ThinkZebras Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Hi, After 6 seasons of progressively climbing the ladder with my team using these formations, I have bought several South American youngsters to improve my team (I suppose my team average was around 120-130 CA but I was beating teams like Tottenham/Real Madrid nonetheless). Now, I bought 10 young players (16-19yo) with immense potential (I'm assuming quite a few of them are 170+ PA, 4 of them are classified now - after a year of having them at club - as wonderkids), however, ever since I started to introduce them to my squad that is getting old (the youngster have quickly outgrown the U19 and B league in the country), my game started to be a show of wasted chances. Is this something they will grow out of (most of them have the Consistency mark, much better stats than my old players, and they have good personalities), or is that just revealing that my tactics were bad and were working because my old crew had already their playing style firmly set, not influenced that much by my "bad" instructions? (it's true that I had to shuffle the instructions every 5-10 matches in order to keep winning) To provide some background, here are the two tactics I use: Here I sometimes change the CM duo for DLP(s) and BBM, change the DM to a more defensive role when playing a superior team, also I occasionaly switch my CF to DLF(s) while changing my IF to attack duty. Occasionally I employ the "work ball into box" instruction if I feel they are wasting shots from far away. This is my second tactic, again, CF sometimes changed to DLF(s) with IF changed to attack. Occasionally I use the Work ball into box and typically I change to "mixed crosses". My attacking mezzala Gets into opposition area, the supporting mezzala Shoots from Distance (has 17 long shots and 14 technique) and Comes deep for the ball, while wingers Cut inside with the ball and Look for a pass rather than a shot. The aim of these is to play a possession based passing game (all my midfielders/forwards have an average of 15+ in passing+technique+vision, a lot of them Play one-twos), the CMs often Dictate tempo and Try long-range passes (I know I have "shorter passing" as TI, but I want them to occasionally surprise the opposition with a forward pass to a running winger/forward). Now, most of the time, they are wasting chances despite the players up front have 15+ finishing and typically also 15+ technique. However, my games look often like this (selection of 3 out of last 5 games, the other I lost to PSG in CL and we hardly got a kick, the fifth was a 1:0 victory where we scored from penalty - dominating possession, but not getting many shots/chances): The first one here I won 2:0, the other team didn't have a shot on goal. The second one I won 2:1, the second team had 3 shots total, 1 on goal (a 30m long shot). The third one I drew 2:2. The second game here looked like this when looking at shots (yes, we've hit the post 6 times!) - they shoot all over the place, it looks rather random to me instead of "shooting to score"... They are clearly shooting from good positions (centre of the box mostly), but many times miss an open goal. My front 3 (or 4) are always hitting the keeper from the small box while often times my midfielders don't have any problem to score from 30 meters if I allow them to shoot. I used to play with an AF instead of CF, but now my striker is not so good as AF, he's best as CF (should I retrain him? He's 19). Is that the reason why all my players are suddenly missing most of their opportunities, or is that because they are young (even though they have the consistent performer sticker)? Note that my AF was NOT they main source of my goals, he used to score no more than 15 per season at most (excluding domestic cups), but so did my AMR/L's and sometimes CMs, with even some of my defenders getting 10 goals (from headers in set-pieces/penalties). The scoring chances are there (at least I think based on what I'm seeing in highlights and analysis), but they are not converting them. The youngsters have much better stats than my old crew (some of which I've sold for good money, some of which I'm keeping as mentors as they are approaching 35). Also, their match ratings are not poor as I had gotten with my old crew when they wasted a lot of chances - this time all my attacking players have a 6.8 minimum, often 7+ ratings even if they don't score/assist (and the average ratings are 7.1-7.2 even with a 0:0 draw). An example of what type of chances they are missing (~2 per match against weaker teams and many more not so obvious chances) - the forward here has 15 finishing, 12 technique and 12 composure (not sure what other stats matter), keep in mind that those are crappy goalkeepers (this red team is oscillating between the First and Second league, the First league not even being among the top ten leagues in Europe): 2020-12-06 23-46-30 (online-video-cutter.com).mp4 I was thinking whether the ME evaluates my tactic and when it's bad, it doesn't let me score even though we create chances - whether that is its way of "communicating" the quality of my setup to me. I refuse to believe that this is just bad luck if it's consistently this way. (To also clarify the preference for these two formations - I just find it easiest to find players for these roles - I can find dozens of great AM's in my save, but getting a decent WB or defensive ML/R is a herculean task.) To clarify, we are still on top this season (in the league at least, not so much in the CL group), but I feel that judging by the way we are dominating each game, the scoreline should look very different. I know these setups are for a rather attacking football so I am well aware that I will concede from counter-attacks (especially against decent teams), however, I am not. I am conceding from "stupid" goals as they seem, e.g. headers from some 20m (see video) or shots from tight angle directly at my keeper, but instead of catching it, he "stumbles and falls down". Most of the time he doesn't get bad ratings for it and the ME doesn't consider such goals his fault, so it might be just the limited animation, I don't know. If I were conceding from counter-attacks, I'd not be dismayed (that is just my intended setup), but I have no idea how to reduce goals from situations like these. Despite my keeper being regularly acclaimed as the best keeper in my league (or at least used to be in last few seasons before my "shopping spree"), often times I feel he doesn't play football but dodgeball now... I guess the main reason I am puzzled is that I was able to dominate teams (or defend against better teams) with an inferior team (I was able to win the league undefeated once, last season I had 1 loss), why am I so much worse now that I got better players (2 losses already not even mid-season, quite a number of draws)? 2020-12-06 17-32-11 (online-video-cutter.com).mp4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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