under review Font is blurry (difficult to read) on 1920x1080 resolution (full-screen)

[Neil Brock 5,831]

14 hours ago, Machad0 said:

Any news on when this update is going to be available??

I mean its been a while now and it is sad that we have paid all that money and cant play the game.

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

[jeff.fit82 88]

1 hora atrás, Neil Brock disse:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

Well, i respect your research...

But there's nothing "user defined" here...

To test, I've formatted my PC, installed Windows again, installed FM21, and the problem was there...

Everything here is default, to test properly.

[Serkan FY 15]

2 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

Thanks for the information.

But I don't think it's relevant to Windows display settings in anyway. Personally, my settings are always default. In this topic, you can also see a simultaneous comparison of FM20 and FM21 showing that the ingame text quality is vastly downgraded.

Regards.

[IrrelevantLion 217]

2 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

Mine are default too

[Murraymint 20]

48 minutes ago, IrrelevantLion said:

Mine are default too

Default here as well

[LXLMR 2]

3 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

I have default display settings too.

Okay, if you claim that I can achieve clear fonts by changing the display parameters - then tell us what we need to change in this parameters.

Edited November 30, 2020 by LXLMR

[Kingpit 8]

guys i think i found a temporary solution for those who desperately want to play the game.

on nvidia control panel colour settings change the gamma option from 1.00 to 2.00 .( or just as far as the screen is acceptably bright for you . )

you can also lower brightness to make it even better.

[LXLMR 2]

53 minutes ago, Kingpit said:

guys i think i found a temporary solution for those who desperately want to play the game.

on nvidia control panel colour settings change the gamma option from 1.00 to 2.00 .( or just as far as the screen is acceptably bright for you . )

you can also lower brightness to make it even better.

It doesn't work for me. Still eyesbleeding fonts.

[oulzac 250]

6 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

This is incorrect. It has nothing to do with user defined settings what so ever. It is the fact the game can not render in 1080P properly. My monitor can not output any other resolution than 1920x1080. This can not be changed. You would know this if someone in the company bought a 1080P monitor and actually tested it to see for themselves. This is not a user defined setting via windows or the video card. It is an an issue with the game itself. I'm starting to think I need to demand my money back from steam for this years version. Because it is starting feel like you will never be able to resolve this. Its been weeks, and the people working on it don't seem to even understand the actual issue is. No other piece of software has this issue. Not even older versions of FM. To emphasize this, if I hook up an old 1440 monitor to this PC (with no setting changes what so ever), it looks fine on that monitor. But I refuse to use that old small monitor. I want to use my nice big curved samsung 32" monitor that works flawlessly with everything but FM21. I'm a little shocked and flustered this is taking so long to figure out on your end. I provided all this info in the topic I created, which seems to have been ignored in favor of this one.

[LXLMR 2]

50 minutes ago, oulzac said:

This is incorrect. It has nothing to do with user defined settings what so ever. It is the fact the game can not render in 1080P properly. My monitor can not output any other resolution than 1920x1080. This can not be changed. You would know this if someone in the company bought a 1080P monitor and actually tested it to see for themselves. This is not a user defined setting via windows or the video card. It is an an issue with the game itself. I'm starting to think I need to demand my money back from steam for this years version. Because it is starting feel like you will never be able to resolve this. Its been weeks, and the people working on it don't seem to even understand the actual issue is. No other piece of software has this issue. Not even older versions of FM. To emphasize this, if I hook up an old 1440 monitor to this PC (with no setting changes what so ever), it looks fine on that monitor. But I refuse to use that old small monitor. I want to use my nice big curved samsung 32" monitor that works flawlessly with everything but FM21. I'm a little shocked and flustered this is taking so long to figure out on your end. I provided all this info in the topic I created, which seems to have been ignored in favor of this one.

It's also with HD-Laptops, not only Full HD... Sometimes I want to return the money for this, but I tried to solve this problem for 5 hours of playing, I'm afraid Steam won't return my money... Developers are more concerned with the Korean language in hotfixes than with the terrible fonts, and this is sad for a game with a price like as if it were an EA - AAA project.

Come on, SI, you need to hotfixed it, not excuses about screen settings.

Edited November 30, 2020 by LXLMR

[Faicoh 5]

37 minutes ago, oulzac said:

This is incorrect. It has nothing to do with user defined settings what so ever. It is the fact the game can not render in 1080P properly. My monitor can not output any other resolution than 1920x1080. This can not be changed. You would know this if someone in the company bought a 1080P monitor and actually tested it to see for themselves. This is not a user defined setting via windows or the video card. It is an an issue with the game itself. I'm starting to think I need to demand my money back from steam for this years version. Because it is starting feel like you will never be able to resolve this. Its been weeks, and the people working on it don't seem to even understand the actual issue is. No other piece of software has this issue. Not even older versions of FM. To emphasize this, if I hook up an old 1440 monitor to this PC (with no setting changes what so ever), it looks fine on that monitor. But I refuse to use that old small monitor. I want to use my nice big curved samsung 32" monitor that works flawlessly with everything but FM21. I'm a little shocked and flustered this is taking so long to figure out on your end. I provided all this info in the topic I created, which seems to have been ignored in favor of this one.

I share the same feelings, first time i buy a game and is literally unplayable, for a bug that has been reported from the first day of the beta. Frustating

[jeff.fit82 88]

Well, guys... I've been here before

FM20 had Bugs when was released, and they always blamed the user, the user's PC, they asked for logs, screenshots, latest version of Windows, latest version of nVidia drivers...and all that stuff...

And in the end, was SI fault...

The screenshot was given, the problem exist, fixes were released, and still nothing happened, THERE ARE NOT EVEN WHITE SKIN THIS YEAR...haha seems a joke! 

 

[teep007 6]

I played all the FM'S and none were blurred I didn't change any settings and the FM 21 was completely blurred. I tried to change everything and it doesn't work, I put everything back by default, I expect quick resolution, I can't play

[jeff.fit82 88]

Well, today i've decided something...
Pretend FM21 didnt exists!!!

less stress in my life, more pleasure...

then, lets go! cheers!

[fulhamross 11]

12 hours ago, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

default settings here. i have done a full system restore in windows too and am still getting blurry screen. annoying i still cant play this game  

[Neil Brock 5,831]

There's a lot of users playing without blurry text issues, so it's not completely widespread. Regardless, we're looking to address the issue as soon as we're able to, so anyone who notices it or is affected by it should see an improvement.

Thanks. 

[山泥若的父亲 1]

On 30/11/2020 at 17:24, Neil Brock said:

As soon as we'll be able to do so. We're finding it's affecting users with certain types of user defined display settings, so in the meantime if you try changing these via Windows display settings you may find you can get it displaying without issue. 

Mine are default too

[zenphilo 0]

We had one taste and they stole it from us. I'm depressed! We are waiting!

[jeff.fit82 88]

Well, seem that the game is now running fine...nah?

nobody talking in the thread, and they've put in the title (CLOSING SOON) LOL!!  why closing?
i think that its just me with a blurry game haha...

[teep007 6]

they cannot close the topic without resolution.
I paid I want to play the game at 100%

[山泥若的父亲 1]

If this issue can not be solved, I will be very disappointed

[jeff.fit82 88]

37 minutos atrás, 山泥若的父亲 disse:

If this issue can not be solved, I will be very disappointed

well, after another day without any "new" word...any new patch or fix

i think you can already start to cry lol

[Dujo 16]

On 30/11/2020 at 23:36, Neil Brock said:

There's a lot of users playing without blurry text issues, so it's not completely widespread. Regardless, we're looking to address the issue as soon as we're able to, so anyone who notices it or is affected by it should see an improvement.

Thanks. 

Let me ask you something. We do different jobs so we can get salaries and to afford buying games and other things in life that are needed, and now we cannot even play it. Do you think this seems fair for us to wait that long that you guys fix game, which is I am sure pretty simple problem to fix (I see this topic was made on november 10th, and you guys still didn't fix the problem)?! Obviously you guys don't give AF for us players. Just take money and after that when A LOT OF PEOPLE has problems you say "you guys are minority and it's not our top priority to fix this problem" (it sounded like that from your message above). Be fair and give us at least approximate date when the fix will be out... 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Dujo

[Machad0 3]

Any ETA for this update that we have been waiting since day one??

[jeff.fit82 88]

25 minutos atrás, Dujo disse:

Let me ask you something. We do different jobs so we can get salaries and to afford buying games and other things in life that are needed, and now we cannot even play it. Do you think this seems fair for us to wait that long that you guys fix game, which is I am sure pretty simple problem to fix (I see this topic was made on november 10th, and you guys still didn't fix the problem)?! Obviously you guys don't give AF for us players. Just take money and after that when A LOT OF PEOPLE has problems you say "you guys are minority and it's not our top priority to fix this problem" (it sounded like that from your message above). Be fair and give us at least approximate date when the fix will be out... 

well said mate, lets hope someone speaks about it soon...

[XRIYIAS23 2]

I am very disappointed with this..I have been playing the game for 15 years, an official announcement must come out otherwise we will ask for our money back. I personally can not play like that at all.

[Faronizer 24]

Here is a screenshot taken on a 1440p screen with 100% ingame-scaling.
The 2nd "Advanced" below was added outside of the game with what I think matches the ingame font (GT-America Regular)



There is something very wrong with the font rendering as you can see alot of artefacts on the ingame fonts (and no that's not due to image compression).
It's my first FM and I didn't play yet, cause I just can't read the text. Very disappointing to say the least.

Another example showing the strange color artefacts (500% zoomed in from 100% ingame scaling).
For me that induces an impression of "flickering" that causes massive eye-strain.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Faronizer

[XRIYIAS23 2]

55 minutes ago, Faronizer said:

Here is a screenshot taken on a 1440p screen with 100% ingame-scaling.
The 2nd "Advanced" below was added outside of the game with what I think matches the ingame font (GT-America Regular)



There is something very wrong with the font rendering as you can see alot of artefacts on the ingame fonts (and no that's not due to image compression).
It's my first FM and I didn't play yet, cause I just can't read the text. Very disappointing to say the least.

we need to know if they will fix it. It has been many days since we reported this problem.

 

 

 

 

 

for a bug that has been reported from the first day of the beta.

[jeff.fit82 88]

1 hora atrás, Faronizer disse:

Here is a screenshot taken on a 1440p screen with 100% ingame-scaling.
The 2nd "Advanced" below was added outside of the game with what I think matches the ingame font (GT-America Regular)



There is something very wrong with the font rendering as you can see alot of artefacts on the ingame fonts (and no that's not due to image compression).
It's my first FM and I didn't play yet, cause I just can't read the text. Very disappointing to say the least.

Another example showing the strange color artefacts (500% zoomed in from 100% ingame scaling).
For me that induces an impression of "flickering" that causes massive eye-strain.

As I've said before...

Wow, well done bringing this image

The game seems unfinished, released just to be released, untested, the quality this year didn't seems the same...

FM has been in my life since i was a teenager, and this version seems to be the worst finished of all time

THERE'S NOT EVEN WHITE SKIN!!! HAHA

And why?

TO HIDE THE PROBLEM I THINK...

In a white skin...this blurry "feature" would be great...haha

[Levitte 0]

new update, seems to have solved the problem

Minor Update 21.1.3 (includes but not limited to):
----------------------------------------------------------
- Updates to competition and registration rules in nations including Croatia, Israel, Romania, Portugal and South Korea
- Specific tweaks and updates to Brexit and work permit rules in-game
- Addressing in-game text appearing blurry in certain resolutions
- Crash and Stability fixes
- Editor fixes including those related to passing basic rules test and adding additional divisions
- Improvements to newgen generation in inactive leagues
- Reduced examples of lag appearing within development centre
- Fixed rare example where player could get stuck at kick-off after half time
- Addressed hotseat issue where 'awaiting media reaction' would stay on screen
- Touchline tablet no longer showing incorrect team on shot map
- Improved functionality of dragging players on squad screen

Edited December 2, 2020 by Levitte

[IrrelevantLion 217]

Great news 

[PequenoGenio 116]

[fm2020lva 4]

Just tested, seems fixed for me

[Serkan FY 15]

Tested now and can say it's fixed.

[Cloonix 11]

I envy you guys. For me it's not fixed. Just updated to 21.1.3 and deleted the cache. 

 

EDIT: I think it's a little bit better. 

Edited December 2, 2020 by Cloonix

[Faronizer 24]

For me it's not completely fixed either. On 150% ingaming scaling (1440p resolution) it looks fine now and white text does not have any colored subpixel.
However, 100% and 125% ingame scaling is just as bad as before with white text being distorted by colored pixel inducing a flickering / slight blur effect.

[oulzac 250]

Not completely fixed for me either. The weird underline thing on bold text is gone. But it still has a bright fuzzy halo to all the white text in the game. Which makes it look very blurry and hard to read (and again, only in FM21). Also how do we still not have a dark or light official skin either? Why are we stuck with this purple only this year? I think that might be what is making it look so bad. I always switch to the dark theme.

EDIT: I just switched to a dark custom theme and it looks perfectly fine. But, the theme also changed the font as well. So I guess I'll just be playing with a custom themes only this year. So I guess thanks for the partial fix SI. At least its readable for me now with this non official theme.

Edited December 2, 2020 by oulzac

[Faicoh 5]

10 minutes ago, oulzac said:

Not completely fixed for me either. The weird underline thing on bold text is gone. But it still has a bright fuzzy halo to all the white text in the game. Which makes it look very blurry and hard to read (and again, only in FM21). Also how do we still not have a dark or light official skin either? Why are we stuck with this purple only this year? I think that might be what is making it look so bad. I always switch to the dark theme.

EDIT: I just switched to a dark custom theme and it looks perfectly fine. But, the theme also changed the font as well. So I guess I'll just be playing with a custom themes only this year. So I guess thanks for the partial fix SI. At least its readable for me now with this non official theme.

Which custom skin are you using? ^^

[oulzac 250]

5 minutes ago, Faicoh said:

Which custom skin are you using? ^^

So far I've tried Heffem, Kojuro and Material (all can be found on FMScout website). And they all look better than the default skin. Not 100% prefect, but readable enough for me.

[hujan2589 1]

Its fix guys. New update. 

thank god for this update! 

[lovesick 3]

finally

[Dujo 16]

Seems it's little bit better but not fully fixed... 

[jeff.fit82 88]

18 minutos atrás, Dujo disse:

Seems it's little bit better but not fully fixed... 

Lol, hey guys... you're never satisfied 😂

wait til FM22 then! Bye hahaha

[Dujo 16]

51 minutes ago, jeff.fit82 said:

Lol, hey guys... you're never satisfied 😂

wait til FM22 then! Bye hahaha

It's better when I put it on 110% zoom, but it's still not 100% clarity.

[jeff.fit82 88]

21 minutos atrás, Dujo disse:

It's better when I put it on 110% zoom, but it's still not 100% clarity.

Yeah mate, im feeling the same here now...

im playing in 110%, cause i've paid a lot of money for this, and ill play anyway lol

[Machad0 3]

Same here...still gives me headache on 100% have to play on 110 or 125%...at least they are working on it but i hope that this is not their final fix..its just better but not ideal...

[oulzac 250]

I just went and bought a $300 AOC (never heard of them before today) 4K monitor. Guess what, it looks amazing on that. I swap back to my $500 Samsung 1080P monitor, complete crap. I'll be selling the Samsung asap.

[Martini 34]

I got the feeling that it isn't the brand, the resolution, or another thing but the panel, IPS, VA, TN, PLS etc, behave differently, anyway great that they improved the text as it was unplayable, it isn't perfect and could do some sharpening but it's way better than before, weird that this game is the only one affected from my 100+ game library.

Well done improving it.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Martini

[fulhamross 11]

What's the best skin to use that is most similar to TCS? 

 

I used TCS last year but have seen he has stopped doing them? 

[jeff.fit82 88]

10 horas atrás, oulzac disse:

I just went and bought a $300 AOC (never heard of them before today) 4K monitor. Guess what, it looks amazing on that. I swap back to my $500 Samsung 1080P monitor, complete crap. I'll be selling the Samsung asap.

LOL What you mean?

SI and Football Manager team are acting together, for us to change our monitors??  HAHAHA