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  • Ed Hewison changed the title to [Scotland Premiership] Data Issues

I'm going to repost what I said in the previous thread:

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I've been looking at the Hibs players in preparation for a save when the game is out, and I've noticed one peculiar thing.

Josh Doig, who is a left back in the game, and on his profile on the Hibs site that says he's "comfortable at centre-back, left-back or left wing-back", is right footed. Now granted I've never seen him play but it's odd to see a defender who plays exclusively on the left be right footed. I've tried to find footage of him playing to confirm and all I've found was 2 minute video. In that video you can see he dribbles with his left foot almost exclusively, an indicator that he prefers using his left foot, albeit he does take a shot with his right in the video. He also scored a goal against Celtic in a friendly with his right. I know the latter two pieces of evidence is contrary to the point he is left footed, but the fact he uses his left foot to dribble, even when he is cutting inside, is a strong indicator that he is left footed.

I could be wrong, but maybe it's an oversight by the Hibs researcher who made a simple mistake when putting his footedness. Currently he's very strong with his left and reasonable with his right, it should be swapped.

 

Also I'd like to highlight that they belaboured the point in the Tweet about his goal against Celtic that he is a "left sided defender", therefore that could be an indication that he's left footed. 

Also maybe give him some competency at left-wing back, as he's played there when Hibs played in a back 3, against Aberdeen, Celtic and Rangers.

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1 hour ago, AceAvenger said:

I'm going to repost what I said in the previous thread:

Also I'd like to highlight that they belaboured the point in the Tweet about his goal against Celtic that he is a "left sided defender", therefore that could be an indication that he's left footed. 

Also maybe give him some competency at left-wing back, as he's played there when Hibs played in a back 3, against Aberdeen, Celtic and Rangers.

You are right, cheers. I found this article where he says his right foot's ok but he tries to avoid it where he can. We'll get him sorted whenever we're next able too.

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hey guys why is it glen middleton not declared for scotland and his future lies with england plus james tavenier for scotland 6 yrs with rangers and i know he may not get selected but would be nice to see plus goldson and maybe edmundson for the future if gerrard decides to keep them for real be nice to have new blood for national side:)

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8 minutes ago, Andrew Price said:

hey guys why is it glen middleton not declared for scotland and his future lies with england plus james tavenier for scotland 6 yrs with rangers and i know he may not get selected but would be nice to see plus goldson and maybe edmundson for the future if gerrard decides to keep them for real be nice to have new blood for national side:)

The "home" nations have an unwritten rule that you can only be selected if you have family links to a nation as in parents, grandparents, (why is a whole other issue). So Tav wont ever play for Scotland.

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Just now, jimbo22 said:

The "home" nations have an unwritten rule that you can only be selected if you have family links to a nation as in parents, grandparents, (why is a whole other issue). So Tav wont ever play for Scotland.

yea i know that lol but be great to have in the game thou

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1 minute ago, Andrew Price said:

hey guys why is it glen middleton not declared for scotland and his future lies with england plus james tavenier for scotland 6 yrs with rangers and i know he may not get selected but would be nice to see plus goldson and maybe edmundson for the future if gerrard decides to keep them for real be nice to have new blood for national side:)

Tavenier is not available for Scotland.  He does not fit any of the following

1. Born in Scotland.

2. Have a blood parent born in Scotland

3. Have a blood grandparent in Scotland

4. Educated in Scotland for 5 years before his 18th birthday

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1 minute ago, ATW said:

Tavenier is not available for Scotland.  He does not fit any of the following

1. Born in Scotland.

2. Have a blood parent born in Scotland

3. Have a blood grandparent in Scotland

4. Educated in Scotland for 5 years before his 18th birthday

yea it use to be yrs ago untill the change the rule to 18 yrs old

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3 minutes ago, PigeonStrangler said:

The Scottish media was ridiculing some of the valuations today:

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Duffy is absolutely hopeless domestically and at international level yet his valuation and stats make him a top SPFL defender.  The people who gather the data must've seen this prior to release yet here we are.  Strange.

celtic in general are ***** so no suprise there 

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7 minutes ago, PigeonStrangler said:

The Scottish media was ridiculing some of the valuations today:

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Duffy is absolutely hopeless domestically and at international level yet his valuation and stats make him a top SPFL defender.  The people who gather the data must've seen this prior to release yet here we are.  Strange.

While it's nice to keep up with click bait, please remember that this is a data issues thread and should be used for that only.

Valuations are not a data issue as they are not something we directly control.

For what it's worth, within the article - written as it is to attract clicks which result in The Sun getting revenue - it makes a point of mentioning that Duffy's valuation is as a result of him being on loan.

Thanks

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4 hours ago, Andrew Price said:

celtic in general are ***** so no suprise there 

Andrew- this thread is for reporting data issues in the game - it is not for comments like this.  Please read the posting guidelines before posting again as any further posts like this will be removed.

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Hey,

I raised this in the beta bugs before but doesn't appear to be fixed.

A load of hair colours (in Scotland at least) are wrong in the match engine. 

Players I've noticed so far that all have blonde hair in the match highlights for some reason (Lewis Ferguson (Aberdeen), Ryan Christie (Celtic), Ryan Kent (Rangers), John Souttar (Hearts), Martin Boyle (Hibs), James Forrest (Celtic), Michael Smith (Hearts), Michael O'Halloran (St. Johnstone) and Craig Bryson (St. Johnstone).

Some of these players do have lighter hair irl but not the sandy colour they all have in game. Some of them are just plain wrong as well.

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On 25/11/2020 at 14:10, Johnsey said:

Hey,

I raised this in the beta bugs before but doesn't appear to be fixed.

A load of hair colours (in Scotland at least) are wrong in the match engine. 

Players I've noticed so far that all have blonde hair in the match highlights for some reason (Lewis Ferguson (Aberdeen), Ryan Christie (Celtic), Ryan Kent (Rangers), John Souttar (Hearts), Martin Boyle (Hibs), James Forrest (Celtic), Michael Smith (Hearts), Michael O'Halloran (St. Johnstone) and Craig Bryson (St. Johnstone).

Some of these players do have lighter hair irl but not the sandy colour they all have in game. Some of them are just plain wrong as well.

Cheers. Got these fixed for whenever there's a data update.

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Not sure if this is the right place but I've just got the game and started with Rangers and in the September international break Aribo went off with Nigeria and won his 1st cap.

 

However, he won his first cap back in September 2019 and as far as I can see currently has 6 caps for his Nigeria.

2 of his cap have come in November of this year, so he should start with 4 cap to his name.

 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joe-aribo-scores-nigeria-debut-19985156

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Apologies if not the correct place, but was wondering if the 'past winners' column of the Scottish Cup will be updated to include last season's final (played on 20/12)? There's last year's Copa del Rey final outstanding too although not gonna be played for a while.

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Ive come to the conclusion Martin Boyle acceleration has increased this season, His overall speed is second to none, Pace is perfect but acceleration should be in the range of 17-18.

 

Alex Gogic bravery on the pitch is unbelievable and his leadership has come on leaps and bounds this season. Perhaps these need reviewed, in my opinion bravery around 18 leadership, 15, Determination 15-16.

 

Chris Doidge's Ability in the air has been unbelievably overlooked, He's likely the best target man in Scotland right now, I feel Heading should be 17, jumping reach 16, bravery 15, should maybe see a small increase on shooting too.

 

Joe Newell has been Hibs best player in the last couple of months, his ability needs a major boost.

 

Steven Bradley has made his first team debut and is highly regarded as a huge prospect at easter road, looks like the players and manager really rate him as shown by the reaction by the players on twitter, so his ability and potential should be increased. 

 

 

 

 

Ofir Marciano's hidden stats should be review as in interviews and videos from him he's nothing short of a model citizen.

 

David Gray has not played nearly enough to warrant his ability at the start of the game and I have doubts he will play at this level again. but on the other hand should 100% be considered a legend in the general info section as he brought Hibs their first Scottish cup win in 114 years with a header late in stoppage time.

 

On a lighter note Paul McGinn has been somewhat of a revelation at centre back forming a great partnership with Porteous and Hanlon. He needs to be a natural at centre back and a fair increase in ability.

 

This Hibs team is performing at a higher level than expected so this is why I feel a couple of changes would be adequate.

If you need any more info on Hibs and i'd be happy to help.

 

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