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The club background of OHL notes "Winners of Proximus League 2020". They didn't win it, Beerschot did, OHL had a promotion due enlarging the first division. Also the club doesn's exist since 1958. The fusion between three clubs in Leuven since the 1st of july 2002. 

Toon Raemaekers has a contract until 30/06/2022 not 2021.

 

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Hi ,
-François Fornieri are not the owner of Standard Liège , there are discussins but the deal isn't done  ( https://standard.be/fr/news/francois-fornieri-nentrera-pas-au-capital-du-standard-de-liege ) 

-Hugo Siquet deserves better potential , he shoot the corner and free kick with a-team , then i think he can be better than 8 in corner and 6 in free kick.

-Kostas Laifis score some long shoot goal but he has only 7 .

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Salut, 

Pour le club de l'Union Saint-Gilloise  : Abdelmounaim Boutuil est parti en prêt dans un club marocain (Chabab Mohammedia) 

https://www.transfermarkt.de/abdelmounaim-boutouil/profil/spieler/520438 

 

Et théoriquement, Adrien Saussez est toujours sous contrat avec ce club (indésirable, mais...) 

https://www.transfermarkt.fr/adrien-saussez/profil/spieler/124125

http://www.rusg.brussels/joueurs/5

 

Merci!

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Union Saint-Gilloise encore : les dirigeants sont faux!

> Président = Alex Muzio (Jurgen Baatzsch ne l'est plus depuis quelques temps)

http://www.rusg.brussels/article/communique-officiel-7

> Alex Hayes n'est pas le responsable de recrutement (il était directeur sportif avant O'Loughlin et a été viré il y a presque deux ans)

http://www.rusg.brussels/article/alex-hayes-fin-de-la-collaboration

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2 hours ago, Stijn De Vliegher said:

Royal Antwerp FC are the current holders of the Belgium Cup. They won the final against Club Brugge. 

 

Are you on a date before they actually won the final in real life?

For some competitions the winner will not show until you move past the date it was actually played on, for example the Belgian Cup final was played on 1st August 2020.

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Some initial things I noticed for Genk:

Luca Oyen:
He mentions in this interview that he was born in Nottingham, in game he is listed as being born in Genk.
https://www.krcgenk-jeugd.be/nl/news/detail/1716/een-leuke-babbel-met-youngster-luca-oyen

Daniel Munoz:
It's pretty early, but maybe he should have some ability to play CB and DM? He's been playing there in real life and it would maybe add some realism to AI squad selection.

Elias Sierra:
He's training with the first team irl, in game he's still in the u21s.

Sébastien Dewaest:
I'm assuming there is no way for you to set him as unhappy and listed by request? Just feels a bit wrong to still have him in my team...

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34 minutes ago, Nolopola said:

Some initial things I noticed for Genk:

Luca Oyen:
He mentions in this interview that he was born in Nottingham, in game he is listed as being born in Genk.
https://www.krcgenk-jeugd.be/nl/news/detail/1716/een-leuke-babbel-met-youngster-luca-oyen

Daniel Munoz:
It's pretty early, but maybe he should have some ability to play CB and DM? He's been playing there in real life and it would maybe add some realism to AI squad selection.

Elias Sierra:
He's training with the first team irl, in game he's still in the u21s.

Sébastien Dewaest:
I'm assuming there is no way for you to set him as unhappy and listed by request? Just feels a bit wrong to still have him in my team...

Dries Wouters:

He's been playing at DM more than CB for the past couple of seasons, he should be a natural DM, and maybe even only accomplished at CB.

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9 hours ago, Thomekgr said:

And the finance of Standard Liège are false. The club have some problems with money... 

What specifically looks wrong with the finances to you?

Also do you have any articles that detail the problems you believe they have?

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Royale Union Saint-Gilloise doesn't have 'R White Star AC Daring Molenbeek' listed as a local rival in Union's club info tab, but Union is listed on RWDM's club info.

It should also be mentioned as 'Zwanze Derby', or maybe a more general 'Brussels Derby', because currently it isn't showing up as either.

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7 minutes ago, Spuddixx said:

Royale Union Saint-Gilloise doesn't have 'R White Star AC Daring Molenbeek' listed as a local rival in Union's club info tab, but Union is listed on RWDM's club info.

It should also be mentioned as 'Zwanze Derby', or maybe a more general 'Brussels Derby', because currently it isn't showing up as either.

 

8 hours ago, jasondhooghe said:

daniel munoz of genk is a central defender/defensive midfielder not a right back 

Those will be all fixed. Munoz played as a right back in Colombia, though

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1 hour ago, Nolopola said:

Some initial things I noticed for Genk:

Luca Oyen:
He mentions in this interview that he was born in Nottingham, in game he is listed as being born in Genk.
https://www.krcgenk-jeugd.be/nl/news/detail/1716/een-leuke-babbel-met-youngster-luca-oyen

Daniel Munoz:
It's pretty early, but maybe he should have some ability to play CB and DM? He's been playing there in real life and it would maybe add some realism to AI squad selection.

Elias Sierra:
He's training with the first team irl, in game he's still in the u21s.

Sébastien Dewaest:
I'm assuming there is no way for you to set him as unhappy and listed by request? Just feels a bit wrong to still have him in my team...

All will be fixed - Dewaest has been dropped in the database to the B-squad ... Anyway waiting to see if it pops up in the game like that. 

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11 hours ago, Unionjoe said:

Union Saint-Gilloise encore : les dirigeants sont faux!

> Président = Alex Muzio (Jurgen Baatzsch ne l'est plus depuis quelques temps)

http://www.rusg.brussels/article/communique-officiel-7

> Alex Hayes n'est pas le responsable de recrutement (il était directeur sportif avant O'Loughlin et a été viré il y a presque deux ans)

http://www.rusg.brussels/article/alex-hayes-fin-de-la-collaboration

They were noticed after the BETA database deadline - should be fixed for the game. 

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10 hours ago, Thomekgr said:

Standard Liège Laifis is a DC and not a defensive midfielder. 

 

And the finance of Standard Liège are false. The club have some problems with money... 

Standard have the real financial figures of their books in the database. Those that are published on the National Balance Sheets. They should effectively have debts in the game and they will keep on losing money - unless they sell somebody. 

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the assistant coach of Anderlecht is not Nicolas Frutos bu it is Jonas De Roeck. Now Nicolas Frutos is preparator of Anderlecht and Jonas De Roeck is not preparator of Anderlecht but It is assistant coach of Vincent Kompany 

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1 hour ago, santy001 said:

What specifically looks wrong with the finances to you?

Also do you have any articles that detail the problems you believe they have?

This is the link to the article (sorry, it is in Dutch): 

https://sporza.be/nl/2020/11/10/zakenman-fornieri-investeert-niet-in-standard-opnieuw-financiele-zorgen~1604995351784/

It currently is big news in Belgium, as it states that Fornieri will not invest in the club, as the risk is too big. They currently have 51,7 million Euro's in depth

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33 minutes ago, gijsvanboven said:

Nabil Cherkaoui plays for Antwerp U21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/nabil-cherkaoui/profil/spieler/422823

 

 

Joel Nganga does not play at union u21 but at antwerp u21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/joel-nganga/profil/spieler/481635

Nganga has left Antwerp and is registered at Union according tot the KBVB  (transfermarkt not up to date) 

Nabil Cherkaoui isn't registered at Antwerp anymore (according to KBVB files) 

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Robbe Quirynen - Antwerp - loaned out to Mouscron with future fee (optional) : 1.5 milj : https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200819_96197616

Birger Verstraete - Antwerp - Loaned in from Köln with future fee after playing 10 games for +- 2 milj(transfermarkt) and https://www.hln.be/antwerp/birger-verstraete-over-zijn-opvallende-aankoopoptie-bij-antwerp-ik-moet-gewoon-tien-keer-op-het-veld-staan~a1639514/  . I see that he has a future transfer but that's not correct. and the fee certainly isn't right.

Nana Ampomah is loaned from Düsseldorf for 2 years with future fee : https://royalantwerpfc.be/nieuws/nana-ampomah-op-huurbasis-naar-the-great-old

 

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1 hour ago, OlivierL said:

Robbe Quirynen - Antwerp - loaned out to Mouscron with future fee (optional) : 1.5 milj : https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200819_96197616

Birger Verstraete - Antwerp - Loaned in from Köln with future fee after playing 10 games for +- 2 milj(transfermarkt) and https://www.hln.be/antwerp/birger-verstraete-over-zijn-opvallende-aankoopoptie-bij-antwerp-ik-moet-gewoon-tien-keer-op-het-veld-staan~a1639514/  . I see that he has a future transfer but that's not correct. and the fee certainly isn't right.

Nana Ampomah is loaned from Düsseldorf for 2 years with future fee : https://royalantwerpfc.be/nieuws/nana-ampomah-op-huurbasis-naar-the-great-old

 

The fees have been added - the  Birger Verstraete option is too complicated to be added to the game at this point. 

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13 minutes ago, BelgianResearch said:

The fees have been added - the  Birger Verstraete option is too complicated to be added to the game at this point. 

ok that's understandable.  did u extend the loan from  ampomah please ?

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Hello,

Values of different players in Belgium competition is totaly wrong.

Example Anderlecht:

Yari Verschaeren value FM 300K  - Transfermarkt 13.5 M

https://www.transfermarkt.com/schnellsuche/ergebnis/schnellsuche?query=verschaeren&x=0&y=0

Bogdan Mykhaylichenko vakue FM 18.75K........ just bought 3.5M transfermarkt sets him at 2.5M

Michel Vlap FM value 925k..........Transfermarkt 5.5M

I can give so much more examples but just check files.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/rsc-anderlecht/startseite/verein/58

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Just checked a lot of values are wrong in Belgium - THIS COMPETITION NEEDS A TOTAL RECHECK ON VALUES:

Club Brugge - Dennis Bonaventure - FM 925K -  Transfermarkt 16.5M

Charleroi - Marco Ilaimaharitra FM 625K - Transfermarkt 5M

KV Mechelen - Aster Vranckx  FM 575K - Transfermarkt 7.5M

Genk - Carlos Cuesta FM 200K -  Transfermarkt  3.8 M

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46 minutes ago, Salezke said:

Just checked a lot of values are wrong in Belgium - THIS COMPETITION NEEDS A TOTAL RECHECK ON VALUES:

Club Brugge - Dennis Bonaventure - FM 925K -  Transfermarkt 16.5M

Charleroi - Marco Ilaimaharitra FM 625K - Transfermarkt 5M

KV Mechelen - Aster Vranckx  FM 575K - Transfermarkt 7.5M

Genk - Carlos Cuesta FM 200K -  Transfermarkt  3.8 M

Please log value issues to the general issues. Values are not a database / research issue. So post them in the relevant topic.

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ephram Lavia is transfer-free but plays at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/ephraim-lavia/profil/spieler/375394

Joas Simon Ndombasi does not play at lierse but at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/joas-simon-ndombasi/profil/spieler/364895

Amara Camara is transfer-free but plays beerschot under 21 

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/amara-camara/profil/spieler/440940

Matondo manzambi is not in game but plays at beerschot under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/matondo-manzambi/profil/spieler/654955

Gino van Camp does not play at tisselt but at beerschott under 21

https://www.transfermarkt.nl/gino-van-camp/profil/spieler/668115

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