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Just now, witticism said:

Process of elimination leaves out a natural MC to possibly be good as they werent mentioned specifically as being bad so there's hope!

Yeah, that or goalkeeper, but it's kinda the hard way of saying it...

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Well, this was a new one. My starting winger have decided he is not good enough to play for the club and wants to be transfer listed and move on... Uhh...

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Second intake is in, apparently my HoyD was dead wrong as my best players are not GKs or CMs...

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Not much to shout about, Njoku looks okay, but he's another left footed defender when I'm in desperate need of a RB, although there is one RB that may do for now.

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9 minutes ago, witticism said:

I'd be keen on a left footed RB even excluding Guardiola ambitions, plus, any port in a storm, talent overcomes footedness I'd wager.

Yeah, that's defintely an option, and I suppose it is the nature of the challenge that I may have to force square pegs in to round holes, for some reason I'm just not comfortably with an all left footed defence. It's unnatural!

Although reassessing my squad, it does allow me to solve another issue and move a player from last years intake (Jamie Rolls [22D]) in to midfield where I needed bodies too whilst Njoku becomes my backup CB.

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17 minutes ago, Cheez3y said:

If I want to be in charge of the U21 and U19 (settin up the formation for e.g.) I need to cull the U21 & U19 manager?

Just change the responsibility to yourself in the Staff Options no?

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19 minutes ago, Cheez3y said:

Nah, i change so much but nothing worked.

Only when I dont had a U21 manager it forced my to select and play the U21 games.

wow you are going hardcore with playing the U21 games yourself!

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6 minutes ago, jmonfu said:

wow you are going hardcore with playing the U21 games yourself!

idk yet, if this is the only chance.

I want this guy to be played in the midfield as Carrilero, but everytime my U18 manager plays him as RB.

Even though he is only 17, he is to slow to be a wingback, to short to be a centerback.

But in the midfield as Carrilero (as supporting player) he could be an option for me.

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20 minutes ago, Cheez3y said:

idk yet, if this is the only chance.

I want this guy to be played in the midfield as Carrilero, but everytime my U18 manager plays him as RB.

Even though he is only 17, he is to slow to be a wingback, to short to be a centerback.

But in the midfield as Carrilero (as supporting player) he could be an option for me.

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maybe put him in the first team, training as CM (Carillero) and available for U/21 U/18, once he gains knowledge of the CM position maybe he will be played there by your youth coaches. And in the meantime give him some small appearances with the main team.  Is that an option?  I would not take over the U21 and U18 just for 1 player to play Carillero, but that's me.

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South Shields 2025 Youth Intake

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My now ex-Fairly Professional HoYD brought in a class that is the best mentally and physically that we've had but worse technically that last year's class.  The personalities took a hit too.  He brought in six negative personalities (3 unambitious, 2 low determination, and 1 easily discouraged) while only bringing in three positive personalities (1 resolute, 1 professional and 1 fairly professional).  There's some talent here that will join the first team but I'm not expecting much/hoping my HoYD is wrong.

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Iraqi by birth but to English parents, Al-Ali brings in a much needed presence on the left wing.  I've been filling in with central midfielders or center forwards on can play on the left wing.  The 4-1-2-2-1 and 4-2-3-1 aren't working like I hoped so I've gone back to a more basic 4-4-2 and need a true left winger.

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A center back who can't mark and can barely tackle is not a great thing.  I may try to convert him into a defensive midfielder as an anchor man or ball-winner.

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Laws is a natural central midfielder who can play out on the left wing as needed but his more natural position is in the middle of the field.  

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Undersized Polish midfielder Kwiatkowski has English parents and brings a great first touch and pace to South Shields.  He could find a role with the team if he continues to develop.

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Howell is the type of center back that I need.  He can mark and tackle.  His positioning is good.  He's a bit on the slow side but everything else looks to be good (for this level).

 

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1 hour ago, jmonfu said:

maybe put him in the first team, training as CM (Carillero) and available for U/21 U/18, once he gains knowledge of the CM position maybe he will be played there by your youth coaches. And in the meantime give him some small appearances with the main team.  Is that an option?  I would not take over the U21 and U18 just for 1 player to play Carillero, but that's me.

Why not just try it?

For Science!

I fired my U21 manager and suddently Im in charge of the U21.

I can select now everything and I can choose to play it or to quick sim it.

 

Hmm maybe I go for it ,but I will just quick sim it.

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2 minutes ago, hubwub said:

Another person playing in China. Welcome @Flashman\'s School Days!

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What's the stats on your HOYD?

Thanks @hubwub, I got in this guy from a Chinese football school, his personality isn't the best but he's leaps and bounds better at coaching than anyone at the club which is helpful as I'm not allowed any U19 staff apart from the U19 Manager

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Seb , i have a new question; We know (because of this great topic ) what will influence the youth intake quality. For improving the personalities, does it help to have staff (senior and or youth staff) with good personalties? Or is the personalty of the hoyd the only important one? I always try to find staff with good personalties but not sure if this works all the time.

3 hours ago, Seb Wassell said:

You want all youth related staff to have 'preferable' personalities, but the HoYD is the key.

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AS Rodos - 2024/25 Season Review

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A really frustrating season of inconsistency when I'd expected a genuine promotion challenge. We started the season with only 1 win in 7 games which should have ended any hopes of promotion we had, but the rest of the league were also poor meaning we only ended up 8 points from the playoff spot - 4 less than less season. Anything like last seasons form would have taken us up, last seasons points total would have seen us finish second so the inconsistency was even more infuriating. We were also dumped out of the cup by a lower league team at the first hurdle, less said about that the better.

 

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A lot of younger players in the first team squad now which is possibly the reason we found winning runs so hard to come by. Arkoulos, Mulaj and Mantikos are now mainstays in the starting 11 with other youngsters filling the bench and getting regular minutes. 

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Still not overly happy with the personalities but they are in improvement on previous intakes. For the first time I didn't sign all the candidates with only the first 7 from the list taken on this season. Martinis is the pick of the bunch and is already training with the first team.

 

Next Season

I'm not very good at predicting these am I?! At the end of last season I expected a serious promotion push after the year on year improvement and we ended up spending most of this season in 12th place until an upturn in form in the last month of the season shot us into the top half. Larisa have managed to survive in the top division this season so we don't have to deal with them coming down, if we can get off to a strong start I'm hoping the momentum will be able to keep us up around the top end next term.

 

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Hey all- I am about to start my second season and need some advice on our dire goalkeeper situation.

Who would you start? I have 3 options:

1. Last season's pacy 'keeper who has no Aerial or Jumping Reach as he's 178cm.

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2. A 17yo Basque 'keeper about to come back from loan from our affiliates who can jump but can't run or be trusted to kick, throw or talk.

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Or 3. A large 15yo at 194cm who also can't run, but has pretty good jumping reach and the added extra of (sort of) being able to take a first touch when compared to the other two.

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1 hour ago, Flashman\'s School Days said:

Thanks @hubwub, I got in this guy from a Chinese football school, his personality isn't the best but he's leaps and bounds better at coaching than anyone at the club which is helpful as I'm not allowed any U19 staff apart from the U19 Manager

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In my game, he is still at Luneng Football School. He is getting paid €10 p/w in my game and his contract ends at the end of the 2023 season. CRAZY!

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Season 2021/22 

Table Fixtures 1 Fixtures 2 Transfer History 

Last four games. 

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Due to the weird and wonderful nature of South American football we entered the Copa Argentina cup competition at the fifth round and defeated fellow second division side Gimnasia (Jujuy) and got an away draw to namesakes Club Atletico Talleres from the top tier in the 6th round but that game won't take place until next season. 

Forgot to get a screenshot of my squad before the season rolled over.

As for the table, very pleased with a 7th place finish in my first season at the club when the board expectation was simply to fight bravely against the drop. We were never in any trouble of even getting dragged into a relegation battle at any point of the season and narrowly missed out on making the promotion play off by four points but truth be told I'm quite content to be a stable second division side for a few seasons whilst I blood the first batch of youngsters from my first youth intake. Lovely season ending victory at the champions!

So yeah, next season will be a case of revamping the first team squad, out with the old and in with the new, quite literally in this case. Due to this a tougher season than the first is half anticipated, would make sense so simply staying in the division is my aim again. 

Staff wise there's been a lot of changes here too, most notably the HoYD is gone! He's out the door. Out of contract and I had no intention of renewing his deal. So I'm on the lookout for a new HoYD with hopefully a better personality than the last one (Balanced) and fitting my tactical preference(s) would be grand. 

 

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No matter how frustrating this challenge becomes for you at times, remember it could be worse. Spare a thought for the newly promoted team in my division Diagoras, who followed up their opening day 8-1 defeat at Volos with an 8-0 rousting at home against my rampant Rodos team. I'm hoping this is a sign of good things for me, but realistically they seem so bad that this might end up being a regular scoreline for them.

 

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I should be working on my big project at work, but now I have season 05 on my mind....... :rolleyes:

Thinking of shaking things up after 4 years of attacking football, the past two years of which have not really gotten us anywhere.

I want to change things up and try and grind out boring results, but it could be managerial suicide :(

The board have been spoilt;

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I think I can provide the top one, I obviously can give the bottom one.  Attacking, possession & entertaining.....  Hoping they can see past those, with importance flagged as just 'favoured'

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I think the youth intake previews are largely garbage. Sometimes there's a big correlation, sometimes a bit, sometimes none.

They as well be called a Youth Intake Horoscope.

My first (and therefore in FM21 only one said, At least 1 of our full backs has plenty of promise. I got 2 full-backs and they had the lowest potential. One of them was a Cypriot who had caught the eye. Maybe he caught the eye because he's useless, but you know, they are all pretty useless.

Neither of them (the fullbacks) shows any sign of having any potential.

So sure, if it says there's a young player from x place, there will one, and i'm sure a 'golden generation' is more likely to be good than a 'don't expect much'. I dare say there is some correlation between preview and actual intakes, just as I believe Seb that your HoYD's personality influence the kids', but in actuality it's pretty invisible to me.

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Íþróttafélag Reykjavíkur (ÍR)

Start of season 2022

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Although I enjoyed the start of my save with Alemannia Aachen, I couldn't 'click' with the save. I wanted something different then playing in Germany. So I decided to go back to Iceland. And there is only one club where I want to play with: IR. I fell in love with the club when I had a great save with them in FM17. The only save I had with FM17 was with IR, for about 30 seasons. And with a squad full of acadamy players we first won the Europa League and eventually the Champions League. I didn't follow the exact rules of this topic, because I allowed myself to buy academy players back. And after I won the Europa League with only youth players, I allowed myself to buy a maximum of 3 players. And a couple of seasons later we won the Champions League. I really enjoyed that save, it was by far my favorite CM/FM ever.

So yeah, the main reason to start with IR is because of that experience. But now I want to follow the rules of this challenge.

Let's go!

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5 minutes ago, Winski said:

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Íþróttafélag Reykjavíkur (ÍR)

Start of season 2022

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Although I enjoyed the start of my save with Alemannia Aachen, I couldn't 'click' with the save. I wanted something different then playing in Germany. So I decided to go back to Iceland. And there is only one club where I want to play with: IR. I fell in love with the club when I had a great save with them in FM17. The only save I had with FM17 was with IR, for about 30 seasons. And with a squad full of acadamy players we first won the Europa League and eventually the Champions League. I didn't follow the exact rules of this topic, because I allowed myself to buy academy players back. And after I won the Europa League with only youth players, I allowed myself to buy a maximum of 3 players. And a couple of seasons later we won the Champions League. I really enjoyed that save, it was by far my favorite CM/FM ever.

So yeah, the main reason to start with IR is because of that experience. But now I want to follow the rules of this challenge.

Let's go!

Good luck, u know i love the club since last year and reading your old topic !

 

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1 hour ago, Winski said:

Very good news, guys!

That's fantastic! I'm totally starting the challenge after these news. 
Can anyone give me any advice on choosing a country to start? I've always played in most known leagues (Spain, England etc), any recomendation for interesting countries?

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Youth Intake 2024 

 

Well, a dissapointing intake this season! Our HOYD has a contract that expires after this season and even though I can't offer much of a salary I hope to replace him. We can't handle too many intakes as bad as this one. Low potential and terrible personalities!

The only player likely to have a bright future is Marco Gomez. He's a central midfielder which is good, but only 8 in determination and "low self belief" personality :( 

Anyone have any experience working with that personality? I'm actually considering bringing him up to the first team to receive mentoring and train with them right from the start. 

 

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6 hours ago, Motlhen said:

Hey all- I am about to start my second season and need some advice on our dire goalkeeper situation.

Who would you start? I have 3 options:

1. Last season's pacy 'keeper who has no Aerial or Jumping Reach as he's 178cm.

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2. A 17yo Basque 'keeper about to come back from loan from our affiliates who can jump but can't run or be trusted to kick, throw or talk.

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Or 3. A large 15yo at 194cm who also can't run, but has pretty good jumping reach and the added extra of (sort of) being able to take a first touch when compared to the other two.

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How confiden are you about surviving? If you are super confident put one of the kids in and let them learn through experience. If not, I'd stick with the first guy. 

 

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Truro City F.C. - Wikipedia

Truro City Youth Academy Challenge
2022/23
Act III

 

"We didn't have a bad season - majority of the league did. That's the only reason why we didn't look like going down." Truro assistant, Stuart Searle, summarised the season at the final post-game press conference at Treyvew Road.

It is the harsh, honest truth. Truro City overachieved retaining the exact same position as last year. It's nothing to be ashamed about though. We fought much more valiantly and the morale is much better because we finally have a dynamic majority that want to be here. No egos. No superstars. Except for the manager of course...

Table | Squad | Transfers | Staff

High points:

  • We won huge games early on against the top-half teams to avoid relegation in the latter half of the season
  • We were a side that determined and dictated the play-off spots
  • Attacking football worked well before January and again towards April
  • Much better FA Cup run with Andrew Neal even scoring 5 goals
  • Dropping the wage bill a bit more by the month

Low points:

  • Dipped again in January from play off spots to mid-table
  • Lost another crucial veteran because of contract disputes
  • The club's in the red - just under 100K. Gotta do better in the cups.
  • Goalkeeper is being held hostage. No one wants him but still need him playing better mentally.
  • We are currently at Robin Hood status regarding points

Youth Preview | Youth Intake | Youth Squad

The money isn't there for the facility upgrades yet. Hoard mode activated. There are no standouts at all. We'll see who rises up to the challenge.

Summary

"The kids coming through are still young pups but are playing with heart and for the badge. That's what you want." - Tommo, local fan

"I have no idea what Chad says in that change-room but when the team is down at half-time, they get out that dugout for the second half like there's snipers on the roof aimed at them each. They are playing for their lives. How it used to be back in my day when I playe-..." - Gazza, lifelong fan

"I'm just a glorified babysitter. When does my team get to play in a bloody league?" - Jake Newton, U23s Manager

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End of Act III

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Vikeologist's 2nd Folkestone Intake Report

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Predictably our intake bore only limited relation to the preview, or indeed to our HoYD’s Model Professional personality.

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I’m not complaining. The preview was pretty depressing, but on arrival my HoYD spluttered out the golden generation guff.

The personalities are a problem. It will be difficult to improve them at the moment.

I’ve offered a contract to all but one of them.

4 players with 5 star potential, but nobody with much current ability. It doesn’t really suit our positional needs. I could do with a right back or a left footed left winger, but our present team is relatively young, so we still have a few years to build up our squad.

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The top prospect looks like yet another central midfielder, like last year’s top 2 prospects, but they both became instant starters, so Niall Rigg2a is close to being able to earn a spot on the bench.

Or I could try to turn him into a left winger, because he is supposedly equally good in that position. He has no speed, but as a left winger, his best role is as a defensive winger, which is what I use, and unlike all of my other left wingers, he is actually left footed. So, in the process of writing this, I’ve decided. He’s a left winger.

I don’t have high hopes for any of them, but as I say, it’s all about adding bodies at the moment.

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