in the middle. With two players able to hold onto the ball and recycle possession, you should be able to draw out the opposition a bit more and that should mean a bit more space for the front 4 (plus a fullback or 2) so that's why I'd recommend looking at that change. With more space (in theory) your IFs might be able to cut inside onto their stronger foot easier. Alternatively, what about having them swap positions during the match? It'll mix things up and potentially ask more questions of the opposition fullbacks having to defend inside sometimes and outside other times. Thank you both. Finally, how can I beat this damn line-up team :D they beat me in both matches with this formation. Because of these I missed the champions league at the last minute. Even the front trio seems to be positioned behind in the analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfds89 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, ObeLisk said: Thank you both. Finally, how can I beat this damn line-up team :D they beat me in both matches with this formation. Because of these I missed the champions league at the last minute. Even the front trio seems to be positioned behind in the analysis. There are no formulas and such bottom heavy teams are hard to score against. However, my take on it: drop the lines - if you want to press high up the pitch, you are going 3x7+GK. They can pass it around, and most likely they are playing cautious or defensive mentality so they'll be happy to do it. Lower the tempo as well so your FBs have the time to get to attacking positions. You might also want to change the duty of your support CM to Defensive or drop him into DM-strata (so when they recover you have 4x3 on defence). Your free players are your wing-backs so focus play on the sides and having them on attacking mentality can help. And force them outside and press and tackle hard on their wingbacks. That's where you are most likely to win the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegmelnikov Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 I'm not tactical genius as Experienced Defender, but sometimes I prefer to adapt a winger to Inside forward role. For example, to learn "Cuts inside from left wing" for Reiss Nelson. It can give more width for your team play and can work pretty nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On this topic, how bad/detrimental is it for an inside forward to be "wrong" footed? I use an inside forward on the AMR position, and I spotted a good player on end of contract. However, he is rightfooted only. How much will this be a hindrance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfds89 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, eXistenZ said: On this topic, how bad/detrimental is it for an inside forward to be "wrong" footed? I use an inside forward on the AMR position, and I spotted a good player on end of contract. However, he is rightfooted only. How much will this be a hindrance? It might not be a problem. Depends how you create your chances. My Left IF has 1 chance every other game where he's narrow and dribbles outside so he has to shoot with his outer foot (left, in this case), so it helps him to have a decent left foot. However, if you want him to be a creator and dribble inside with the ball, then he better have a good inside foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXistenZ Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, lfds89 said: It might not be a problem. Depends how you create your chances. My Left IF has 1 chance every other game where he's narrow and dribbles outside so he has to shoot with his outer foot (left, in this case), so it helps him to have a decent left foot. However, if you want him to be a creator and dribble inside with the ball, then he better have a good inside foot. isnt it also depended on his role/instruction? In my case my IF/AMR is on support, so he leaves space for the overlapping fullback (AT), who then has more space and time to provide the cross. The issue is just that my current IF/AMR options are only average for the league i'm in (I got promoted) and don't do well, hence why I am eyeing a replacement. The guy I have on my list is just allround a better player, but I'm a bit worried about the right foot screwing him over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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