under review Player Analysis and Player Statistics don't match

[Timetxu]

Hi, 

I've just played this game and there seem to be quite some differences between the statistics you find per player under player analysis and under player statistics.

 

An example:

In this player analysis table, it says Peres and Vormer have made 2 and 6 key passes respectively, but when I go to the player statistics screen:

It says Peres and Vormer have made 3 and 9 key passes respectively. What does this mean?

 

I have also noted a difference in determining "chances created". You could sort based on "chances created" in FMT20, but in FMT21, there's only "clear cut chances created" and "half chances created". I don't know the definitions of these. What I'm interested in is the actual chances created, ie: a pass that led to a shot on goal. That's what "chances created" means. It's not only not there anymore, but sometimes when I select a "clear cut chance created", the highlight just shows a player randomly passing to another player, who then passes to someone else and then the highlight ends. There's obviously something wrong with the mechanic to count these chances, because this happens to me nearly every game.

[Harrison Modeste]

Hi @Timetxu,

Apologies for the delayed response.

We're aware of this issue and it's being investigated by our Dev Team. If there's an issue with which highlights are being shown that would be a separate issue so if you could offer us some more details then we can investigate that separately. 

I've listed a few definitions for you below to improve your understanding:

Key Pass is defined as "any pass that leads to a shot, not from a set piece".

Clear Cut Chances Created is "Where a player directly creates a clear cut chance opportunity for a team-mate".

Half Chances are "Where a player has a chance to score with a reasonably high expected goal value".

Thanks,

Harrison

[Timetxu]

On 05/02/2021 at 21:47, Harrison Modeste said:

If there's an issue with which highlights are being shown that would be a separate issue so if you could offer us some more details then we can investigate that separately. 

Hi Harrison,

Thanks for getting back to me. I've made a gif of a moment that was included as being a CCC, but ended up in being a highlight not leading to something that is a CCC in my eyes.

 

In this highlight, Casemiro gets credited with the CCC. He passes to Carvajal, who then dribbles into the box and gets fouled by the leftback and gets rewarded with a penalty kick. He never really had a clear shooting angle, so I guess the CCC gets credited due to it leading to a penalty kick, but it feels a bit weird this is seen as a CCC.

Edited February 10, 2021 by Timetxu

[Harrison Modeste]

Hi @Timetxu,

I'm pretty sure you're correct that because he completed the final pass before the penalty incident occurred he was credited with the CCC.

This is likely an issue for football stats in general and not just FM, but I'll forward this on anyway as there's some debate to whether you should be credited in similar incidents to this; although this is quite a niche example so isn't too much of an issue.

Thanks,

Harrison

[Timetxu]

Hi Harrison,

Some other moment that I considered a quite vague CCC popped up:

In this one, Jota gets credited for a CCC, but this is the ensuing highlight:

It's weird how Jota gets the CCC and Alexander-Arnold does not. In the first place because Alexander-Arnold, if he had taken the shot by himself, was never in a CCC position. Second, because the pass didn't even lead to a chance and third, because the ensuing header by Mané did not get considered to be a CCC as Alexander-Arnold finished the game with 0 CCC's.

 

[Timetxu]

It seems like this match was extremely error prone, because this was the total amount of shots blocked defending. A nearly incredible amount of 18 (!) in a single game:

I randomly clicked one of them to see what they looked like:

I feel like something is off whenever stats get registered in the "analytical data" screen. I feel like I trust the "player analysis" screen more.

[Harrison Modeste]

Hi @Timetxu,

For the first instance above, Alexander Arnold may be shooting following the pass from Jota but this isn't something I can confirm.

The shots block defending is something that is currently being monitored by our team.

If you have any other match based queries it may be better for you to post in the following forum as they'll have a better understanding of the issues you present: https://community.sigames.com/forums/forum/822-match-engine-ai-and-tactics/

Thanks again,

Harrison