[Switzerland] (Official) League Specific Issues

[Dan Ormsby]

Please post any specific issues for Switzerland competitions here. This is for any issue which does not relate to data and is for areas such as:

- Competition Rules (Leagues and Cups)
- Disciplinary Rules
- Transfer Rules

We would request you all to adhere to the following three point plan when posting in here:

- State what you think is specifically wrong in your league.
- State how you think it should be working.
- State reasons/proof for your corrections/improvements.

Please note that specific data issues for Switzerland should be posted in the Database and Research Issues forum.

[Tsherrooum]

So when I sign a player or a staff member I get the option to send them on an Italian Course because apparently it's the most spoken language in Switzerland according to the game. That's completely wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Switzerland

So while Italian is one of four official languages in Switzerland, you can see here that in  2015 less than 10% of people in Switzerland speake talian and over 60% speak German.

[Dan Ormsby]

14 minutes ago, Tsherrooum said:

So when I sign a player or a staff member I get the option to send them on an Italian Course because apparently it's the most spoken language in Switzerland according to the game. That's completely wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Switzerland

So while Italian is one of four official languages in Switzerland, you can see here that in  2015 less than 10% of people in Switzerland speake talian and over 60% speak German.

Will be based on region the team is from.  If you think this is wrong for the particular team you are managing, this is an issue for the database & research team.

[Tsaca]

Hello,

There is an issue in Switzerland. In FM19 and FM20, this issue was already existing but only in 2nd division. Now it's extanded on first division too:

As you can see on the sceenshots, some teams didn't have registered as much players as they can until the deadline and now some players can't play anymore because they aren't registered (and even some titulars...).

There are some teams having only 13 players (+ U21 players) registered which skew the season results.

I hope you could find a solution. If it's not the case, maybe it will be good to cancel the deadline to register players because it's maybe more realistic that teams can use their whole squad that having the best players not registered...

 

Thanks in advance 

Have a nice day

[Stephen Glennon]

6 hours ago, Tsaca said:

Hello,

There is an issue in Switzerland. In FM19 and FM20, this issue was already existing but only in 2nd division. Now it's extanded on first division too:

As you can see on the sceenshots, some teams didn't have registered as much players as they can until the deadline and now some players can't play anymore because they aren't registered (and even some titulars...).

There are some teams having only 13 players (+ U21 players) registered which skew the season results.

I hope you could find a solution. If it's not the case, maybe it will be good to cancel the deadline to register players because it's maybe more realistic that teams can use their whole squad that having the best players not registered...

 

Thanks in advance 

Have a nice day

Thanks for reporting this, I've logged this as a bug now.

[45c0m]

Am 12.11.2020 um 15:38 schrieb Dan Ormsby:

Will be based on region the team is from.  If you think this is wrong for the particular team you are managing, this is an issue for the database & research team.

That's the issue, the regions don't seem to matter. Every newgen of every club in the country have French, Italian and German set as fluent regardless of the region they're in.

[Sebastian Szlenkier]

1 hour ago, 45c0m said:

That's the issue, the regions don't seem to matter. Every newgen of every club in the country have French, Italian and German set as fluent regardless of the region they're in.

This would in that case be something you should raise in the Switzerland data forum as this forum is only surrounding the league itself.

[brunotrink]

Swiss Cup First round, 0-0 in 90 minutes. On extra time, the opposition side could make the fourth sub but not mine.

Is this correct?

 

[Stephen Glennon]

15 hours ago, brunotrink said:

Swiss Cup First round, 0-0 in 90 minutes. On extra time, the opposition side could make the fourth sub but not mine.

Is this correct?

 

Certainly doesn't sound correct. Could you upload a save game just before this match so we can investigate? Thanks. Here's how to do it: 

 

[Tsaca]

Le 18/11/2020 à 08:13, Tsaca a dit :

Hello,

There is an issue in Switzerland. In FM19 and FM20, this issue was already existing but only in 2nd division. Now it's extanded on first division too:

As you can see on the sceenshots, some teams didn't have registered as much players as they can until the deadline and now some players can't play anymore because they aren't registered (and even some titulars...).

There are some teams having only 13 players (+ U21 players) registered which skew the season results.

I hope you could find a solution. If it's not the case, maybe it will be good to cancel the deadline to register players because it's maybe more realistic that teams can use their whole squad that having the best players not registered...

 

Thanks in advance 

Have a nice day

Hello,

For your information, it's still the case now that the whole game is enable.

Have a nice evening

[Sebastian Szlenkier]

Thanks, this is with our team and we're continuing to look into this.

[brunotrink]

4 horas atrás, Stephen Glennon disse:

Certainly doesn't sound correct. Could you upload a save game just before this match so we can investigate? Thanks. Here's how to do it: 

 

Sorry, I don't have a save game in that position. But it can be easily simulated because it was the first game on Swiss Cup. I'll try to do it again.

[NeutralNormie]

Hi,

I am in my second season in Switzerland and got the following item in my inbox during pre-season

When I checked the league profile page and the rules for the league it's all in accordance with 10 teams system and nothing has changed there. Additionally I did not find any supporting evidence that this was planned in real life.



Existing Rules:

Can you please provide me any reason behind the news item? Am I missing something here?

All the clubs have either Secure/Okay financial state only one has 'Insecure' (Lugano). Could it be a case of club folding/falling out of playable leagues? If so, why am I still seeing 10 teams in the Super league as well as the challenge league.

Edited November 30, 2020 by NeutralNormie

[Ruh Roh]

Was the Swiss registration issue fixed in the latest hotfix? It at least looks like a pretty generic setup to me so I'm not sure why the AI has so much trouble with it.

[Sebastian Szlenkier]

On 30/11/2020 at 04:32, NeutralNormie said:

Hi,

I am in my second season in Switzerland and got the following item in my inbox during pre-season

When I checked the league profile page and the rules for the league it's all in accordance with 10 teams system and nothing has changed there. Additionally I did not find any supporting evidence that this was planned in real life.



Existing Rules:

Can you please provide me any reason behind the news item? Am I missing something here?

All the clubs have either Secure/Okay financial state only one has 'Insecure' (Lugano). Could it be a case of club folding/falling out of playable leagues? If so, why am I still seeing 10 teams in the Super league as well as the challenge league.

Do you have a save file just before this news item appears? If so, could you please upload it to the SI Cloud server using the instructions in the link below? Thank you very much. 

 

 

On 02/12/2020 at 20:27, Ruh Roh said:

Was the Swiss registration issue fixed in the latest hotfix? It at least looks like a pretty generic setup to me so I'm not sure why the AI has so much trouble with it.

Thanks, we're still working on this.

[Outrospective]

Hi. The rule for Swiss top league says that the registered players can't be replaced after playing one game. Is it working as intended, that when you sell a player, you still not have a free place in the squad? I.e, you can theoretically sell all players after first couple of games and then will be forced to stick to youth players and EU U21s?

[aulit]

Am 16.12.2020 um 18:58 schrieb Outrospective:

Hi. The rule for Swiss top league says that the registered players can't be replaced after playing one game. Is it working as intended, that when you sell a player, you still not have a free place in the squad? I.e, you can theoretically sell all players after first couple of games and then will be forced to stick to youth players and EU U21s?

This is correct. Once a player has played in a game, he cannot be replaced on the registration list. Even if he is loaned out to a team in the same league or sold elsewhere.

[Bubba Chuck]

I'm managing Vaduz and I have an impossible club vision. 

Super League: qualify for the EURO Cup II.

Edited January 30 by Bubba Chuck

[aulit]

vor 21 Stunden schrieb Bubba Chuck:

I'm managing Vaduz and I have an impossible club vision. 

Super League: qualify for the EURO Cup II.

This seems like a bug, as Vaduz can't qualify for the EURO Cup II via the league. @Sebastian Szlenkier could you take a look at this. 

[Sebastian Szlenkier]

On 30/01/2021 at 22:07, Bubba Chuck said:

I'm managing Vaduz and I have an impossible club vision. 

Super League: qualify for the EURO Cup II.

As @aulit said, that should not be the case at all. Could you please provide a save file just before this objective generates? This would likely just before the previous end of season club objective meeting? This will allow us to look into this. Below are instructions on how you can provide save files to our SI Cloud Server.

 

 

[RealSmokePL]

I originally posted this in General but I think Liechtenstein still falls under Switzerland so here:

(Copied from my original thread)

 

'Why does Vaduz always start in 1st round even when Liechtenstein goes up the uefa rankings?'

 

'It's weird cause even if you get Liechtenstein up to 29th you'll start in 1st instead 2nd, 16nd or so should be 3rd qual round and 15th should be 3rd in Europa League 12th Play-off while 7th or so should be UEL Group stage

But no matter how high you get them you always start in 1st round and it shouldn't be like this!'

Also 55th team in the ranking gets only 1 team in Europa Conference League when it should be 2   

'51-55th have 3 teams .   1 UCL and 2 UECL'

[Dan Ormsby]

4 hours ago, RealSmokePL said:

I originally posted this in General but I think Liechtenstein still falls under Switzerland so here:

(Copied from my original thread)

 

'Why does Vaduz always start in 1st round even when Liechtenstein goes up the uefa rankings?'

 

'It's weird cause even if you get Liechtenstein up to 29th you'll start in 1st instead 2nd, 16nd or so should be 3rd qual round and 15th should be 3rd in Europa League 12th Play-off while 7th or so should be UEL Group stage

But no matter how high you get them you always start in 1st round and it shouldn't be like this!'

Also 55th team in the ranking gets only 1 team in Europa Conference League when it should be 2   

'51-55th have 3 teams .   1 UCL and 2 UECL'

This actually needs to go in the Europe thread I'm afraid

Third time lucky!

[Juxur]

Hi! 

Not sure if this is the right forum, if not please point me in the right direction.

I am looking to start a career with Grasshoppers. However the club vision is always preferring to hire and train Portuguese players for some reason. This probably should not be the case?

[Dan Ormsby]

On 19/04/2021 at 14:45, Juxur said:

Hi! 

Not sure if this is the right forum, if not please point me in the right direction.

I am looking to start a career with Grasshoppers. However the club vision is always preferring to hire and train Portuguese players for some reason. This probably should not be the case?

Probably want to be posting this in the Switzerland thread on the Database & Research forum to see if this is something the research team meant to set.  Thanks.

[GenericNam3]

Encountered a registration issue in the Swiss Challenge League. League rules require a max of 21 players (max of 10 non-EU players). However, when a player leaves on a loan a transfer, their registration spot is not cleared. I think the problem is related to another league rule that says plays cannot be unregistered if they played in at least one competitive match. I get that part, but it doesn't make sense that I can't register new players when others leave. My Press Officer is now telling me I have eight spots open (screenshot included), but the in/out dropdown for all players is inactive and the registration screen says I have 21 registered players (screenshot included)--I only have 13 registered.

 

 

[aulit]

@Sebastian Szlenkier this looks like a bug. He should be able to register the players, unless he's registered (and played) other players not on this list.

[Dan Ormsby]

On 06/08/2021 at 22:26, GenericNam3 said:

Encountered a registration issue in the Swiss Challenge League. League rules require a max of 21 players (max of 10 non-EU players). However, when a player leaves on a loan a transfer, their registration spot is not cleared. I think the problem is related to another league rule that says plays cannot be unregistered if they played in at least one competitive match. I get that part, but it doesn't make sense that I can't register new players when others leave. My Press Officer is now telling me I have eight spots open (screenshot included), but the in/out dropdown for all players is inactive and the registration screen says I have 21 registered players (screenshot included)--I only have 13 registered.

 

 

Hi there, I have been informed with certainty by a member of our Swiss research team that the rule whereby a player makes an appearance then leaves, either on loan or permanently but has previously been registered, they cannot be replaced.

So could I just ascertain whether you have 8 players that this applies to, if you say you should be able to register 21 but can only register 13?

The bug is you are being told an incorrect number of vacant spaces, which we have now logged to be corrected ahead of FM22.