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Please post all issues relating to this language translation of FM 2021 in this topic.

Please try to provide a screenshot by attaching it to your post (or if a saved game is needed please follow instructions here) 

Please refer to the sticky topic for Translation reporting Guidelines. This can be found here - ***-READ-BEFORE-POSTING-***-Posting-in-the-Translation-Forum

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I'll also be expecting us to give a good account of ourselves in the Champions Cup this season

is translated as:

Ik verwacht ook dat we een goede kans te maken in de Champions Cup dit seizoen

This is wrong translated and the sentence gives a total other meaning. The word "te" or the words "dat we" should be removed by the way to make it a normal sentence. But then it's still not a correct translation. A very good translation would be

"Ik verwacht ook van ons dat we een goede indruk achterlaten in de Champions Cup dit seizoen"

Another comment:

"latter stages" is translated as "eindfase" but this is vague in Dutch. Better would be to speak of "knock-outfase".  So it becomes "Ik wil ook de knock-outfase bereiken van de Champions Cup dit seizoen". Dutch people would understand this far better.

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Discuss is being tanslated as 'Discussiëren" in the menubar. I totally understand where it's coming from.  But Discuss in Dutch can mean 2 things: 

  • you disagree with another and want to convince that person of the correctness of your point of view. Both sides use arguments to defend their position.
  • You want to talk abouth someting with someone. "To discuss something" means "iets bespreken" 

In this menu is meant "Bespreken". This would be the correct translation.

 

 

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How have you come to settle on your current tactical approach? 

is being translated as

Ben je van plan de huidige tactische aanpak te gebruiken?

This is not a good translation because it doens't involve the conclusion that the manager settled for an approach. Better would be

Je lijkt voor een vaste tactische aanpak te hebben gekozen. Hoe ben je hiertoe gekomen?

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On 29/11/2020 at 18:06, ^1Not^22^3B^4Reanimated said:

Roberto Firmino blokkeert het pad van Bednarek goed is being transalted as Roberto Firmino blocks the path van Bednarek 

The goalie Bednarek blocks the path

So it should be the other way around -> Bednarek blokkeert het pad van Roberto Firmino goed

Propably the variables are switched in the programcode.

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thanks - looks correct in the translation so must be the code - do you have a save game file?

 

[%male#1-surname] does well to block [%male#2-surname]{s} path
{upper}[%male#1-surname] blokkeert het pad van {upper}[%male#2-surname] goed

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Brian Stapleton

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On 28/11/2020 at 10:30, wouterb said:

 

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This is not right. I played the home game and it says 'voor eigen publiek in de uitwedstrijd' which means 'for your own fans in the away game'

 

there might be a mistranslation here


KEY-296743-M: After narrowly winning the first leg, are [%male#1-you] confident of getting a result in the second leg away to such a tough opponent?
STR-1: Na de nipte zege voor eigen publiek in de uitwedstrijd moeten jullie het in de thuiswedstrijd afmaken. Denk je dat jullie het gaan redden tegen een tegenstander van dit kaliber?[%male#1-hidden]


KEY-296744-M: With a comfortable first leg lead in the bag, [%male#1-you] must be confident of progressing to the next round. Do [%male#1-you] think [%male#1-you] can get the result [%male#1-you] need?
STR-1: Na de ruime zege voor eigen publiek in de uitwedstrijd staan jullie met één been in de volgende ronde. Denk je dat jullie in de thuiswedstrijd het benodigde resultaat zullen behalen? [%male#1-hidden]
 

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On 01/12/2020 at 15:02, Brian Stapleton said:

 

there might be a mistranslation here


KEY-296743-M: After narrowly winning the first leg, are [%male#1-you] confident of getting a result in the second leg away to such a tough opponent?
STR-1: Na de nipte zege voor eigen publiek in de uitwedstrijd moeten jullie het in de thuiswedstrijd afmaken. Denk je dat jullie het gaan redden tegen een tegenstander van dit kaliber?[%male#1-hidden]


KEY-296744-M: With a comfortable first leg lead in the bag, [%male#1-you] must be confident of progressing to the next round. Do [%male#1-you] think [%male#1-you] can get the result [%male#1-you] need?
STR-1: Na de ruime zege voor eigen publiek in de uitwedstrijd staan jullie met één been in de volgende ronde. Denk je dat jullie in de thuiswedstrijd het benodigde resultaat zullen behalen? [%male#1-hidden]
 

The English version is talking about first legs, and the Dutch about the away game. The translation for first leg is `heenwedstrijd`. The second leg is `terugwedstrijd`. It's hard to translate one on one but I would go for something like:

KEY-296743-M: After narrowly winning the first leg, are [%male#1-you] confident of getting a result in the second leg away to such a tough opponent?
STR-1: Na de nipte zege voor in de heenwedstrijd, denk je dat jullie het gaan redden in de terugwedstrijd tegen een tegenstander van dit kaliber?[%male#1-hidden]


KEY-296744-M: With a comfortable first leg lead in the bag, [%male#1-you] must be confident of progressing to the next round. Do [%male#1-you] think [%male#1-you] can get the result [%male#1-you] need?
STR-1: Na de ruime zege voor in de heenwedstrijd staan jullie met één been in de volgende ronde. Denk je dat jullie in de terugwedstrijd het benodigde resultaat zullen behalen? [%male#1-hidden]

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dont know this is right thread but the bolton wanderers stadium is still called "Reebok stadium" in dutch. When i change my language fe English, the stadium called correctly: The University of Bolton Stadium".

Can this be correctly changed? Because only in dutch database its incorrect. Sorry if its the wrong thread (nothing to do with database)...

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On 01/12/2020 at 14:59, Brian Stapleton said:

Can you provide a save game and we can investigate

I already modified it using the ingame editor - but a starting a new game has the same - looking in de editor i see the short name is just in cyrillic  not sure what a save game has to do with that

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2 hours ago, Dropveter said:

I already modified it using the ingame editor - but a starting a new game has the same - looking in de editor i see the short name is just in cyrillic  not sure what a save game has to do with that

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This is down to some third party add on you have installed/are using that changes names. So nothing we can help on here

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On 03/12/2020 at 15:53, Woodg SI said:

This is down to some third party add on you have installed/are using that changes names. So nothing we can help on here

Edit, indeed i have, thanks.

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I agree that even in English the two sentences starting with "Congratulations....." and "I'm happy..." look very much alike! Someone from SI should look into this. 

But to translate the 2 sentences exactly the same in Dutch looks weird.

I suggest one sentence get amendend:

I'm happy with your performaces out there. Enjoy your syccess lads!    ->    "Ik ben blij met jullie prestaties op het veld. Geniet van jullie succes jongens!

 

 

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Hi,

When you start a save in Dutch you get this overview.

On the right you see the players who are loaned in or out.

Unos Spajic is loaned in from Krasnodar, but it says "verhuurd" which means "loaned out".

"Loaned in from" should be translated to "gehuurd van".

"Loaned out to" should be translated to "verhuurd aan". (Not "naar")

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On 07/12/2020 at 18:54, ^1Not^22^3B^4Reanimated said:

I agree that even in English the two sentences starting with "Congratulations....." and "I'm happy..." look very much alike! Someone from SI should look into this. 

But to translate the 2 sentences exactly the same in Dutch looks weird.

I suggest one sentence get amendend:

I'm happy with your performaces out there. Enjoy your syccess lads!    ->    "Ik ben blij met jullie prestaties op het veld. Geniet van jullie succes jongens!

 

 

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OK checked on this:

 

Turns out we have three very similar strings and they actually have the same translation - please feel free to suggest some variety in the below and I can update:

 

KEY-332733: Congratulations, that was a good performance out there.[COMMENT: team talk - team: congrats minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd, jongens. Goed gespeeld.

 

KEY-332732-M: Congratulations lads, [%male#1-I]'m happy with your performances out there.[COMMENT: team talk - team: congrats minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd jongens. Goed gespeeld.

 

KEY-333221-M: [%male#1-I]'m happy with your performances out there. Enjoy your success lads![COMMENT: team talk - team: fantastic result minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd jongens. Goed gespeeld.

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18 hours ago, StojC said:

Hi,

When you start a save in Dutch you get this overview.

On the right you see the players who are loaned in or out.

Unos Spajic is loaned in from Krasnodar, but it says "verhuurd" which means "loaned out".

"Loaned in from" should be translated to "gehuurd van".

"Loaned out to" should be translated to "verhuurd aan". (Not "naar")

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thanks, checking this

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On 07/12/2020 at 19:08, ^1Not^22^3B^4Reanimated said:

mazalla should be mezalla

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Good spot! That's been in for a few years. Thanks for the report.

Fixed now but note as it's in the database this can only go into the final data update in Feb/Mar time.

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On 09/12/2020 at 10:52, Brian Stapleton said:

what's ths issue here?

look at these celebrations, how great are they?

Is translated as "Kijk naar de vreugde, hoe mooi zijn ze" but vreugde is not plural (zijn ze) but singular (is dit). So it should be "Kijk naar de vreugde, hoe mooi is dit? "

geweldig is a better translation for "great" then "mooi". So suggestion: "Kijk naar de vreugde, hoe geweldig is dit? "

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On 09/12/2020 at 10:46, Brian Stapleton said:

OK checked on this:

 

Turns out we have three very similar strings and they actually have the same translation - please feel free to suggest some variety in the below and I can update:

 

KEY-332733: Congratulations, that was a good performance out there.[COMMENT: team talk - team: congrats minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd, jongens. Goed gespeeld.

Suggestion: Gefelicteerd, dat was een prima vertoning.

KEY-332732-M: Congratulations lads, [%male#1-I]'m happy with your performances out there.[COMMENT: team talk - team: congrats minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd jongens. Goed gespeeld.

Suggestion: Gefeliciteerd jongens. Ik ben blij met jullie prestaties op het veld.

KEY-333221-M: [%male#1-I]'m happy with your performances out there. Enjoy your success lads![COMMENT: team talk - team: fantastic result minor comp, long]

STR-1: Gefeliciteerd jongens. Goed gespeeld.

Suggestion: Ik ben blij met jullie prestaties op het veld. Geniet er van, jongens!

see suggestions in blue above:

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When you ask the agent for the player availability the reason is giving, but in the translation it is mentioned as 'en', so it becomes a sum up - which is wrong. Also there is a mixed of current and past.

So in my opinion in the example below, the correct way the first sentence should be written is:

Hij heeft nu geen interesse om voor AFC Ajax te tekenen omdat hij net zijn contract heeft verlengd. 

This logic could then be applied to the other options as well.

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De goede, jonge Nederlander, een aanvallende middenvelder uit Gemeente Velsen sprint in het oog - > should be-> Er is een goede jonge Nederlandse aanvaller uit Gemeente Velsen die in het oog springt.

Het lijkt er niet op of er nieuwe verdedigende middenvelders .. should be->  Het lijkt er niet op dat er nieuwe verdedigende middenvelders...

lijken te kort te komen op het niveau dat... -> should be -> lijken te kort te komen voor het niveau dat...

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