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57 minutes ago, XaW said:

sign them up earlier and on bigger and longer deals

Definitely the way forwards. Any youth candidate with decent potential I try to put on a full-time contract with '3/2/1 year optional contract extension club' clauses in. It usually means you have to quite heavily boost their starting wage, but can lead to some much higher long - term profit margins for players whom will be tied down for 3 years minimum.

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CSA Steaua Bucuresti - Season 1 Liga II

Table1 -- Table2 -- Transfers -- Squad

 

Season Update

I suspected due to Romania having a viewable but not playable 3rd tier meant that the size of the squad that I inherited would be a lot more manageable than in other countries to start this off, and I was correct, us having a pretty well balanced starting XI alongside plenty players in reserve to fill the bench and some.

The first action of the save came when our best player got annoyed at me for not selling him, which also annoyed most of the rest of the squad, so I reluctantly sold him which of course annoyed more of our squad for letting a key player go, what do they want from me?

As for the on field side of things, we went well, I adopted a possession based approach which the team seemed to take well to as we set about a successful campaign. With us only playing each team once before the league split we essentially relied on our strong home record to propel us up the league as we managed to secure a 5th place finish in the opening phase (joint with 7 but for goal difference) and far from what I’d anticipated, were in with a chance at an immediate promotion.

The Champions Playoff sees the top 6 play each other in a mini league home and away so we knew if we could capitalise on our prowess in front of our own fans we might just do it. It wasn’t really our home record that did it in the end, more just us being better than 2 others as we made it to the promotion playoffs which we comfortably won in both the home and away legs to gain promotion at the first time of asking.

I don’t know whether promotion is actually good for us, I was happy enough to remain in the second tier and just build up slow, especially as the boards 5 year plan involved ‘Avoid finishing bottom of the league’ for every season, but perhaps it will bring us extra riches and allow us to more quickly improve the facilities.

We had the highest average attendance in the country this season, but when we’re charging £1 per ticket, it’s not a huge boost to the revenue really.

Youth

Intake Preview Season 1

A ‘Golden Generation’ expected from the intake preview.

Youth Intake Season 1

An underwhelming intake when it arrived, a couple of players who maybe will have an impact like Gigel Birsan, who is probably going to end up in the immediate term a back up centre back despite his height being not at all suited to playing there.

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Story So Far

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So I've managed to get a link from South America in the form of the Uruguayan team, Defensor Sporting.

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Though I think the change of having academy players from Uruguay turning up in my youth intake might be pretty solid, especially if I can also turn this into a merchandising sales thing too.

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Wow. In our first foray into continental football, we looked like flunking out in the second stage of qualifiers. We got done away in the first leg, 0 - 3, where I foolishly used the flat 4-4-2 in the first half of a European away tie. I cut my losses at half time, shifting to this defensive variant that helped us see out the game without conceding more:

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Now chasing a 3 - 0 deficit from thee first leg, I opted to deploy my attacking variant from kick - off and that had got us three first half goals!!! Her it what is being used right now:

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Come on the boys!!! I've got 45 mins to grab a goal and complete an epic turn-a-round....

Updated: And we are out. Joke of a second half. Need more quality up top.

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Season #89 - 2110/11

Another mid table finish, 10th.

Another mid season slump and we never really got going.

Ageing squad a bit at the moment so really need to have a look at phasing them out.

Jonah Manso was mentioned in the Intake Preview.

He is below, I've got high hopes for him!

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Polonia Warsaw - Season 11

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League Stats / Transfers / Transfers 2 / Best 11 / League Win

Great season. 3rd Championship and the 5th for the club! We seem to win every 3 years?! Best seaosn so far point wise! 76...one more than our former record. From december we ware leading and didn't give it awat, altough past was only 3 points behind Piast for most of the season. They ware the unexpected contender, having an averege team. Legia and Lech Poznan (champion from last year) ware very disapointing, especially as a their team was on par with ours beginning of the season. We started the seaosn with some though choices. One of team leaders...and Georgian A-International STURUA left for France for a very low fee. He had a big contract and my youngsters surpassed him by more than a star. It was time. 23 Caps and 1 goal for Georgia. 236 league games for Polonia in Ekstraklasa and 3 goals! Club legend. I hope to bring him back to the club after he retires. 2nd  choice to do was to sell KLEPACKI and go all in for 17-year old DABROWSKI as 1st 11 CD. That turned out ok I guess and DABROWSKI still has 1,5 star to grow. Sadly our other A-International BUTKUS choose to leave to M'Gladbach for 1,9mln. He was rotation anyway and I agreed to the bid...to put my ingame son into the team! PRZYBYLSKI had a good rookie season on RB but missed a bit too many games due to injuries. Same applies to MROZEK. my in-game son. Jacques OLISADEBE had a brilliant rookie season. 31 games, 4 goals and 6 assists! But most importantly he's really imporving alot. From 2 stars to 3,5. Sadly his potential is only halve a star more. Still this way he can stay a 1st 11 player for his whole career at Polonia!. I gave the young lad the same number his old man was playing in 2000 at Polonia "11". At attack GROMEK joined first team and is already 4 stars...bringing HALUCH back to only 3!. RUTKOWSKI replaced TOMCZYK who gold sold in winter break to Nijmegen for 2,5mln. We really do not need the money but his salary was high and his contract was ending next season. And RUTKOWSKI was halve a star behind. 

New record in the cup! 3rd round!!! (technically ecualised our record) still horrible. The cup games come at really bad point inbetween champions league and many league games. (excuses excuses)

 

Biggest sale of the season. Tomczyk for 2,5mln.

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Champions League

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Crazy...just crazy! we passed on to 1st knockout round!. We eleminated winners of last year AC Milan!. We lost twice to Man U. Won at home from Milan last away. equalised M'Gladbach at home and won in legandary game away 0-1!.

In knockout round we played Real Madrid. That was really a level too high. Lost at home 0-1 and 1-3 away. Still a brilliant run! I truly believe I finally have a team that can dominate Poland for the next seasons. The next step is to have some youngsters that can give us a regular CL run. 

Season Stats

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3rd Championship!. Best result in CL so far. We need to enlarge our stadium!

Affiliates

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Alot of changes this season. We lost 3 teams adn replaced them with Diosgyor in Hungary, Wisla Plock in 2nd level for loans and Cornella for hopefully some talented spanish youngsters!.

Youth

Predicted Youth intake

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Could be better for a GG. Three players who could make 1st 11. Disapointing no foriegn kids.

Can JAKUBIAK replace SARNOWSKi in the future? He seems to have more potential!.

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The other is a hard needed CB!. Its right now our worst part of the team. He needs to work on his heading! Not very high work rate so im unsure if he's going to make it.

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Alot of youngsters from Warszawa (7) this year. Nothing unusual.

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Job Offers

Job offer Ol. Lyon / AS Roma

Roma really wants me. Third job offer. Lyon with their first.

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22 minutes ago, Sn00gle said:

What I noticed its realy hard to get youth from affiliates in Poland it usually goes after 10 seasons od european games ... Compare o other countries.

2 years to go than :D

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2 hours ago, the_hdk said:

2 years to go than :D

In one FM I did test as I had 5 clubs and never get note on intake that there is any player from them. After some roles Ive got it but I think its less then 10%. In best role I've got 4 guys from Montenegro and one from Austria + random newgen. But to archive it you have to be on top 4 clubs from Poland + a lot of european reputation. I was 2 times on European League semis but never won Polish league at last got cup few times 🤣 Randomly from game you get one foreign player in 2-3 years.

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Ok, I have a fantastic HoYD in Declan Rice, but I'm still thinking about switching him out. I have two great options... Any thoughts?

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I would go for Steve Cook! Model Citizen, fantastic attributes, and I like his tactical style and preffered formation. But it's a close call with Lewis Thomas. If I was in your position, I would hire Cook :)

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39 minutes ago, XaW said:

I have two great options... Any thoughts?

depends on formations i guess? I use 433 predominantly so probably thomas. Lovely problem to have though, i haven't found any model citizen HoyD yet. Still stuck with my professional one from 20 seasons ago!

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So officially my 3rd wonderkid to come through the Siena academy has finally been confirmed. Given that my other two wonderkids have both found themselves at Real Madrid for a combined fee of £296M, he has some big boots to fill.

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1 hour ago, XaW said:

Ok, I have a fantastic HoYD in Declan Rice, but I'm still thinking about switching him out. I have two great options... Any thoughts?

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Thomas for me but only just over Cook

The motivating stat the decider for me

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1 hour ago, Winski said:

I would go for Steve Cook! Model Citizen, fantastic attributes, and I like his tactical style and preffered formation. But it's a close call with Lewis Thomas. If I was in your position, I would hire Cook :)

25 minutes ago, libbyshuss said:

depends on formations i guess? I use 433 predominantly so probably thomas. Lovely problem to have though, i haven't found any model citizen HoyD yet. Still stuck with my professional one from 20 seasons ago!

1 minute ago, Padders said:

Thomas for me but only just over Cook

The motivating stat the decider for me

Thanks for the input, lads. As much as I love a Model Citizen, a Perfectionist is not far off on my level of personalities. For context:

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Model Citizen:

Professionalism: 15-20
Determination: 14-20
Ambition: 12-20
Loyalty: 15-20
Sportsmanship: 15-20
Pressure: 14-20
Temperament: 15-20

Perfectionist:

Professionalism: 14-20
Determination: 14-20
Ambition: 14-20
Temperament: 1-9

So for the main things (Pro, Det, Amb), the Perfectionist is about equal to the Model Citizen.

I've leaned back and forth, but in the end, I think I will go for Cook. It's really close though!

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I've started to make a lot of money on young players, and not even keeping them for long. Like this kid:

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He came through in March, and I just sold him to Brentford for a nice sum. He is not a bad player, but not one I think would ever make it here (a bit basic! :D. If I hadn't the PL money, this would allow me to continue having a high youth cost for a while.

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18 minutes ago, XaW said:

I've started to make a lot of money on young players, and not even keeping them for long. Like this kid:

yeah, i've started the same. It's funny, cos they're players I'd have killed for in the first 4 or 5 seasons. 

Most of the time I send them out on loan first, get their valuation up a little!

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Season 3 - 2023-2024

Competitions
In the 2. Bundesliga table we finished in 13th which is pretty much the same as last season. No notable improvements there. In the DFB-Pokal we were knocked out in the third round by Bayern, but the money from that run helped a bit. No significant improvements in the competitions this season and we are turning into a boring mid-table club. It is indicative that I attracted an offer from Karlsruhe, so my profile in-game has not grow a lot really.

Players
Yet again not a lot of rotation in our squad, with the main players getting over 30+ games. Still only Toksoz managed to break in the team of the season (he was also our top goalscorer with 11), while Oguzhan Aydogan was again the main man in creating chances (10 assists). Dustin Zahnen remains player of the season for our fans for the second year in a row. 

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Facilities
The board refused to improve any of the youth or transfer facilities, so we are left with the same old. We only attracted around 35% of the stadium (average 10870 spectators) and therefore no signs of improvement there either. Instead the board decided we needed another affiliate club and developed a 45k partnership with Memmingen (which are a Regionalliga club). 

Finances
This is the healthiest our finances have been since the beginning. Of course, we are still losing money each month but that is easily compensated by the around 10M we get in prize money from our league positions. In also helps that our Annual Revenues were going up on all levels compared to last season. We were given a wage budget of around 6M and 2M for transfers next season, which is an improvement over last season, to bad I have nothing to spend them on.

Transfers
Of course no players in, but 3 players on Transfers out. Nothing I should cry about anyways, they were surplus to requirements. 

Youth
The Youth Intake Preview predicted another golden generation for our club, but in the end it was again reduced in numbers, as we only got 5 players. Starting to get a bit annoying that each season one of the top 3 prospects is a GK, is not like I can play with more than one or could retrain them into a striker. The top prospect this intake is Enes Ekinci (aka Ekinci 24a from now on) which looks pretty decent. Him and Rohr will get rotational chances in first team next season, while Fojcik, Cenic and Epstein will move straight into the Reserves (who are now finishing in mid-table mediocrity their Reserves League 2). Wonder what would it take to get 7-8 players in each intake so I can have a bit of variety and compensate the natural losses. 

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Season 6 (2025-26) Review

On the pitch

Starting 11:

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Domestic:  We managed to win the league despite a late drop in form that saw us lose our last three games of the season.  Quarter finalists of the cup but this remains a low priority.

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Cup

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Europe: Amazing season that saw us reach the group stage of the Europa League (Via the Champions League qualification round) and then saw us slip into the Conference League after failing to get out of our Europa League Group.  So, we played in all three competitions this season!

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Champions League Qualification

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Europa League

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Europa Conference League

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Off the pitch

Youth intake: Described by HoYD as a golden generation

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Players:

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Top players

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Top 2026 youth intake

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Sale: The board sold our top prospect to Inter Milan.  I protested but the offer was apparently too good to turn down.  I have managed to force thorugha few board requests with the money that sale brought in (and the European money).

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SUMMARY

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Around the world (UCL = PSG; Copa Lib. = Palmeiras; Balon d'Or = K Mbappe (4); World Cup = France(4))

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UEFA Champions League - nice to see Ajax, Rangers and Benfica make it to the first KO round.

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Copa Libertadores

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Balon d'Or

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FIFA World Cup 2026 (USA, Canada, Mexico) = France winners for the 3rd consecutive tournament!

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Vikeologist's 36th Folkestone Intake Report and 32nd Intake Review 

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There’s a few potentially good players here. None of my recent right backs have threatened my long time starter who’s 30 now, and my top prospect is too short for me to use him in the centre, so let’s see how he gets on.

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Darius Westwood 36a  - Not sure that his PPM of running down the left will be too helpful in a right back, and Light-Hearted personalities tell me nothing about their professionalism. Maybe when his det of 14 increases by one he’ll turn out to have good hidden attributes.

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Osei Naiwo 36b – Is fast and has high physical attributes for quite a few of the things important for a right winger. On the other hand, he’s tiny and stupid. The low determination is easily fixed, unless he's too stupid to realise what a fine is.

YP32 Review

This was my last intake before I gave up on the challenge for a while, and the 2 things were probably at least somewhat related.

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With yet another golden generation promised, and improved facilities, I dreamed that this would be the one that actually deliver a wonderkid, or maybe just someone good from the go.

Instead I got an absolute stinker. My worst ever? Well, some of the previous 31 weren’t great, and it will take a few years to be certain, but this looks like it’s certainly going to be down there.

 

 

Aidan Crossan 32a – He was a goalkeeper with low determination, and I couldn’t increase it through fines or mentoring. In the end I sold him this season for £500k plus lots of clauses. Hopefully will make some more money from him eventually.

David Bevan 32b – A short central defender. Has never played a first team game, and almost certainly never will. Reasonable potential. Hopefully someone will buy him as I will now try to flog him.

Leighton Llewellyn 32c – Sold for peanuts, and not even worth the peanuts.

Lloyd Wynne 32d – The only player from the entire intake to ever play in our first team, but currently out on loan, and I’m only going to keep him for his Resolute personality, probably as an U18 mentor.

There’s no point going on. There’s a couple of players who may find their level in a lower league, but basically, it’s at the very least my joint worst intake. Absolutely nobody of any use, other than Lloyd future mentor Wynne.

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6 minutes ago, vikeologist said:

The low determination is easily fixed, unless he's too stupid to realise what a fine is

lol, I've had a few like that. First U18 game, first fine and they throw their toys out the pram. One of them was so stupid he's been on loan for the past 6 seasons, i don't even want to see his face!

Valued at 12.5m now, might have to sell his idiot ass...

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1 hour ago, Sn00gle said:

@the_hdk you are playing on fan database as you are going with Polonia which is in 3 league lvl in Poland and there is no way to get it?

nope. play with original database. I just waited 2 seasons for them to promote. first save the first year and see they are promoted to II liga. Save...wait another seaosn...and get a bit lucky to see them promote again. took me only 5 re-runs

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Renegotiated the contract of Y. Toksoz 22c this summer, as he was the main threat upfront of us. However big I put the wage I couldn't not get rid of the Agent Minimum Release fee. A month later and clubs started throwing offers at us for him, until Freiburg matched the release fee, and off he goes. Looking back I think I was stupid not to negotiate better an offer - like I could have gotten maybe 1.5M and also get him to stay with us for another season. I won't make that mistake again, and when it will be obvious I cannot retain a player at the club I will negotiate the best offer and let him go - as much as it hurts me. Now we are left with a couple of poor options as CA upfront, but we will have to make do. Silver lining is that with 2M coming into the club the board has finally decided to accept an upgrade for the youth facilities. It is going to be a hard fought season. 

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2 hours ago, the_hdk said:

nope. play with original database. I just waited 2 seasons for them to promote. first save the first year and see they are promoted to II liga. Save...wait another seaosn...and get a bit lucky to see them promote again. took me only 5 re-runs

You are the the Boss here 😁

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ACN Siena 1904 - Season 24 - 2044/45 Youth Intake

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Alright, my youth intake has arrived and the promised three amazing midfielders have come to the club, which is nice. Just got to hope I can actually develop them.

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The midfielder who is expected to have the biggest potential is Luca Franzese, and he is the only midfielder that I can say that outright matches the positions that we currently play right now. He's got some room to grow, but hopefully his potential is not a glass ceiling that he will be stuck under.

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Walter Vannuncci is a midfielder who is also apparently a winger who likes to play on the left side of the pitch a lot. He's good to have since we are lacking in the left-footed central midfielders as of late.

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Just like Walter Vannucci, his first name is Walter and he can also play as a winger. Unlike Vannucci, Disegni likes to run through the centre of the pitch, which is good.

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Andreas Vesternbæk is a Danish centre-back who came to the club through our affiliation with Vejle BK, he's an exciting young talent and hopefully will be as good as Paulino currently is. It's a nice dream to have.

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1 hour ago, Muttley84 said:

However big I put the wage I couldn't not get rid of the Agent Minimum Release fee.

I lost a few players like that as well, it's really annoying. No matter what, the agent insisted on some crappy release fee and off they go, usually to rot in some teams reserves for years on end

drives me nuts!

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regarding this challange. In italy do you have to accept the lowest team in Seria C/C or can you take any newly promoted team from any of the 3 italian C leagues?

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6 hours ago, streety said:

regarding this challange. In italy do you have to accept the lowest team in Seria C/C or can you take any newly promoted team from any of the 3 italian C leagues?

any of the newly promoted teams into the lowest playable league

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6 hours ago, streety said:

regarding this challange. In italy do you have to accept the lowest team in Seria C/C or can you take any newly promoted team from any of the 3 italian C leagues?

Given that Serie C is the lowest playable league, after you simulate 1 year you can take any of the 9 clubs promoted from Serie D into Serie C. You can find them either in Italy > Season Overview or by going into each series Table > Season Preview and see who has a P next to them.

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22 hours ago, Winski said:

I would go for Steve Cook! Model Citizen, fantastic attributes, and I like his tactical style and preffered formation. But it's a close call with Lewis Thomas. If I was in your position, I would hire Cook :)

i agree with Winski @XaW Cook is the best (but his determination is lower as your current Model Cit. hoyd.

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Season #90 - 2111/12

Another midtable finish

Just can't get that consistency going. Highly frustrating.

New stadium opened

Not much else to report really. Intake average. 

Sean Carey is 29 yrs old now, so will start to decline very soon. Still another great season with 51 goals

 

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14 hours ago, libbyshuss said:

I lost a few players like that as well, it's really annoying. No matter what, the agent insisted on some crappy release fee and off they go, usually to rot in some teams reserves for years on end

drives me nuts!

Yep, same here.  My star player wants a new contract but every time I check the agent puts a non-negotiable buy out clause in there.  I've been trying to offer him a contract for about 12 months and his current deal runs out in 12 months... so time is quickly running out!

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If you let a player get near the end of his contract, you're handing all the power to the agent.

I guess contracts you can offer may differ by nation, but for instance with my unhappy wonderkid, Kargbo, in effect he still has 6 years left on his contract. When he came through I didn't stint on the money, but made sure he had an optional extension in there, and then have renegotiated every season. His minimum release clause did come down last time, it was in the 40 millions before, but if they're good, it's best to show them the money from the start for as long a contract as you can get.

Also best to keep on the good side of agents.

Anyway, Kargbo still won't sign a new contract, but the captain has talked him out of his immediate happiness, and maybe once we're in the Premier league officially he'll be a bit happier.

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2 minutes ago, vikeologist said:

When he came through I didn't stint on the money, but made sure he had an optional extension in there

Ditto. I do the same as much as possible.

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13 minutes ago, toshimitzou1 said:

Ditto. I do the same as much as possible.

Its annoying when only pretty good regens ask for lots of money. The 36b from my latest intake asked for an extortionate amount of money, and I haven't forgotten. If he wants us to pony up now, he better be a MF stallion the next time I notice him.

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1 minute ago, vikeologist said:

pretty good regens

Sometimes that can be a case of your coach reports not accurately assessing potential. I find if a regen asks for extortionate amounts then more often than not they have more potential than initially is shown by the coach reports. I wouldn't be surprised if he was indeed a, '

 

4 minutes ago, vikeologist said:

MF stallion

, next time his negotiations are up. I hope so anyway.

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