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As much of the data is subjective we’d ask that you respect everyone’s opinion and accept that the final decision is that of our club researchers and our heads of research.          

We also request you please adhere to the following three point plan when posting in the data topics:

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3 minutes ago, He can't believe he's missed it said:

This can't be right surely?

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Cheers for spotting that one. It looks like something must have been missed with the value there. We'll look at fixing that clause in future.

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C.D. Leganes

Opcion de compra de Ruben Pardo entorno a 3 millones obligatoria en caso de ascenso https://as.com/futbol/2020/09/28/segunda/1601312157_954215.html

Recio tiene una opcion de renovacion por parte del club de un año https://as.com/futbol/2020/09/03/primera/1599135944_441708.html

El Real Madrid mantiene el 50% de los derechos de Javi Hernandez https://as.com/futbol/2020/09/24/segunda/1600951910_284366.html

La opcion de compra de Ignasi Miquel es entre 1,5 y 2 millones obligatoria en caso de ascenso https://as.com/futbol/2020/09/16/segunda/1600249611_681916.html

La opcion de compra de Michael Santos es entre 1,2 y 1,5 millones obligatoria en caso de ascenso https://as.com/futbol/2020/09/14/segunda/1600086377_036150.html

Falta incluir la venta de M. Kone al Eupen por valor de 0,5 millones en el historial de fichajes https://as.com/futbol/2020/08/12/segunda/1597232039_361935.html

El Leganes recibiria 0,5 millones por Gumbau si el Girona asciende https://as.com/futbol/2020/08/27/segunda/1598536407_155174.html

Leganes aun mantiene el 50% de Luciano Neves https://as.com/futbol/2020/08/18/segunda/1597744965_962340.html

La venta de En-Nesyri es en 3 plazos (7+7+6) por lo que en junio-julio recibe 7 millones y en diciembre 6. Ademas conserva un 10% del beneficio de una futura venta https://as.com/futbol/2020/02/03/primera/1580719947_060746.html

Cambiaria en las afiliaciones actuales:

Leganes puede enviar jugadores cedidos al Cartagena

Afiliacion de Leganes con el IR Tanger (Comparten conocimiento de ojeadores, envio de juveniles y partidos amistosos) https://www.cdleganes.com/noticia/el-c-d-leganes-firma-un-acuerdo-de-colaboracion-con-el-ittihad-de-tanger

Leganes B Juega en la Instalacion Deportiva Butarque

Ingreso de 5 millones por la venta de Thomas Venta Thomas

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I think Barca and Real are way too good overall, but that has mostly been the case in recent years and is just even more evident this year. I could pick 10 players now, but i'd like to start with a simple stat that is easily proven:

Messi's freekick stats are way too high (19). I would not give more then 15. Yes, he got quite a few direct freekick goals, but that's only because he fired tons of them. Ward-Prowse for example (who btw has a 15 in game) has a lot better conversion rate then Messi.

Even Griezmann and Coutinho are both better freekick takers. I guess you would have to work something into the game like "Messi always shoots the freekicks" to not have the game pick Griezmann or Coutinho over him.

Also quite a few mental stats of Messi are too high, but that's a lot harder to prove.

 

 

In addition something is odd with Valencia in my save:

In Game: After 17 games they are second in the table -> ok, while this might not be impossible, it's still odd. Might be a "fluke" season however, so i don't want to judge.

Where it gets strange is how they handle their best players and how the best players feel at the club.

I made approaches regarding their best players (Gaya, Soler, Guedes, Maxi Gomez) and all of them had the same answer: They do not want to leave the club. It was not a case of the players not finding my team not interesting, but they just didn't want to leave in any case. 

In addition, when i approached Valencia to make an offer, the club played hardball and said, they are not for sale - not for any price.

Real life: I find that odd to say the least, when looking at how the club gifted away all their best players in the summer for peanuts (Parejo, Coquelin, Ferran Torres, Rodrigo) and the recent "gift" of Kondogbia to Atletico shows, it doesn't seem to stop there. All the players are really angry with Valencia and how Lim is demolishing the project. At the same time Lim tries to sell the best players as fast as possible for cheap prices and doesn't even start to really negotiate. It is fully expected that their downfall keeps on like this.

In game, it seems this recent development is not factored in at all, they are still treated like a top team in every manner. 

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Please excuse my potential ignorance & apologies if I am incorrect, but looking at Deportivo's wages on some of the players - Maybe they are too high? For example, Uche Agbo on £9,750 p/w. Surely too high at the level in Spain or am I not taking into consideration the size of team Deportivo are(could compare them to a Sunderland/Ipswich in 3rd divion of England).

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Also in Real Oviedo:

-The new Carlos Tartire Stadium have now blue seats

-Juan mata should be a icon and the player must have oviedo as  supporter fav  team .

-Christian Fernandez should have oviedo as favorite team ( player)

-Dani Bautista isnt part of the tecnical staff , is delegate

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CF RAYO MAJADAHONDA Staff

- Santiago Cortes Luna - Assistant Coach - 26/06/1997

- Jose Manuel Quintana Moreno - Fitness Coach - 17/07/1973

16/17 to 18/19 Watford (England)

19/20 to now CF Rayo Majadahonda

- Alfonso Lacasa Taberne - Goalkeeper Coach - 01/04/1980

17/18 and 18/19 CF Rayo Majadahonda U19

19/20 Jamshedpur FC (India)

20/21 CF Rayo Majadahonda

- Luis Muñoz Miguel - Fitness Coach

- Laura Osuna - Doctor - 25/09/1987

- José María Osuna Chambon - Doctor - 02/10/1956

- José Bugeda Becerril - Physio - 31/07/1991

17/18 and 18/19 Watford (England)

19/20 and 20/21 CF Rayo Majadahonda

- Fernando Gutierrez Pérez - Physio - 22/06/1990 

- Manuel Alcazar -  Jefe Desarrollo juveniles

https://www.rayomajadahonda.es/primer-equipo/plantilla/cf-rayo/3

 

 

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Real Betis:Sergio Canales

I think his CA should be strengthened. In recent seasons, his performance has been at a high level, and he has also performed very well in the Spanish national team. It is recommended that CA160 or higher.

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Malaga have a lot of their youngsters will extremely high attributes, leading them to have recommended CAs much higher than they're actual CA, sometimes even higher than their PA.

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When you load up a save, their attributes are reduced, however this sometimes leads to greatly imbalanced players. Maybe it would be better to give them more well rounded attributes, including filling in the null value attribute, to they can be more well balanced, hence realistic, players.

Also, Malaga have 7 null value General Sponsers in the editor, again it doesn't affect the game, just thought maybe you guys would want to clean that up.

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I dont know if this is the right place or not but anyway. Dont you think Alexander Isak in Real Sociedad is a little bit overrated? He went on to Man Utd on my current save and he has like 45 goals in 55 games in the league. And these stats Ive seen i Every save i had so far in fm21.  In the nationalteam he has similar stats. I know he been ok lately irl but oh lord...

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Just now, satan said:

Is there any reason Luka Romero from Mallorca is not in the game yet?

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. He is over 16 now, given that he is regarded as one of the super talents, it is a bit stranged if he was omitted by mistake.

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7 minutes ago, satan said:

Is there any reason Luka Romero from Mallorca is not in the game yet?

His birth date is after the cut-off for this version of FM, so we still can't include him.

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5 minutes ago, Ed Hewison said:

His birth date is after the cut-off for this version of FM, so we still can't include him.

Ok, but he's 2 days younger than Moukoko if I'm not wrong. Is there different rules for players in different countries?

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1 minute ago, satan said:

Ok, but he's 2 days younger than Moukoko if I'm not wrong. Is there different rules for players in different countries?

It is the other way around, Moukoko is born two days after Romero. Which makes it even stranger.

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1 hour ago, TelcontarTargaryen said:

It is the other way around, Moukoko is born two days after Romero. Which makes it even stranger.

Moukoko is allowed under the terms of the licensing agreement now that he's 16 in real life. No one else is that is born after 01/09/2004.

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2 minutes ago, Woodg SI said:

Moukoko is allowed under the terms of the licensing agreement now that he's 16 in real life. No one else is that is born after 01/09/2020.

Ok. Thanks for the answer

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En 6/12/2020 a las 21:38, ostkiz dijo:

I reported in the beta that Real Oviedo colors of shorts and socks are changed, this get solved but in the final version again same problem.

This happened again after  every update.

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Seen this in another area it definitely needs looked at. Check Spanish league players salary and salary after tax.....

Example Luka Modric £300k p/w
                                       £300k p/w after tax :eek:


 

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4 hours ago, WilsonJuve said:

Seen this in another area it definitely needs looked at. Check Spanish league players salary and salary after tax.....

Example Luka Modric £300k p/w
                                       £300k p/w after tax :eek:


 

I think we've got this one - the new tax rules were added which kick in on 01/01/2021 but the previous ones deleted meaning until 01/01/21 no income tax is charged. So it should kick in in-game once you hit the new year.

Fixed now for next data update.

Thanks for the report

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7 hours ago, ostkiz said:

This happened again after every update.

Hi. Please could you confirm the correct combination of colours?

This is what we have in the In-Game Editor:

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So the home kit should look like this, but they can use alternative shorts and socks if there is a kit clash with another team.

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Arturo Elías Ayub (5662755) should be Real Oviedo's (1741) owner

Suggestions for Real Madrid:

  • Javier Blancart (67295334) is now Real Madrid's U19 Team Assistant Manager. Proof
  • Manu Fernández (2000065182) should be Director of Football, not Scout. Proof
  • David Fernández (67256292) should be Recruitment Analyst, not Scout. Proof

Some Real Madrid employees that I think should be created:

 

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On 17/02/2021 at 02:41, tv_capper said:

Adnan Januzaj (18054092) needs Paul Pogba adding as a friend in his relationships

"is looking forward to seeing "close friend" Paul Pogba, who he speaks to several times a week."

According to this BBC interview:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56034613

you should download Nik33's relationship mod - has hundreds of added real friendships.

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I realise the last update is already out, but thought i'd post this anyway... surely this is an error?

 

The goal bonus is what I'm talking about of course.

 

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Few international caps that need updating, (only included up until the start of this season)

Toni Datkovic (Cartagena) 1 cap 0 goal for Croatia,  debut was 14/01/17 against China: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/66401/Toni_Datkovic.html

Adalberto Carrasquilla (Cartagena) 8 caps 1 goal for Panama, first goal 05/09/19 against Bermuda: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/71037/Adalberto_Carrasquilla.html

Iban Salvador (Fuenlabrada) 21 caps 2 goals for Equatorial Guinea: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/58055/Iban_Salvador.html

Jose Luiz Rodriguez (Lugo) 18 caps 0 goals for Panama: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/71251/Jose_Luis_Rodriguez_1.html

Gaku Shibasaki (Leganes) 45 caps 3 goals for Japan: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/57040/Gaku_Shibasaki.html

Kenneth Omeruo (Leganes) 52 caps 1 goal for Nigeria: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/50699/Kenneth_Omeruo.html

Yoel Barcenas (Girona) 42 caps 1 goal for Panama: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/56468/Edgar_Yoel_Barcenas.html

Cristhian Stuani (Girona) 50 caps 8 goals for Uruguay: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/49308/Christian_Stuani.html

Luis Advincula (Vallecano) 89 caps 1 goal for Peru: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/39874/Luis_Advincula.html

Iddrisu Baba (Mallorca) 2 caps 0 goals for Ghana, debut 14/11/19 against South Africa: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/76142/Iddrisu_Baba.html

Yacouba Hamani (Ponferrada) 9 caps 0 goals for Niger: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/64668/Yacouba_Magagi.html

Saul Coco (Las Palmas) 5 caps 0 goals for Equatorial Guinea, debut 03/09/17 against Benin: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/69178/Saul_Coco.html

Wu Lei (Espanyol) 68 caps 19 goals for China: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/36139/Lei_Wu.html

Fidel Escobar (Alcorcon) 42 caps 1 goal for Panama: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/58223/Fidel_Escobar.html

Jannyck Buyla (Murcia) 2 caps 0 goals for Equatorial Guinea, debut 08/09/19 against South Sudan: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/75435/Jannick_Buyla.html

Celso Borges (Coruna) 130 caps 3 goals for Costa Rica: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/26674/Celso_Borges.html

Federico Bikoro (Badalona) 22 caps 1 goal for Equatorial Guinea: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/59487/Federico_Bikoro.html

Paul Otia (Lealtad) 1 cap 0 goal for Cameroon, debut 24/01/18 against Burkina Faso: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/70093/Paul_Otia.html

Luis Meseguer (Zamora) 6 caps 1 goal for Equatorial Guinea: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/72603/Luis_Meseguer.html

Gorka Luariz (A.Gexto) 2 caps 0 goals for Equatorial Guinea: debut 13/10/18 against Madagascar: https://www.national-football-teams.com/player/72222/Gorka_Luariz.html

 

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On 17/03/2021 at 07:16, Lebohang Mokoena said:

Arturo Elías Ayub (5662755) should be Real Oviedo's (1741) owner

His UID was 5662755 but later that ID was assigned to Victor Mahbub, chairman of Pumas (2006-2012)

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