majesticeternity Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Posted on behalf of @joe5p, to help add media to the below mod. This thread is setup to capture UK & Irish media as part of a project to add them to the game in this mod: Media Overhaul for FM21 We have a lot of larger sources for England and Scotland, but the main gaps are with regional knowledge. For example, if you are from Yorkshire, please share the names of prominent local journalists and sources who wouldn't have a national profile. They could be staff who work only with BBC Yorkshire and/or local papers, but are well known to fans of football in that area. We can also add Irish, N. Irish, Welsh, or any other sources, but would need your help in capturing them. Before posting, if you want to check whether or not I have a source or journalist/pundit included already, feel free to PM @joe5p as it will save you time. To recommend a media source, please post with the following information: Name (mandatory): URL (optional): Hashtag (optional): Scope (mandatory): Club/Local/Regional/National/Continental/Worldwide/Competition Style (mandatory): Tabloid/Broadsheet/Formal/Casual/Popular/Analytical Type (mandatory): Newspaper/Magazine/Fanzine/Radio/TV/Website/Podcast/Social Media To recommend a journalist or pundit, please post with the following information: Name: (mandatory) Gender: (mandatory) Ethnicity: (optional) DOB: (optional) Nationality: (optional) Employer: (the media source they work for most – mandatory) Style: (mandatory) Sensationalist/Factual/Bland/Flamboyant Character: (optional, can be more than one): Experienced/cunning/dull/ill tempered/dishonest/nice Favoured Clubs: (optional) Extra Info: There are a few things to consider when trying to add media sources and journalists. Firstly, real life media input and that available in FM are massively different. Real life now sees pundits interviewing players and managers post-match, whereas FM has this restricted, to a degree, to traditional journalists. For an example of how real-life pundits/co-commentators impact the media narrative and manager behaviour, just see Neil Lennon’s press conference this week. The Celtic manager is firing off shots based on the comments of a Sky Sports co-commentator (Andy Walker), rather than just responding to traditional print media. In this update, pundits, journalists, fanzines, podcasts, and co-commentators can be captured and included. While a purest may think it is unrealistic for Roy Keane to ask a question at a press conference, it is probably more immersive and relatable than being asked by well respected but largely unknown journalists e.g., Gary Rose from the BBC. A wide range of print journalists will be included too, but the update will at least attempt to increase immersion by including the massive number of staff involved in the media that FM don't yet utilise. This should mean that those avid readers of The Athletic are just as likely to see their favourite writer ask questions as a more casual player who just wants the high-profile tv pundits to start talking about their team pre- or post-match. It is also true that some fanzines and fan-based podcasts now have access to official club press conferences. It is less clear how they are utilised in FM but they can be added in. The main problem is not being able to source the staff from podcasts that are fan based. Secondly, traditional journalists used to work for a single publication or source. However, it is now more common for them to work across sources e.g. The Athletic and a newspaper. A handful write for one source only. In FM they can only have one employer. The only workaround is to create multiple instances of the same person (seems counter intuitive). Those who are complete freelancers can be included under a source called something like Press Association (Scotland) or Associated Press (Wales). Stan Collymore comes to mind in the above category, in that his output rate in terms of observations and comments is really high, but he isn’t usually aligned to one mainstream source. For the above reason, people will be aligned to one source within this update, but this limits things slightly. As an example, Chris Sutton covers BBC Radio 5 Live and BT Sport in England, and Scottish football in depth via paper columns and punditry work with Sky Sports. He is most controversial in Scotland, but to have him in the game for both leagues would mean creating two different people named Chris Sutton as Radio 5 Live don't really cover Scottish football. There are loads of examples of this across print and online journalists and pundits. He would be added once to cover Scotland in this update. The only other issue is where a really prominent source like Sky Sports, covers different leagues with different staff. Jamie Carragher isn't going to ask the manager of Livingston a question IRL. If we keep Sky Sports as one source, it restricts creating a realistic add on, so for something like that, there would be Sky Sports, and Sky Sports Scotland. This will allow the likes of John Hartson, Kris Boyd etc to get involved in Scottish media interactions instead of running the risk of Kris Boyd asking Jurgen Klopp a question. In terms of time, I want this update ready as quickly as you do, but please don’t ask when/if it ready yet. I will work away on it as diligently as I can with the time I have available against work and family commitments. Edited January 21, 2021 by majesticeternity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jWaSiMhE Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 @majesticeternityWith regards to British Media & Journalists data I will be in touch with you shortly. I may be of assistance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe5p Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 (edited) For any English or Scottish football fans out there, it won't be long until I have finished a big update for majestic covering Scotland and England. The file already has a number of English sources and I have added the Scottish sources and a few others for England. If you are a fan of English or Scottish football and want the local/regional press for your team or the team you are managing to be added then can you please reply to state the name of the publication and I can take things from there. So far, the file majestic already has plus the pending update will cover the national media and some local (local mainly Scottish). Any fan based podcasts/fanzines are shown as fanzines in the list below. The main update is to the actual journalists/pundits which will extend to more than 350 across Scotland and England. I have also added around 10 well known bookmakers to add to the variety of those offering odds before games. Open to adding Welsh, Irish or N. Irish media too. List is long, so click to see in full. Spoiler Bookmakers (can't remember which were present and which I added) Coral (updated) William Hill (updated) Ladbrokes (updated) Paddy Power (updated) TonyBet Dafabet Betdaq Betfair Mr Green 32 Red Mansion Bet BetVictor Betway Unibet Quinn Bet Many others like Bet 365 were already in the most recent update. Scotland GO Radio Radio Clyde PLZ Football Podcast Heart and Hand (Rangers podcast) The Cynic (Celtic podcast) The Scottish Sun The Daily Record The Scotsman The National The Courier The Daily Telegraph The Press and Journal The Sunday Post Sky Sports Scotland (e.g. will only link with Kris Boyd, James McFadden etc and not the English Sky Sports branch) Premier Sports Sunday Mail The Telegraph - Scottish Edition Scottish Daily Mail Scottish Daily Mirror Metro - Scottish Edition Inverness Courier Alloa and Hillfoots Advertiser The Herald Hamilton Advertiser East Kilbride News Dumfries and Galloway Standard Cumnock Chronicle Kilmarnock Standard Edinburgh Evening News Falkirk Herald Dunfermline Press Greenock Telegraph Fife Free Press TheTwoPointOne Paisley Daily Express The Motherwell Times Open Goal (Casual podcast) Gersnet - Rangers fanzine Record Rangers - Rangers fanzine Celtic Underground - Celtic fanzine Aye Ready - Rangers fanzine Twenty Minute Tims - Celtic fanzine/podcast Various fanzines/podcasts for Hearts, Hibs, Killie, Motherwell, Accies, Dundee Utd etc. STV Glasgow Times (formerly Evening Times) The Times (Scottish Edition) BBC Radio Scotland BBC Scotland (online) Paisley and Renfrewshire Gazette Ayr Advertiser Clydebank Post Stirling News West Lothian Courier Totally Scottish Football Podcast Edinburgh Football Show England (where England has less sources at the moment, it has many more journalists and pundits to be included. Many on list are in most recent version but this update will add real journalists/pundits for those sources) Please get in touch to request more local English sources. BBC Radio 5 Live (already in file, plus loads of local BBC radio stations are there already) Sky Sports BBC Match of the Day BBC Sport (online) Liverpool Echo Manchester Evening News talkSPORT beIN Sports Bleacher Report BT Sport Daily Mail Mail Online The Independent The Mirror The Sun ESPN The Telegraph The Athletic Evening Standard (London) Evening Express The Guardian The Blizzard The Times The Mail on Sunday Edited April 6, 2021 by joe5p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyanimals Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 This sounds incredible! Cannot wait for this to come out. Your work on fm additions to improve realism is immense! huge thank you from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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