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12 minutes ago, gijsvanboven said:

ephram Lavia is transfer-free but plays at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/ephraim-lavia/profil/spieler/375394

Joas Simon Ndombasi does not play at lierse but at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/joas-simon-ndombasi/profil/spieler/364895

Amara Camara is transfer-free but plays beerschot under 21 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/amara-camara/profil/spieler/440940

Matondo manzambi is not in game but plays at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/matondo-manzambi/profil/spieler/654955

Gino van Camp does not play at tisselt but at beerschott under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/gino-van-camp/profil/spieler/668115

Please don't use transfermarkt for u21 and reserve players. They are not up to date. Gino Van Camp plays for Tisselt according to KBVB database

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Hi, little tipo but in the  loan contrat of Darly N'landu, Jean Onana and Saad Agouzoul from Lille OSC to Royal Excel Mouscron, the wage percentage is not set and is set as a loan wage of 100/week.

Just need to remove 100 from the wage column and put it in the wage percentage one.

Thank you.

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5 minutes ago, CWaka said:

Hi, little tipo but in the  loan contrat of Darly N'landu, Jean Onana and Saad Agouzoul from Lille OSC to Royal Excel Mouscron, the wage percentage is not set and is set as a loan wage of 100/week.

Just need to remove 100 from the wage column and put it in the wage percentage one.

Thank you.

That’ll be fixed

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Ability and potential of Michael Murillo (ID: 80028885) should be higher.

He's probably the best right wing-back in Belgium at the moment and has all the potential to make it in a bigger league.

 

Ability of Kemar Lawrence (ID: 81001828) should be higher.

His defending skills are too low.  He's got a 3 Star ability and potential at the moment.

He's better than his rival on the left wing-back Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351), which has 3.5 star ability and 4 star potential.

 

Transfer history of Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351) is wrong. It says € 3.5 million when it actually was only € 500.000.  (https://www.transfermarkt.com/bogdan-mykhaylichenko/profil/spieler/294730)

 

Missing Mario Stroeykens at Anderlecht. One of the bigger talents. (https://www.transfermarkt.com/mario-stroeykens/profil/spieler/588866)

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44 minutes ago, VanKers86 said:

Ability and potential of Michael Murillo (ID: 80028885) should be higher.

He's probably the best right wing-back in Belgium at the moment and has all the potential to make it in a bigger league.

 

Ability of Kemar Lawrence (ID: 81001828) should be higher.

His defending skills are too low.  He's got a 3 Star ability and potential at the moment.

He's better than his rival on the left wing-back Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351), which has 3.5 star ability and 4 star potential.

 

Transfer history of Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351) is wrong. It says € 3.5 million when it actually was only € 500.000.  (https://www.transfermarkt.com/bogdan-mykhaylichenko/profil/spieler/294730)

 

Missing Mario Stroeykens at Anderlecht. One of the bigger talents. (https://www.transfermarkt.com/mario-stroeykens/profil/spieler/588866)

Marco Stroeykens wasn’t 16 at the 1st of September, so not allowed in the game due to legal issues.

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46 minutes ago, VanKers86 said:

Ability and potential of Michael Murillo (ID: 80028885) should be higher.

He's probably the best right wing-back in Belgium at the moment and has all the potential to make it in a bigger league.

 

Ability of Kemar Lawrence (ID: 81001828) should be higher.

His defending skills are too low.  He's got a 3 Star ability and potential at the moment.

He's better than his rival on the left wing-back Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351), which has 3.5 star ability and 4 star potential.

 

Transfer history of Bogdan Mykhaylichenko (ID: 71080351) is wrong. It says € 3.5 million when it actually was only € 500.000.  (https://www.transfermarkt.com/bogdan-mykhaylichenko/profil/spieler/294730)

 

Missing Mario Stroeykens at Anderlecht. One of the bigger talents. (https://www.transfermarkt.com/mario-stroeykens/profil/spieler/588866)


Might be the age. Their stats are quite similar in the database, but it’s logical that a guy of 23 (Bogdan) has a higher potential than a guy of 28 (Lawrence).

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Although we don't know what season 2021-2022 will bring, I think the most realistic approach would be to have the team "Club Brugge NXT" cease to exist at the end of the 2020-21 season. Now they stay in the game but this way an extra team is given to "Club Brugge" for better youth development and an competitive advantage vs all other 1A clubs with no similar team. Also the "Pro League rules" stipulate that for 2021-2022 1B should consist out of 8 professional teams again (basically an extra promotion spot from 1e nationale to 1B). Also 1e nationale should be extended back to the normal 16 teams from 2021-22 season onwards. I made the same post on League Specific thread as this might be an issue tackling both Data & Leagues.

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2 hours ago, gijsvanboven said:

according to transfer markets Justin Vandermeulen has gone from dessel sport to lommel under 21. 
is this correct ? if so do you want to adjust this, he now still plays in the game at dessel sport

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/justin-vandermeulen/profil/spieler/561618

He’s at Lommel in the final database - that one has been spotted.

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9 hours ago, DJ Sir Matthew said:

 

Although we don't know what season 2021-2022 will bring, I think the most realistic approach would be to have the team "Club Brugge NXT" cease to exist at the end of the 2020-21 season. Now they stay in the game but this way an extra team is given to "Club Brugge" for better youth development and an competitive advantage vs all other 1A clubs with no similar team. Also the "Pro League rules" stipulate that for 2021-2022 1B should consist out of 8 professional teams again (basically an extra promotion spot from 1e nationale to 1B). Also 1e nationale should be extended back to the normal 16 teams from 2021-22 season onwards. I made the same post on League Specific thread as this might be an issue tackling both Data & Leagues.

It’s a difficult one for the coders. The 16 teams from 2021-22 should be definitely there.

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1 hour ago, BelgianResearch said:

It’s a difficult one for the coders. The 16 teams from 2021-22 should be definitely there.

Agree it is difficult. Tried it myself in fm20 and couldn't get it to work either. 

Holidayed to 2021/22 and only 15 teams in 1e amateur so might log that please. 

Keep UP the good work

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the name for Seraing shows Francs Borains in the roster of the competition, also when searching for a player

 

RSC Anderlecht :

Niels Mathieu is the new  Head Physical Therapist   modif staff

Luc Vanden Bossche is the new medic

Maarten Brecko is a new Physical Therapist.

Kris Vollon is doctor for the u21 staff  staff u21

Eliot tybebo is video analist u21 staff

olivier lavry is condition coach

pol walravens kine

Victor Swinnen moved to Anderlecht ganshoren data

Zacarias Antonio moverd to Cosenza transfermarket

Jonas de Roeck is T2, Nicolas Frutos T3

Tristan & Kjell Peersman father & son

 

varia

Romeo & Sven Vermant father & son
possible to re-activate Georges Grun?

Luc Nilis quit his job at Ankaragucu

Javier Sanchez video analist of Belgian u21 is missing

Stijn Campo & Yannick Euvrard of belgian nat team are not listed, performance analists

Kristof Sas is medic belgian nat team

 

faded out players/staff : please revive

Kris Van Crombrugge was faded out in the game. Is doctor at the Belgian national squad

Arne Beeuwsaert (id  18044015) is playing at Wielsbeke  wielsbeke

Rico Jordi  (18033089) is still playing at Diksmuide

Thor Laleman (18024965) is playing at Diksmuide

Gauthier Schelstraete 18089371 is playing at Oostkamp

Kurt Van de Paar (265) is coach at Averbode

 

 

player agents : most of them are in the game as scout

Daniel Van Buyten

Tom de Mul

Didier Frenay

Soren Lerby

Guy Vandersmissen

Nico Vaesen

Willy Vloet

Axel Lawaree

Tonci Martic

Dudu Dahan

Nenad Jestrovic

Patrick Van Diemen

Jcques Liechtenstein

Lars Knipping

Alain de Nil

Thorbjorn de Brul

Axel Vergeylen

Gunther Thiebaut

Oleg Iachthouck

 

 

 

 

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The derby of KV Kortrijk vs Zulte Waregem should be called the 'Vlasico' 

https://www.hln.be/kv-kortrijk/kv-kortrijk-met-de-sart-die-de-derby-nooit-verliest-ik-breng-blijkbaar-geluk~af847104/

https://www.focus-wtv.be/sport/de-vlasico-leeft-al-op-sociale-media

https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nieuws/2020-10-27/na-de-antwerpse-stadsderby-nu-de-vlasico-kortrijk-deelt-al-een-eerste-prikje-uit-aan-zulte-waregem

https://www.msn.com/nl-be/sport/voetbal/rood-voor-domp%C3%A9-en-vanderhaeghe-in-pittig-slot-van-vlasico-je-mag-niet-meer-reageren-en-zijn-toch-mannen-onder-elkaar/ar-BB1aE98B

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1B season ticket holders amount seems wrong for most teams, but I'm not too sure how this is modelled with Corona:

Union should have 1600 (currently 800), as this is their stadium capacity with Corona measures and only season ticket holder are allowed in: https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/division-1b/union-saint-gilloise/l-union-saint-gilloise-retrouvera-1600-supporters-face-a-seraing-5f580b6dd8ad586219051e06

 

Westerlo is currently 3500, but in reality it should be closer to Union's judging attendance averages: https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/bel-eerste-klasse-b-2019-2020-periode-1/1/ and https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/bel-eerste-klasse-b-2019-2020-periode-2/1/

 

Lommel SK is currently 3000, but their average attendance is somewhere around 2200 (see links above).

 

RFC Seraing has 1200 but their stadium has a 1200 capacity with Corona measures and their site says that tickets are available for both season ticket holders and non season ticket holders, so their season ticket holders amount should definitely be less than 1200. I also believe they had one of the emptiest stadiums in First Amateur division last year. (https://www.rfc-seraing.be/retour-du-public-au-pairay-informations-pratiques/)

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20 minutes ago, Spuddixx said:

1B season ticket holders amount seems wrong for most teams, but I'm not too sure how this is modelled with Corona:

Union should have 1600 (currently 800), as this is their stadium capacity with Corona measures and only season ticket holder are allowed in: https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/division-1b/union-saint-gilloise/l-union-saint-gilloise-retrouvera-1600-supporters-face-a-seraing-5f580b6dd8ad586219051e06

 

Westerlo is currently 3500, but in reality it should be closer to Union's judging attendance averages: https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/bel-eerste-klasse-b-2019-2020-periode-1/1/ and https://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/bel-eerste-klasse-b-2019-2020-periode-2/1/

 

Lommel SK is currently 3000, but their average attendance is somewhere around 2200 (see links above).

 

RFC Seraing has 1200 but their stadium has a 1200 capacity with Corona measures and their site says that tickets are available for both season ticket holders and non season ticket holders, so their season ticket holders amount should definitely be less than 1200. I also believe they had one of the emptiest stadiums in First Amateur division last year. (https://www.rfc-seraing.be/retour-du-public-au-pairay-informations-pratiques/)

I will have a look at those.

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1 hour ago, Moondog777 said:

the name for Seraing shows Francs Borains in the roster of the competition, also when searching for a player

 

RSC Anderlecht :

Niels Mathieu is the new  Head Physical Therapist   modif staff

Luc Vanden Bossche is the new medic

Maarten Brecko is a new Physical Therapist.

Kris Vollon is doctor for the u21 staff  staff u21

Eliot tybebo is video analist u21 staff

olivier lavry is condition coach

pol walravens kine

Victor Swinnen moved to Anderlecht ganshoren data

Zacarias Antonio moverd to Cosenza transfermarket

Jonas de Roeck is T2, Nicolas Frutos T3

Tristan & Kjell Peersman father & son

 

varia

Romeo & Sven Vermant father & son
possible to re-activate Georges Grun?

Luc Nilis quit his job at Ankaragucu

Javier Sanchez video analist of Belgian u21 is missing

Stijn Campo & Yannick Euvrard of belgian nat team are not listed, performance analists

Kristof Sas is medic belgian nat team

 

faded out players/staff : please revive

Kris Van Crombrugge was faded out in the game. Is doctor at the Belgian national squad

Arne Beeuwsaert (id  18044015) is playing at Wielsbeke  wielsbeke

Rico Jordi  (18033089) is still playing at Diksmuide

Thor Laleman (18024965) is playing at Diksmuide

Gauthier Schelstraete 18089371 is playing at Oostkamp

Kurt Van de Paar (265) is coach at Averbode

 

 

player agents : most of them are in the game as scout

Daniel Van Buyten

Tom de Mul

Didier Frenay

Soren Lerby

Guy Vandersmissen

Nico Vaesen

Willy Vloet

Axel Lawaree

Tonci Martic

Dudu Dahan

Nenad Jestrovic

Patrick Van Diemen

Jcques Liechtenstein

Lars Knipping

Alain de Nil

Thorbjorn de Brul

Axel Vergeylen

Gunther Thiebaut

Oleg Iachthouck

 

 

 

 

Seraing should be logged in translation menu. 

Anderlecht - most of the changes are from a few days ago, so they ll be in the final version.

There's no specific agent description in the database.

National team doctor Kris Van Crombrugge will retire.  The others are all in the database but not loaded in the game - those roles are not supported I guess. 

 

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@BelgianResearch:

 

A lot of transfers are not up to point.

I suggest you download the BBF-app (best of belgian football app).

There you can find every player with the team he is attached to.

I started the beta with KV Kortrijk, for example player like Balcaen is playing for Harelbeke now. You can go fairly quickly to most U21 and U19 players in the game and you will see loads of them are not correct.

A couple of them are here already on the forum. If you do not find the time, i could make a whole list of alle 1A players who need to be transferred correctly.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BelgianResearch said:

Seraing should be logged in translation menu. 

Anderlecht - most of the changes are from a few days ago, so they ll be in the final version.

There's no specific agent description in the database.

National team doctor Kris Van Crombrugge will retire.  The others are all in the database but not loaded in the game - those roles are not supported I guess. 

 

thanks!

will the others be added (Tybebo for instance)

and the faded out players?

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Hi,

 

Few things that should be changed i think:

Cercle Brugge:

- position of Johanna Omolo, now a natural defensive midfielder and right winger. Would be better as a natural defensive midfielder and trained as a central defender and right back.

- Anthony Musaba is right-footed.

 

R. Knokke FC:

- Amaury Verdruye has left the club to krc harelbeke, he is replaced by Nicolas Deman (own youth of knokke). https://www.transfermarkt.nl/nicholas-deman/profil/spieler/811539

- Sebastiaan De Wilde is not a left back, he is a central defender, who can play as a right back as well (his also right-footed and played the first games of the season as a right back). Probably a mistake that is made because he used to play as a left central defender as well.

- Aaron Vanfleteren has left the club. He is still injured (knee-injury) and has no club a the moment.

- Jarric Buysse is a left back and left-footed.

- Sven D'hoest could be rated higher, is still a great goalie (certainly technically). Maybe you could rate him higher but lower his natural fitness, his biggest problem is still his knee he injured years ago (can't handle a lot of trainings).

- Corentin Kocur is only French, he has no Belgian passport. (Transfermarkt is wrong in that one). Also he is not a left winger but a central midfielder or an attacking midfielder. In these roles he should be more of a playmaker.

- Maxim Vandewalle is injured until january (ligament-injury).

- Name of Vincent Van Honsebrouck should be Vincent Vanhonsebrouck: https://rkfc.be/clubinfo/bestuur/

- The club is founded in 1905

- They built a new stadium (on the same spot): Burgemeester Graaf Leopold Lippenspark (1500 seats and a total capacity of 3000.)

 

 

Patro eisden:

Signed three new players this week (probably after the beta deadline):

- Jordan Massengo 

- Alexandre Arenate

- Jordan Mustoe

- Rune Lenaerts is not a striker but an attacking midfielder

 

Beerschot:

- date of birth of Bart Plasschaert: 9-9-2000 should be 9-9-1990

 

Rupel Boom:

Zakaria El Ouahdi is missing, he is a talented striker who played quite impressive at the start of the season: https://www.transfermarkt.nl/zakaria-el-ouahdi/profil/spieler/820474

KVK Tienen:

- Lucas Damblon, Alexander Vos and Andries Claes are missing in the first team.

Mandel united:

Jason dumortier, Sam Vanhuyse, Henri Vanmarcke, Andreas Hemelare, Robbe Santens, Simon Taillieu, Louis Callens, Luca Babylon, Robbe Tant are missing in the first team. Because of this you have only a first team of 13 players.

Dessel Sport:

Stadium name: Armand Melis Stadium.

 

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Loic Lapoussin (player for Union Saint-Gilloise) plays for Madagascar internationally now, in game he is only French. (source:https://www.dhnet.be/sports/football/division-1b/union-saint-gilloise/loic-lapoussin-devenu-international-pour-madagascar-un-reve-d-enfant-de-jouer-pour-son-pays-5fac0f4f7b50a6525b29e358)

Maybe this has already been logged, but just wanted to mention this to be sure.

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2 hours ago, BenoitCocquijt said:

@BelgianResearch:

 

A lot of transfers are not up to point.

I suggest you download the BBF-app (best of belgian football app).

There you can find every player with the team he is attached to.

I started the beta with KV Kortrijk, for example player like Balcaen is playing for Harelbeke now. You can go fairly quickly to most U21 and U19 players in the game and you will see loads of them are not correct.

A couple of them are here already on the forum. If you do not find the time, i could make a whole list of alle 1A players who need to be transferred correctly.

 

 

I went through the app last week to check on some youngsters - those moves will be done for the final version.

the issue with BFF is that some players are still attached to old clubs too. It’s not perfect either.

You are free to make a list though. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Moondog777 said:

Players that we barely have details of are often not added. We have now 66 - 75 players per professional club. A few U21 or U18 players missing is not a disaster.

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1A - PART 1

AA Gent

Minor name changes

* René (Barbara) Vanden Borre

* Jossue (Kanga) Dolet

* Franck Idumbo Muzambo (no "-" in between)

* Ryan Itangishaka (Trey does not need to be added)

* Henry (Franck) Bahi (Not Franck Josiah Bahi)

 

RSC Andelrecht

Minor name changes

* Lucas (Frédéric) Stassin

* Timon (Maurice) Vanhoutte

* Naïm-Nhour Van Attenhoven (needs "-" in between)

* Alonzo Engwanda-Ongena

* Bram (Joris) Van Laere

* Rik (Robert) Vercauteren

 

Royal Antwerp FC

Minor name changes

* Dragan (David) Lausberg

* Laurit KraSniqi (not Laurit Kraniqi)

 

Beerschot VA

Minor name changes

* Joyce (Jaun-Guile) Tshitoku (not Jaun-Galle)

* David Mukuna Trouet (no "-" in between)

* Kéres Angelau Masangu

* Ayrton (Junior) Mboko-Sambeya (needs "-" in between)

 

Cercle Brugge

Minor name changes

* Artuur (Rik) Zutterman

* Lucca (Koen) Lucker

* Aldom (Jean) Duro

 

Charleroi

Transfers

* Gaultier Lambert -> plays at Aywaille FC

Minor name changes

* Boris (Dilane) Ngoua

* Ilias Moutha-Sebtaui (needs "-" in between)

 

Club Brugge

Minor name changes

* Maxim De Cuyper (NOT Maxime)

 

KAS Eupen

Birthday mistakes

* Isaac Nuhu = 1/9/2001 not 1/9/2002

 

Minor name changes

* Julian (Elias) Renner

 

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I've just played my first season with OH Leuven. Been having financial troubles the whole season. Should that really happen? They're owned by King Power and they've really been investing. Also their stadium name is now "King Power at Den Dreef"

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11 hours ago, Domienho said:

The bank balance is not the same as the budget - that’s more the cash flow.
 

They have an investment from the president added every year. 
 

Mind you: they have made a lot of signings / high wages which has an influence on those finances.

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20 minutes ago, DivineOne said:

I've just played my first season with OH Leuven. Been having financial troubles the whole season. Should that really happen? They're owned by King Power and they've really been investing. Also their stadium name is now "King Power at Den Dreef"

I will have a look into it. They have had a few years of €8m losses, but King Power should cover that.

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2 hours ago, DivineOne said:

I've just played my first season with OH Leuven. Been having financial troubles the whole season. Should that really happen? They're owned by King Power and they've really been investing. Also their stadium name is now "King Power at Den Dreef"

Are you playing in Dutch or English? Mind you: not all sponsor names are allowed as they are licenced. 

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16 hours ago, Moondog777 said:

Houssein Diallo plays for Olympic Charleroi, Martin Gillet for Meux, Maciej Niewadomski for Aalst, Remy Bastien for Meux, Lucas Queirriau is too young to be added (as only born in 2005). A few of the others have already been added. 

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Standard Liège

Merveille Bokadi is 24 years old and not 28 years old

François Fornieri are not the owner of Standard Liège : https://www.standard.be/fr/news/francois-fornieri-nentrera-pas-au-capital-du-standard-de-liege

 Joachim Carcela-Gonzalez deserves better potential ( he even played a match this week)

Jackson Muleka deserves better potential https://www.transfermarkt.fr/jackson-muleka/profil/spieler/549966

Benjamin NICAISE is Technical Director, in charge of recruitment and not sports director https://standard.be/fr/news/benjamin-nicaise

Michel Preud'homme is the sports director and vice president

 

 
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The composition of the "Division 2 ACFF" (18097863) on the current base is not good.

To add :

AFC Tubize (172)

To delete :

FC Tilleur (18075702) - They play in the III Provinciale B Liège

 

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1 minute ago, Gorando said:

the name for Seraing shows Francs Borains in the roster of the competition, also when searching for a player

I have raised this issue for years but it never gets fixed

 

Mention it as a translation issue - it's only an issue in Dutch. It's been logged several times already. 

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3 hours ago, BelgianResearch said:

Houssein Diallo plays for Olympic Charleroi, Martin Gillet for Meux, Maciej Niewadomski for Aalst, Remy Bastien for Meux, Lucas Queirriau is too young to be added (as only born in 2005). A few of the others have already been added. 

superb!

 

Will Tybebo also be added to the staff roster u21?

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24 minutes ago, TheShooter said:

When I replace Vincent Kompany as manager he is out of the game.

 

Also Peter Verbeke's negotiating skills are quite low, he has experience at 2 topclubs and has done numerous transfers at RSCA now.

Well, they are looking at the double roles. 

Peter Verbeke doesn’t do any negotiations, I think. At Gent that was Michel Louwagie, at Anderlecht that’s mostly done by the upper hierarchy. 

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