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On 14/03/2021 at 12:45, TelcontarTargaryen said:

 I did all that, I am set as the person responsible for hiring and firing staff of all four Athletic teams. Can't figure it out.. the thing is I can actually hire staff, (although there is still problem of not being able to actually hire anyone for B and C teams cause board only allows low wages and no matter how low someone's reputation is, when I offer them contract for the Bilbao Athletic they demand at minimun €2.1k while the limit the board set is at €1.6k .. it is like it is hardcoded into the game for any coach to demand at least 2.1k .. even if he initially accepts 900€ for U19 coach position, when I try to change it B team, demands change to those that can not be met.
I digress, back to the topic, I can hire, or at least negotation with staff for B/C teams, but when I go to the staff tab on the left, only U19 and first team give me that view I mentioned with all the staff listed in 3 groups and will colour coded small silhouettes

Staff for the B and C teams are viewed in a different place to your first team staff.  As the earlier post says you should be able to see them under one of the tabs in the development centre.

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Just finished my first season finishing 4th. Williams is banging in the goals but I'm struggling to get any form out of Muniain.

 

I'm currently playing a 4231, any tips on how I can get more from him?

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Another quick question after the B team got promoted.

 

If I keep some youngsters in the senior squad and make them available for the B team will they be eligible to play for both the senior squad and the B team?

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Yes, but there are some limitations I think. Players under certain age (18 on the first of january of year X) can play freely, others have to be registered, and there is some limit to the number. Honestly I still haven't figured out what exactly are the rules, but I can make my players play for B / C / U19 team and senior squad. 
Also, C team doesn't have a league, so arrange A LOT of friendlies for them, ideally against similar or stronger opposition...

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On 17/03/2021 at 16:14, TelcontarTargaryen said:

Yes, but there are some limitations I think. Players under certain age (18 on the first of january of year X) can play freely, others have to be registered, and there is some limit to the number. Honestly I still haven't figured out what exactly are the rules, but I can make my players play for B / C / U19 team and senior squad. 
Also, C team doesn't have a league, so arrange A LOT of friendlies for them, ideally against similar or stronger opposition...

Once you get the B team into La Liga 2 then it's possible to get the C team in Segunda B.  My C team is currently in Segunda B.

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On 15/03/2021 at 01:45, TelcontarTargaryen said:

 I did all that, I am set as the person responsible for hiring and firing staff of all four Athletic teams. Can't figure it out.. the thing is I can actually hire staff, (although there is still problem of not being able to actually hire anyone for B and C teams cause board only allows low wages and no matter how low someone's reputation is, when I offer them contract for the Bilbao Athletic they demand at minimun €2.1k while the limit the board set is at €1.6k .. it is like it is hardcoded into the game for any coach to demand at least 2.1k .. even if he initially accepts 900€ for U19 coach position, when I try to change it B team, demands change to those that can not be met.
I digress, back to the topic, I can hire, or at least negotation with staff for B/C teams, but when I go to the staff tab on the left, only U19 and first team give me that view I mentioned with all the staff listed in 3 groups and will colour coded small silhouettes

I feel like there are quite a few bugs with this area...I think the wages thing is because you're negotiating it as Athletic Club manager, and they seem to respond based on Athletic's reputation rather than the B team or C team reputation.

In the end I just delegated all hiring/firing/contract responsibilities for b and c team to an appropriate staff member (e.g. technical director I think I used). I still controlled hiring the manager for the B team but that was about it. Any good players i have in those squads are training with the first team anyway

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On 18/03/2021 at 10:14, TelcontarTargaryen said:

Yes, but there are some limitations I think. Players under certain age (18 on the first of january of year X) can play freely, others have to be registered, and there is some limit to the number. Honestly I still haven't figured out what exactly are the rules, but I can make my players play for B / C / U19 team and senior squad. 
Also, C team doesn't have a league, so arrange A LOT of friendlies for them, ideally against similar or stronger opposition...

Rules:

Players who are 18 on 1st January of that season can move freely between teams. Players 19 or older can only be registered for one of the squads so you have to make a decision. If a player over that age starts in the first team and plays over 10 games, they can't be shifted to the B team in the registration windows. I don't think there's a limit to the number of 18 or under players you can/can't register.

Edit - I'm not sure if this is the correct implementation of real life to be honest, I think I've seen someone saying somewhere it's not correct in the game 

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The day has come!

I might be forced to sell Simon. He is not happy and wants to leave.

I have a bid from PSG for over €100 mill. I have to buy Remiro as replacement, as Kepa just left Chelsea for Lyon.

It is deadline day.

What should I do? :O

 

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21 hours ago, sindre_90 said:

The day has come!

I might be forced to sell Simon. He is not happy and wants to leave.

I have a bid from PSG for over €100 mill. I have to buy Remiro as replacement, as Kepa just left Chelsea for Lyon.

It is deadline day.

What should I do? :O

 

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How good is Alvaro Fernandez? Or Ivan Martinez? A step down sure but significantly so?

I'd sell for that amount, it's silly money.

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@dothestrand, Alvaro is not Basque. Martinez is my 2nd keeper, but far away from Simon's level. So the only available replacement now is Remiro. I have a couple of talented 17-year olds, but not good enough yet

Don't really need the money.... I will stick with an unhappy Simon. Can sell him later. Still 4 years left on his contract.

Final offer from PSG was €80 mill + €60 mill over 2 years. Since his clause is €142 in one time payment, it was rejected. Hopefully this will not destroy my squad, but everyone is happy except Simon.

Maybe som trophies will help things :)

 

 

 

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Sorry to sound so dumb and seem unaware of something I should've known before, but how exactly do I set up/search/filter for Basque players on the game? 

Im planning to start a save as Athletic but for the life of me couldnt get the basque filter going on, havent seen it anywhere in my game.

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19 hours ago, lugui said:

Sorry to sound so dumb and seem unaware of something I should've known before, but how exactly do I set up/search/filter for Basque players on the game? 

Im planning to start a save as Athletic but for the life of me couldnt get the basque filter going on, havent seen it anywhere in my game.

Go in under player search in the scout area and then choose edit search in the right corner and under Add condition choose nationality. After it choose Spain go back in and choose basque 😏

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I've started a Lezama only save. Having won a third title in six years and with a couple of dozen of youngsters developed internally or poached from other academies, I've decided to restart, more realistically, and to build a homegrown squad. I'll be focussing on holding the current squad together, developing the new intake through the different squads before reaching the first team by the time they're 21 or so, and maybe bringing former youngsters back (but that would be a last option). More in line with how Athletic Club operate in the real world, rather than exploiting the abundance of talent that comes through elsewhere each season.

I started the save after the first season when Athletic Club finished ninth. So no Europe, but we'll aim for that next season. A few good players came through the youth intake, the two attached will be certain first-teamers in future. I'll transition some deadwood out but won't expect wholesale changes. As contracts expire, players will leave and new players will come in via the different squad pathways. So, a tougher challenge than usual, but probably more rewarding. 

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Em 05/04/2021 em 14:59, ernemann disse:

Go in under player search in the scout area and then choose edit search in the right corner and under Add condition choose nationality. After it choose Spain go back in and choose basque 😏

Thanks, mate. I will try that, appreciate it. I wasnt sure if I could only search for basque players by managing Athletic.

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Hey, I’m just starting a new save with Athletic and wondered if after the update whether many are moving Serrano and Williams straight up into the first team? Their PA looks great compared to some of the first teamers, they just need to do some bulking up but I don’t want to rush them too much

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I moved quite a few players from the youth team, so they train with first team squad and get the mentoring.. but I also often make them available for U19 and C team. (another hint, arragne at least once a week a friendly for C team since they are not in the active league). 
That being said, both Nicos quite often feature in my team, with Nico performing really well, but they are not guaranteed starters, I rotate a lot and against stronger teams do usually start with Ibai and Berenguer or Morcillo.

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On 08/04/2021 at 14:42, lugui said:

Thanks, mate. I will try that, appreciate it. I wasnt sure if I could only search for basque players by managing Athletic.

No problem. The only thing i wish was different, that Young Spanish under 17 who arent basque didnt show in the scout report. But i guess some people still buy Them 🤷‍♂️ 

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On 08/04/2021 at 16:23, Paulz said:

Hey, I’m just starting a new save with Athletic and wondered if after the update whether many are moving Serrano and Williams straight up into the first team? Their PA looks great compared to some of the first teamers, they just need to do some bulking up but I don’t want to rush them too much

I moved about 4-6 Young players up to the first team and players like Serrano, Nico Williams, Morcillo and Imanol gets  alot of time 

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Just played the 2021-22 season with my Lezama save and we finished 7th, level with Sevilla on 6th (who had a better head-to-head). It means we qualified for Europe, at the expense of Real Sociedad in 8th. The top three were the usual; Valencia, Villarreal and Sevilla finished 4th-6th. Given that Valencia spent 127m (they had a takeover) and Sevilla 95m (they sold Munir to PSG for silly money), we did OK given we have not and are not buying anyone.

I let Berenguer leave for the Middle East. Inigo Vicente left too. Mikel Vesga will go this Summer, and then that's probably it. 

It's a bit of waiting game for regens to come through. The two I posted before are coming along well. I have a 15yo striker that has excellent potential - just need to work on those physicals.

Just to avoid any complacency creeping in with the team, I've hired Roy Keane as my assistant manager!

 

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Just wanted to show you this 17yo Basque regen (from Basauri) who emerged from Real Madrid's academy. He'd cost 63m but with my Lezama only save I won't try to sign him. Still, he is ridiculous. 

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On 05/04/2021 at 21:37, dothestrand said:

I've started a Lezama only save. Having won a third title in six years and with a couple of dozen of youngsters developed internally or poached from other academies, I've decided to restart, more realistically, and to build a homegrown squad. I'll be focussing on holding the current squad together, developing the new intake through the different squads before reaching the first team by the time they're 21 or so, and maybe bringing former youngsters back (but that would be a last option). More in line with how Athletic Club operate in the real world, rather than exploiting the abundance of talent that comes through elsewhere each season.

I started the save after the first season when Athletic Club finished ninth. So no Europe, but we'll aim for that next season. A few good players came through the youth intake, the two attached will be certain first-teamers in future. I'll transition some deadwood out but won't expect wholesale changes. As contracts expire, players will leave and new players will come in via the different squad pathways. So, a tougher challenge than usual, but probably more rewarding. 

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Good luck ! that is what i want to do with Bilbao. Youth only :) but i'm still not sure. This will be fun after 5, 6 years, not sooner.

Why did u holiday the first season ? to get the first intake/regens ?

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3 hours ago, OlivierL said:

Good luck ! that is what i want to do with Bilbao. Youth only :) but i'm still not sure. This will be fun after 5, 6 years, not sooner.

Why did u holiday the first season ? to get the first intake/regens ?

I'm always happy with my first Athletic Club save being one where you can sign any Basque club but it becomes a little easy after a while when you just hoover up the talent from other academies every season. I'd won a couple of titles - nowhere near winning the CL mind - so I thought I'd start again.

I was desperate to see the intake, so that's why I holidayed! After a couple of seasons, whilst we didn't have a golden generation, we have a good pool of talent to develop. Ideally they reach a good level of development by the time their current position holder leaves.

I've shared screenshots in previous posts but we have a DMC, AMC and ST who are in the first team squad, getting minutes and should be first choices, more or less, within 2-3 years. They should replace Dani Garcia and Raul Garcia (whether as AMC or ST) very soon.

To a lesser extent, I have a 16yo AML who could be an upgrade on Morcillo/Cordoba, but as that's a position with some depth, I can take some time with him. I have a really promising GK but again, no rush as Simon is going nowhere. Also a RB who may not be ready when Capa/Lekue depart, but would not be far off, hopefully.

But another good thing about this type of save is that you use some of the players you start with, whom you would quickly discard because you've brought in a better youngster from Real Sociedad, Osasuna, Alaves, etc. So Benat De Jesus, Inamol, Inigo Gomeza, Oier Zarraga, Nico Williams, even Peru Nolaskoian. They're not world beaters but they provide good depth. With Inamol/Gomeza, they're pretty decent in my saves so when Yuri leaves, I'm not in a hole.

So it feels like a more 'real' save - but it will be harder, sure.

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2 hours ago, dothestrand said:

I'm always happy with my first Athletic Club save being one where you can sign any Basque club but it becomes a little easy after a while when you just hoover up the talent from other academies every season. I'd won a couple of titles - nowhere near winning the CL mind - so I thought I'd start again.

I was desperate to see the intake, so that's why I holidayed! After a couple of seasons, whilst we didn't have a golden generation, we have a good pool of talent to develop. Ideally they reach a good level of development by the time their current position holder leaves.

I've shared screenshots in previous posts but we have a DMC, AMC and ST who are in the first team squad, getting minutes and should be first choices, more or less, within 2-3 years. They should replace Dani Garcia and Raul Garcia (whether as AMC or ST) very soon.

To a lesser extent, I have a 16yo AML who could be an upgrade on Morcillo/Cordoba, but as that's a position with some depth, I can take some time with him. I have a really promising GK but again, no rush as Simon is going nowhere. Also a RB who may not be ready when Capa/Lekue depart, but would not be far off, hopefully.

But another good thing about this type of save is that you use some of the players you start with, whom you would quickly discard because you've brought in a better youngster from Real Sociedad, Osasuna, Alaves, etc. So Benat De Jesus, Inamol, Inigo Gomeza, Oier Zarraga, Nico Williams, even Peru Nolaskoian. They're not world beaters but they provide good depth. With Inamol/Gomeza, they're pretty decent in my saves so when Yuri leaves, I'm not in a hole.

So it feels like a more 'real' save - but it will be harder, sure.

Yes , the way you talk about the save , i giving me once again a lot of good vibes to start but the fact that Bilbao is starting with a lot of good things (money, stadium, facilities, liga ) is giving me doubts.. i know it will be a big challenge after a few years.

 

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I'm going to keep Bilbao in mind for next FM. I started with a team in Gibraltar and i'm doing a Gibraltar (academy or players with Gibraltarian nationality from other teams) only.. Gibraltar is my Basque :) 

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My Lezama save progressed quicker than I thought and we won the title in 2022-23. I'm sure I've never won the title this soon even when signing players. It really was based on my home form of 18 wins and 1 draw, and that draw was in our third to last home game against A. Madrid. Away form was decent too, though we usually lost to the big guns. The defence all performed strongly, Williams and Villalibre scored 25 and 34 respectively across all competitions, and the midfield was solid. 

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We've got some nice young players developing now and I'll use the close season to work out their paths to first team football and when to start transitioning the squad. The three who've already had a taste of first team football, who've all been mentioned above are:

  • Imanol Gonzalez (18yo) - primarily a CM, but comfortable at CB and CM. An obvious replacement for Dani Garcia, whose contract expires in a year. I plan to let his contract run out but would happily let him leave now as Gonzalez was already getting his game time.
  • Xabier Martin (17yo) - an AMC who I'll retrain as a CM. His technical stats need some work but he can take over more permanently from Muniain (whom I often play in the middle or more likely, Unai Lopez, within a couple of seasons.
  • Hugo Nunez (16yo) - already my second/third choice striker (depending on how I use Williams). But like Martin, his technical stats need to improve. He isn't a natural finisher by any means. I have the option to drop him back into midfield, like a Scholes, but I need a striker more than I need a midfielder.

Then there are some longer term players, who need more development and experience (probably on loan), before being ready in a few years. All of whom have 4.5-5* potential. Some examples:

  • Santos Hernandez (17yo) - in the short-term, Imanol and Inigo Gomeza can replace Yuri, who I may let go when his contract expires in a year or sell earlier - he's been injury-prone. But Hernandez has huge potential - he improved massively in his first season at the club. All the attributes getting healthy upticks. Probably still a few years off being first choice.
  • Javier Nunez (17yo) - came through the second intake. Probably has more natural forward attributes than Nunez so far, but I want those physicals and mentals higher. Still, he is improving whilst on loan.
  • Ignacio Palacios (16yo) - not a fan of his temperament but he's developed well nonetheless in his first season. Can play across the back, so gives great options for when Capa, Lekue and Martinez move on. 
  • Kike Garmendia (16yo) - excellent GK prospect but with Simon being 25yo, I'm happy to let Garmendia develop at his own pace. Even if he just ends up being a second choice GK, I'm fine. But I think he can reach Simon's level. Pedro Munoz is a 15yo GK who just came through the youth intake - if both develop nicely, that's even better.
  • Javier Alkorta (15yo) - coaches really rate him, and good personality/determination means that even though his attributes are probably only OK, there should be huge room to grow - and we can wait a few years for Yeray and Nunez to age.
  • Gorka Pascual (15yo) - also just emerged in the recent intake, he is looking very, very promising! Stats on a nice upward curve, and I reckon he is only 2-3 years off being a first teamer. He'll compete with Gonzalez, and would be an upgrade on Vencedor and Nolaskoian, not that I'd be in a hurry to let them go. Can also play CM and RB, which is a bonus. I'd be tempted to use him as Capa's replacement.
  • Roberto Aizpurua (16yo) - also in the recent intake, showing signs of improvement already. Likely to be a solid, all-round AML option, who can replace Cordoba in a few seasons hopefully.

Our under-19s have a few more players with 3* potential. We'll keep them around and see how they go. We had a 'golden generation' of sorts, as you can guess.

So, in three seasons, we have around 9-10 players of first team potential within five years, all of whom should be as good as, if not better, than their current position holders. We can move some of the older guys (Yuri, Martinez, D Garcia, R Garcia) on quite easily within the next season or so. Capa will be a little more difficult as there is no quick option at RB. Muniain and Williams should be at the club well into their 30s as we wait for players to develop - wingers are not our strong point, which may necessitate tactical changes.

But....a Lezama only save is definitely a good option, and a more enjoyable save so far!

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What formation do you tend to find a better fit for the first season squad and youth players coming though? I generally prefer a 433 but it looks like 4231 could be a potentially better match for the players  

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8 hours ago, Paulz said:

What formation do you tend to find a better fit for the first season squad and youth players coming though? I generally prefer a 433 but it looks like 4231 could be a potentially better match for the players  

I'm pretty sure the suggested setup is 4-2-3-1, with Raul Garcia as the AMC. I prefer a 4-1-2-2-1 so I have more stability in midfield and more protection for the defence. So I use Garcia up front as he's the only natural AMC as far as I recall. You often get AMCs as youth players though but I retrain them. Your best young players at the start are Serrano and Williams, who are either wide players or forwards anyway. 

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I would put Williams on top. A superb advanced forward. 2x Golden Boot and 3x league top scorer for me. But of course, with that formation, you will have trouble placing Raul elsewhere

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12 hours ago, markv1 said:

Can our C team be promoted from Segunda División B if B team is already promoted to LL SmartBank? I don't want both to be in 2nd division.

The B-team and C-team cant play in the same division, so if b-team is in segunda (la liga 123), the C-team cant be promoted no matter what it says in the game 

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On 25/04/2021 at 11:28, sindre_90 said:

I would put Williams on top. A superb advanced forward. 2x Golden Boot and 3x league top scorer for me. But of course, with that formation, you will have trouble placing Raul elsewhere

Personally I always got the best out of Raul Garcia in central midfield.

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2023-24 season of my Lezama only save was another successful season. We finished 2nd in La Liga, way behind Barcelona, but interestingly, just ahead of Valencia and Sevilla. The two Madrid clubs failed to make the CL! Look how congested 11th to 17th was too! Cadiz, in theory, could have gone down as they beat Almeria on the last day. Real San Sebastian continue to be pretty poor in my save. Two seasons without European football now, despite a strong squad.

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But more importantly perhaps, we won the Euro Cup! If you recall, having won La Liga the previous season, we would have been top seeds in this season's CL. I couldn't even argue much with the group stage draw - Liverpool, Zenit St Petersburg and Monaco (I'd have expected to finish at least 2nd here). But we underperformed and only squeaked 3rd place, which dropped us into the Euro Cup. Schalke, Everton, Roma and Lille were despatched before we beat Juventus in the final with a Villalibre penalty. 

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In terms of personnel, you may recall the three youngsters I had in my first team. Gonzalez rotates the DM spot with Vencedor. Martin is now first choice in CM, with Sancet (means Lopez is now the rotation option), and Nunez alternated the striker role with Villalibre (and scored back-to-back hat tricks at one point!)

Other youngsters on the periphery of the first team squad got the odd game here and there but mostly filled out the B squad. Some are making good progress but there is no immediate need to rush them as I'm not expecting to make many changes this Summer. First, I will almost certainly let Lekue leave as he's unhappy and De Jesus/Gomeza can provide full-back support when they return from productive loans. Capa will probably play one more season but it's an area we need to develop (Pascual, a DM, may be retrained). Martinez is starting to decline and we have a replacement lined up with Alkorta, but he will probably get one more season too. Muniain is also on the way down. He isn't needed in CM and Serrano is my preferred AML anyway, so we may accept bids this Summer for him (Martinez could go if someone came in as well as Yeray and Nunez are my preferred pair and I'd like to shift his wage).

We had lucked out the previous season with the youth intake, so we weren't as fortunate this season. But.... this guy is easily the best youngster I've had at that age range. He will go straight into the first team squad! Primarily a defensive winger, he's also adept in CM. He has the skills to be an excellent all round midfielder. Probably not good news for Unai Lopez long-term!

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Going into 2024-25, much of the same. Qualify for the CL is the minimum for the league, and ideally improving in the CL competition itself - not that the Euro Cup wasn't nice!

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On 30/04/2021 at 16:48, dothestrand said:

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Going into 2024-25, much of the same. Qualify for the CL is the minimum for the league, and ideally improving in the CL competition itself - not that the Euro Cup wasn't nice!

He looks great but he screams dm or fb to me.  I love retraining cms to be at least accomplished fbs if they are decent defensively to free up a spot on the bench.

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9 hours ago, jakem016 said:

He looks great but he screams dm or fb to me.  I love retraining cms to be at least accomplished fbs if they are decent defensively to free up a spot on the bench.

He certainly has the potential to be a very versatile player. Because I have Vencedor and a 19yo rotating the DM role, plus a 16yo on the way, there's no need to retrain him there. He certainly will be a first team option as a CM in a couple of seasons as I currently rotate Sancet/Lopez/Martin (my youth player) and he will take over Lopez. For a player with good defensive attributes, he actually has no natural ability in a defensive role. As a left-footer, I've no need to retrain him as a LB as I have loads of options there. Not sure retraining as a RB has any legs given he isn't a right-footer. But yes, a P Neville/John O'Shea type player who can play across all defensive and midfield positions would be nice!

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2024-25 of my Lezama only save, which ended in the most devastating fashion. When the final whistle of the season blew, I was ready to call 999 because of a collective bout of choking.

Two games to go, we were 5 pts clear of Valencia, who had the better head to head record. So in reality, 2 pts would take the title. We were away to Almeria and could only rescue a draw in the dying minutes. A bad time for my star performers to suddenly get stage fright. So that left us 3 pts clear - Valencia with an easy home game, and us away to Real Madrid. I set up as cautiously as possible, hoping to take the game deep. 0-0 into stoppage time in the first half and Sancet gives away a penalty. We're chasing the second half and are easily picked off, losing 0-3. Valencia inevitably won, therefore taking the title. What a kick in the teeth!

In other news, we won the Spanish Cup and after getting out of our CL group, we were unfortunate to face Man Utd, who battered us at Old Trafford after we took a 1-0 lead into the second leg. So overall, a mixed season, but only because of how it finished. I'd have taken it on paper. Valencia have spent loads in the last couple of seasons - they must have had a takeover. Their net spend over the last four seasons? 118m, 192m, 84m and 69m. 

This Summer may see some changes. Capa, Martinez, Muniain and Lopez all have one more season on their contracts. Only Lopez may get a new contract, as he is reasonably still in his prime, but if we get a decent offer for any of them, they can leave. If they run down their contracts instead, so be it. Some of the more fringe players may move on if we get offers - Zarraga, Nolaskoian, etc. I won't chase bids, but if they come in, I won't turn down anything reasonable.

Let's hope this experience hasn't scarred the squad!

 

 

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