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Florian Kastenmeier is still at 15k value despite being Fortuna Düsseldorf's first keeper IRL for a year now. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/florian-kastenmeier/profil/spieler/255294)

Frank Schaefer is listed as Coach despite being the HoYD together with Claus Reitmeier. In-game it would be a better fit if he had a scouting position rather then being listed as a coach. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/frank-schaefer/profil/trainer/5076)

Axel Bellinghausen is listed as Coach despite being an Assistant Manager (together with Thomas Kleine). (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/axel-bellinghausen/profil/trainer/64671)

Klaus Allofs is missing as Director of Sport. He was in the game last year and it's very important to add him as he is a vital part of Fortuna Düsseldorf now. He and Uwe Klein are sharing the position. An option would be to put him as chief-scout instead of Goran Vucic who is just a regular scout. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/klaus-allofs/profil/trainer/3143)

 

 

 

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FM21 Database Errors Borussia Dortmund - Staff

 

Reinhard Rauball is not the General Manager, he is the President. Hans-Joachim Watzke is the CEO / General Manager. Borussia Dortmund has no Managing Director. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/borussia-dortmund/mitarbeiter/verein/16

Manfred Stefes is the Assistant Coach, not Edin Terzic. E. Terzic is a coach. Stefes always sits next to Favre on the bench. Transfermarkt has both down as assistants, so in a perfect world BVB would be allowed to have 2 assistants. If not, it’s Stefes. See link above.

Sebastian Kehl is not a club director, he is the Technical Director. His official title is ‘Head of the Licensed Player Division’, which is a TD. https://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/Sebastian-Kehl-prematurely-extends-contract

Michael Zorc, as Director of Football, recently had his contract extended until 2022. https://onefootball.com/en/news/borussia-dortmund-extend-michael-zorcs-contract-by-one-year-30249696

Lars Ricken, as HoYD, recently had his contract extended to 2025. https://www.bvb.de/eng/News/Overview/Lars-Ricken-becomes-youth-performance-centre-director

Mike Tullberg is the Manager of Dortmund’s U-19s, not a coach of Borussia Dortmund II. https://bvbbuzz.com/2020/06/12/enrico-maassen-new-borussia-dortmund-u23-trainer/

 

An error sees scout Matthias Schwesig earning £18,250 per week. He also has no career history.

An error sees physio Thorben Voeste earning £18,250 per week. He also has no career history.

Physio Olaf Wehmer has no career history.

Fitness coach Mathias Kolodziej has no career history.

Performance Analyst Frank Rutemöller has no career history.

 

What I mean by no career history is that they don’t even have “Borussia Dortmund 2020 -“ in the ‘history’ section, so I assume this is a bug.

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1 minute ago, BanOly said:

After being told on this group that Edmond Tapsoba's #12 shirt would be fixed as an issue for FM21, I am fuming.

Yet another year that I can't even play as my favourite football club.

Is fixed already. I guess some things do not appear in the beta yet.

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1 minute ago, Reddiablo said:

Is fixed already. I guess some things do not appear in the beta yet.

Yeah, his shirt number is 17 in the Beta.

I know it's a small thing but this has been an issue for 11 months.

If it's in the full game, I won't play it.

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35 minutes ago, Brotdieb said:

Good evening guys,

short question is the ingame database final? I'm a big Bayern Munich fan and so i want to train them with the BETA but i'm shocked which player attributes Alphonso Davies ingame has :confused:davies.thumb.png.3e80a3960b77070f958377717ad8c29d.png

 

 

Why are you shocked? This is not helpful if you don't indicate any suggestions or proof. HOWEVER  - we have just recently changed him (improved!) - but has not made the beta yet.

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Just now, BanOly said:

Yeah, his shirt number is 17 in the Beta.

I know it's a small thing but this has been an issue for 11 months.

If it's in the full game, I won't play it.

Well you don't have to believe me.

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3 minutes ago, Im not Mozzer said:

I love this

I know I'm petty as hell I won't even deny it but it's something that should never even have happened. A new player signs and idk about the researcher but I'm checking to see if their shirt number is available or if it's not. 

Oh and also I have mad OCD for my favourite club and it stuck out like a sore thumb from Jan to July on my save so would rather not have to go through that again :D

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2 hours ago, redarmy22 said:

Thanks for the response about Moukoko exclusion. What is the cut off for age? I note that Dortmund have another player aged 15 included. So why cant Moukoko be included?

 

 

01/09/2004

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Fortuna Düsseldorf Staff: 

Fortuna has two head of youth Development, Claus Reitmaier and Frank Schaefer. Frank Schaefer is listed as an Coach. Claus Reitmaier is also the Goalkeeping Coach of Fortuna U19. (https://www.f95.de/nachwuchs/jugendteams/u19/team/1/) I think, it is better to list Frank Schaefer as head of youth development.

Vadim Barnics is Fitness Coach of Fortuna U19, not of the first team. (https://www.f95.de/nachwuchs/jugendteams/u19/team/1/)

Benjamin Fischer is perfomance analyst of Fortuna youth squad (https://www.transfermarkt.de/fortuna-dusseldorf-jugend/mitarbeiter/verein/11955)

Axel Zehle ist mentalcoach, Sascha Rösler team manager (https://www.f95.de/profis/team/trainer-stab/)

Carsten Fielder and Lucas Trittel are also Physio of the first team (https://www.f95.de/profis/team/medizinische-betreuung/)

U19 Squad Fortuna Düsseldorf: 

Jens Langeneke is head coach of Fortuna U17 (https://www.f95.de/nachwuchs/jugendteams/u17/team/)

 

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Football Manager Feedback Schalke 04

Can Bozdogon ->Wrong Contract length should be 2024  

https://schalke04.de/personal/can-bozdogan-vertrag-2024/

FC Schalke 04 -> Debt is to low 144 Mio à 205 Mio

https://www1.wdr.de/sport/fussball/erste-bundesliga/schalke-bilanz-halbjahr-100.html

Rainer Widmayer --> Is not an Assistant Manager from Schalke 04

Not on the official teampage https://schalke04.de/funktion/trainerteam/

Rene Eijkelkamp -> Is not an Assistant Manger from Schalke 04

Not on the official teampage https://schalke04.de/funktion/trainerteam/

Klaus Luisser -> Sacked from FC Schalke 04

https://www.sport1.de/fussball/bundesliga/2020/06/fc-schalke-trennt-sich-von-fitnesstrainern-schoos-und-luisser

Bob Schoss -> Sacked from FC Schalke 04

https://www.sport1.de/fussball/bundesliga/2020/06/fc-schalke-trennt-sich-von-fitnesstrainern-schoos-und-luisser

Sascha Lense -> Is not an Assistant Manger from Schalke 04 his role doesnt exist in FM (sports psychologist

https://schalke04.de/teams/profis/person/sascha-lense/

Quirin Löppert -> Fitness Coach from Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/teams/profis/person/quirin-loeppert/

Christoph Bühler -> Is not an Assistant Manager from Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/personal/fc-schalke-04-stellt-chef-trainer-david-wagner-frei/

Frank Fröhing -> Is not an Assistant Manager from Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/personal/fc-schalke-04-stellt-chef-trainer-david-wagner-frei/

Holger Remmers ->Is not a Physio from Schalke 04

https://www.transfermarkt.de/holger-remmers/profil/trainer/29281

Not on the teampage https://schalke04.de/funktion/funktionsteam/

Mirco Schüller -> Could be a Recruitment Analyst from Schalke 04

Videoanalyst: https://schalke04.de/teams/profis/person/mirco-schueller/

Marvin Begemann -> Could be a Recruitment Analyst Schalke 04

Dataanalyst: https://schalke04.de/teams/profis/person/marvin-begemann/

Christian Bucholz -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Christian Kösters -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Manfred Dubski -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Marc Gebler -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Ömer Yanik -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Uwe Handt ->Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Willi Schmalz -> Scout from Fc Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/scouting/

Christina Rühl-Hamers -> Is the Managing Director from Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/personal/christina-ruehl-hamers-vorstand-finanzen/

Tobias Rantzow -> Is not a Goalkeeping coach from Schalkes 04 U19

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/spezial-trainer/tobias-rantzow/

Christian Krabbe -> Is a Physio from U23 Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/physiotherapeuten/vasileios-vyntra/

Marc Magnier -> Is a Physio from U19 Schalke 04

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/personal/physiotherapeuten/marc-magnier/

 

 

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb redarmy22:

No Youssoufa Moukoko for Dortmund. He turns 16 before the full game is released. Will he be included in the full game?

No, he turns 16 on November 4th. 
Only players born before 01/09/2004 are allowed.

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vor 10 Minuten schrieb Walter Frosch:

James Lawrence (FC St. Pauli)

is out for 6-7months with a serious viral infection.

He had Corona before he switched teams but he has completely recovered, is training with the team and already featured last week as a sub.

When was the beginning of his injury ??
28th July until 11th August. 
So it is set correct in the game when the infection started

But, i will set his end date too

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vor 27 Minuten schrieb simon_lechner:

Jens Langeneke is head coach of Fortuna U17 (https://www.f95.de/nachwuchs/jugendteams/u17/team/)

 

vor 25 Minuten schrieb Super Saiyajin Karn3ol:

Tobias Rantzow -> Is not a Goalkeeping coach from Schalkes 04 U19

 

 

Both are on the coaching staff of the younger teams in their clubs.
These teams are not included in the FM and are therefore considered as "support" of the U19 staff.
So both are correctly set in database.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Mevin:

Florian Kastenmeier is still at 15k value despite being Fortuna Düsseldorf's first keeper IRL for a year now. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/florian-kastenmeier/profil/spieler/255294)

Frank Schaefer is listed as Coach despite being the HoYD together with Claus Reitmeier. In-game it would be a better fit if he had a scouting position rather then being listed as a coach. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/frank-schaefer/profil/trainer/5076)

Axel Bellinghausen is listed as Coach despite being an Assistant Manager (together with Thomas Kleine). (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/axel-bellinghausen/profil/trainer/64671)

Klaus Allofs is missing as Director of Sport. He was in the game last year and it's very important to add him as he is a vital part of Fortuna Düsseldorf now. He and Uwe Klein are sharing the position. An option would be to put him as chief-scout instead of Goran Vucic who is just a regular scout. (https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/klaus-allofs/profil/trainer/3143)

 

 

 

Kastenmeier is changed

Schäfer set as a Scout as mentioned
Ok, will change Allofs and Vucic

 

 

Strange - Bellinghausen is set as Assistant Manager.      
I will make further research, why he is a coach.

@Simon Tipple could you please check this for me

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1 minute ago, GameCrasher said:

 

 

Both are on the coaching staff of the younger teams in their clubs.
These teams are not included in the FM and are therefore considered as "support" of the U19 staff.
So both are correctly set in database.

Ok thats fine :)

 Daniel Rama is the u17 Goalkeeping Coach he should also be a "support" of the u19 staff

https://schalke04.de/knappenschmiede/daniel-rama/

 

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vor 2 Minuten schrieb Toppdas:

Eintracht Frankfurt

 

The Club don't pay 10 million , only 8 million per year for the stadium

For financial matters, I would need a source, please. Thx

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14 minutes ago, Fire_03 said:

Kastenmeier is changed

Schäfer set as a Scout as mentioned
Ok, will change Allofs and Vucic

 

 

Strange - Bellinghausen is set as Assistant Manager.      
I will make further research, why he is a coach.

@Simon Tipple could you please check this for me

It'll be due to Thomas Kleine also being set with the same job.

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1 hour ago, Wasma said:

shocking also check out joshua kimmich defense ratings 10 heading, 12 marking, 14 tackling, 12 positioning.  championship players have better stats than that and this guy is a champions league winner

This is all very subjective, but Kimmich will also be fixed for full release

We do certain tasks at certain times, and unfortunately eg. Bayern edits that we made last week did not make it into the current beta release. 

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vor einer Stunde schrieb BanOly:

After being told on this group that Edmond Tapsoba's #12 shirt would be fixed as an issue for FM21, I am fuming.

Yet another year that I can't even play as my favourite football club.

Hmmmmmmmmmm - you know the difference between Beta and Full release ???

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vor 33 Minuten schrieb Fire_03:

For financial matters, I would need a source, please. Thx

FAZ "Aufgrund der Auswirkungen der Corona-Pandemie verhandelten beide Parteien den gewerblichen Mietvertrag zur Nutzung des Stadions, das seit dem 1. Juli den Namen „Deutsche Bank Park“ trägt, und des dazugehörigen Areals hart nach. Ursprünglich wurde eine Jahresmiete von rund acht Millionen Euro festgelegt. Bereits Ende Oktober des vergangenen Jahres hatten die Stadt und der Klub in einer Absichtserklärung Einigkeit über die wesentlichen Vertragspunkte herbeigeführt."

hessischer Rundfunk 

frankfurt live

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8 minutes ago, tbm said:

Louis Jordan Beyer is still on loan at Hamburger SV despite leaving in July 2020 after a one year loan from Borussia Mönchengladbach.

Thanks, removed the loan (it was still set to 30/6/21)

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10 minutes ago, Toppdas said:

FAZ "Aufgrund der Auswirkungen der Corona-Pandemie verhandelten beide Parteien den gewerblichen Mietvertrag zur Nutzung des Stadions, das seit dem 1. Juli den Namen „Deutsche Bank Park“ trägt, und des dazugehörigen Areals hart nach. Ursprünglich wurde eine Jahresmiete von rund acht Millionen Euro festgelegt. Bereits Ende Oktober des vergangenen Jahres hatten die Stadt und der Klub in einer Absichtserklärung Einigkeit über die wesentlichen Vertragspunkte herbeigeführt."

hessischer Rundfunk 

frankfurt live

Korrigiert.  -- set to 8m.

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Hi,

Nuremberg's Fabian Nürnberger (Transfermarkt) is right-footed in the game, left-footed in real life and has wrong main positions.

Also, he's started 6 of our 7 games this season and was a regular starter in the 2nd half of last season, only missing 5 games, 3 due to injury, 1 suspension.

He should be rated higher in relation to the rest of the team.

Tim Handwerker (Transfermarkt), is mainly a left back, not a left midfielder - his defensive attribute values are a little too low in my opinion.

Thanks :)

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1. FC Kaiserslautern:
Lukas Spalvis is still injured IRL (Knee Cartilage injury in 2018) and there is no forecast for when he's able to return (So at the minimum he should be injured in-game until late season). [Ref1] [Ref2] (BTW, what's the cutoff date for injuries to be included in-game?)

Lukas Gottwalt should be injured in-game (ankle fracture) until the second-half of the season [Ref]

Philipp Hercher should have some proficiency at D(R) and M(R) as well to reflect his past (and current) playing positions, and AFAIK he is a right-footed player with a strong left foot (~18 for left foot) [Ref - see 19/20 and 18/19 seasons also].

Carlo Sickinger should also have Natural competency (18 or 19) as D(C) as that's where he's played ~half of his games since the 2018/19 season, and probably a CA upgrade to reflect his status as Regular Starter/Important player and the team's Captain (in-game his status is Fringe Player and I believe he hasn't had his attributes upgraded last FM). Can reduce competence at AM(C) as he doesn't play there. Initial opinions on his attributes:

Spoiler

First touch could improve by 1 or 2
Acceleration could improve by 1
Strength could improve by 1
Decisions could improve by 1

Some staff are also missing:

Niklas Martin is missing as first team Performance analyst [Ref]
Hans-Werner Möser is no longer employed with the club; Andreas Clauss should be II team Assistant Manager. Wenzel Böhm-Gräber is still missing as II team Fitness coach. [Ref]
Philipp Wollscheid is missing as U19 Assistant Manager [Ref]

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You're doing great!

Hallescher FC's Jonas Nietfeld is playing in Central Defensive Midfield and Central Midfield this season, although he used to be a Striker. Also you may want to consider changing his leadership and/or teamwork, as he is captain of the team since this season (although some would say he is not a very good captain. ;)).

Laurenz Dehl is mostly playing as Central Offensive Midfielder, although he sometimes acts as second Striker. 

Julian Guttau is playing on both offensive Winger positions (but more often on the left) as well as sometimes as Central Offensive Midfielder.

While all available positions for Toni Lindenhahn are correct, you could think about adding Central Defender, as he played that position for almost the whole season of 2018/2019 (together with Moritz Heyer and Niklas Landgraf in a back three which was one of the most successful defense lines of the season). ... If you decide to add that position, you may want to think about doing the same with Niklas Landgraf.

You could maybe also add Steffen Weiß, he is Head of Youth Development and one of the more known people around the club as he has a past as Coach for Hamburg.

Thank you. :)

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Hamburger SV

Merlin Polzin is an Assistant Manager alongside Hannes Drews, not a coach.

Horst Hrubesch is the Head of Youth Development, not a performance/recruitment analyst

Jonas Bolt is the Director of Football/Sport, not a director.

Louis Beyer is no longer on loan at the club from Gladbach. His loan ended last season.

 

Also could you look to add some more players to the under 19’s. Every year they are few and far between, yet the HSV youth set up are renowned for bringing through some excellent players over the years. More so than Dortmund or Bayern academy’s for example. Yet they both have so many more in their ranks.

Some of the most talented are as follows: 

Steven Mensah - GK (17)

Niklas Lund - CB (18)

Dennis Duah - CB (17)

Henry Koeberer - LB (17)

Felix Paschke - CDM (17)

Luka Bozickovic - CAM (17)

Arlind Rexhepi - LW (17)

Joe-Robert Sherbourne - CF (17) 

I’d greatly appreciate it if these could be added to the database.
 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

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