FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[FCUtdWill]

1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Still decent enough

Yeah, only problem is behind the screen has broken and doesn’t close properly, and have a few bits have fallen out, so if I can’t get it repaired I’ll have to get a new one. It still works fine though.

[kevhamster]

4 hours ago, TioPatinhax said:

as a complete newb regarding CPU´s, how does this one of the laptop im considering buying stack up against its competition? Bad, average, good?

Intel Core i7-1165G7 Tiger Lake (2.8 GHz, 4 cores, TDP 15W)

Without knowing exactly which competition you're referring to, I can't say.  But it's a good CPU.

[FCUtdWill]

13 hours ago, Smurf said:

Still decent enough

Would you say this laptop is good compared to my current one? https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html

[Smurf]

6 hours ago, FCUtdWill said:

Would you say this laptop is good compared to my current one? https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html

Hate to be a pain 

But would it be possible to put both links in the same post to compare?

I don't want to go back to the wrong link and compare the wrong thing.

Thanks

[FCUtdWill]

54 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Hate to be a pain 

But would it be possible to put both links in the same post to compare?

I don't want to go back to the wrong link and compare the wrong thing.

Thanks

No worries at all.

This is my current spec:

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-cx0018na

Intel Core i7-8750H Hexa-Core Processor | 15.6" Full HD IPS Anti-Glare Screen | Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit | 16GB DDR4 RAM | 128GB PCIe NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200RPM HDD | Dedicated Geforce GTX 1060 Graphics | USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth | B&O Play Speakers | Backlit Keyboard | 5WA67EA#ABU
 

This is what I’m thinking of (along with what you recommended me yesterday):

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec1002na

AMD Ryzen 5 4600H Hexa Core Processor | 15.6" Full HD IPS Screen | Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit | 8GB DDR4 RAM | 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650Ti 4GB Graphics | USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth | 39P48EA#ABU

[Smurf]

16 hours ago, FCUtdWill said:

No worries at all.

This is my current spec:

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-cx0018na

Intel Core i7-8750H Hexa-Core Processor | 15.6" Full HD IPS Anti-Glare Screen | Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit | 16GB DDR4 RAM | 128GB PCIe NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200RPM HDD | Dedicated Geforce GTX 1060 Graphics | USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth | B&O Play Speakers | Backlit Keyboard | 5WA67EA#ABU
 

This is what I’m thinking of (along with what you recommended me yesterday):

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec1002na

AMD Ryzen 5 4600H Hexa Core Processor | 15.6" Full HD IPS Screen | Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit | 8GB DDR4 RAM | 512GB M.2 NVMe SSD | Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650Ti 4GB Graphics | USB3 | HDMI | Bluetooth | 39P48EA#ABU

Roughly the same

[FCUtdWill]

49 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Roughly the same

Okay thank you, I’m wanting to run a lot of leagues for this year’s FM so want something that can handle them well. I’ll have a think about which to buy, thank you for your recommendations.

[Smurf]

33 minutes ago, FCUtdWill said:

Okay thank you, I’m wanting to run a lot of leagues for this year’s FM so want something that can handle them well. I’ll have a think about which to buy, thank you for your recommendations.

Well I picked out decent one for you earlier.

But if you wanted to wait and add more budget to your purchasing power then come back and let us know what the absolute budget is.

Thanks

[FCUtdWill]

1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Well I picked out decent one for you earlier.

But if you wanted to wait and add more budget to your purchasing power then come back and let us know what the absolute budget is.

Thanks

Yeah, I liked the look of the two you recommended. Do you know when the first one is going to be released? All I can see on the site is it’s coming soon.

I’m currently looking to see if I can get my current one fixed, if it’s not repairable I’ll certainly come back and let you know my absolute budget.

Thank you for all your help as always.

[steve_0121]

Hi. I have roughly £1100 to spend.

I am looking for a desktop mainly to play FM22 and onwards. I like to play commentary with 3d highlights. I also stream Netflix/Youtube/Spotify at the same time. I don't need a monitor, speakers, keyboard or mouse.

Thanks

[jtibbs20]

would this run fm 22 or bit overkill  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/configure-review/456/

 

 

thanks

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, jtibbs20 said:

would this run fm 22 or bit overkill  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/configure-review/456/

 

 

thanks

It'll run it very well. 

 

Overkill on the graphics card if purely for FM perhaps, but gives you plenty of leeway if you want to play other games. 

[jtibbs20]

would this run fm 22 or bit overkill  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/configure-review/456/

 

 

thanks

 

how many nations and leagues do you thick it could run to be playable and fast ?

i got xbox x only run's 5 nations and mid database

ps: i will try to play different games as well

[Ikol]

Hi  think you recommended this a while back HP Pavilion 15-ec 1002na AMD Ryzen 5 8gb ram 512gb SSD Ni

vidia GTX 1650Ti 15.6”   FM will be only game on it am I right in assuming it will handle general laptop stuff mainly some photo editing & storage  surfing & emails etc   No problem  box have it at £650  thanks in advance 

[kevhamster]

2 hours ago, jtibbs20 said:

would this run fm 22 or bit overkill  https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/configure-review/456/

 

 

thanks

 

how many nations and leagues do you thick it could run to be playable and fast ?

i got xbox x only run's 5 nations and mid database

ps: i will try to play different games as well

As per the original post, we can't fairly speculate on this as what's acceptable to me, may not be to you.

However, it is one of the strongest CPU's currently around so it'll likely run the game as well as anything currently available.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Ikol said:

Hi  think you recommended this a while back HP Pavilion 15-ec 1002na AMD Ryzen 5 8gb ram 512gb SSD Ni

vidia GTX 1650Ti 15.6”   FM will be only game on it am I right in assuming it will handle general laptop stuff mainly some photo editing & storage  surfing & emails etc   No problem  box have it at £650  thanks in advance 

https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html

If you mean this one, then yes it'll be absolutely fine for what you're wanting.

[kevhamster]

23 hours ago, steve_0121 said:

Hi. I have roughly £1100 to spend.

I am looking for a desktop mainly to play FM22 and onwards. I like to play commentary with 3d highlights. I also stream Netflix/Youtube/Spotify at the same time. I don't need a monitor, speakers, keyboard or mouse.

Thanks

https://www.box.co.uk/Cube-Narita-NRT_3066090.html?config=2335908,2391507,2472017,3570387,3857175

[jtibbs20]

thanks for your input

[padlee]

Hi guys what would be a sweet spot for an igpu to run fm at 5 stars rating?

 

thanks

Edited October 4, 2021 by padlee

[rellison93]

Hey! 

looking at getting a new laptop for the release of FM22. I’ve played the previous versions on my old MacBook Pro but at nearing 10 years old, it really wasn’t up to running FM21. 
 

i will only really use the laptop for fm as I have a work laptop for everything else and only ever play 1 or 2 leagues at a time. Sometimes three but very rarely.

I don’t really want to spend much more than about £500/£550 and I’ve found these three from Argos and Curry’s that seem to be fine but just wanted to double check. 

obviously the Argos one at 409 would be great but wanted to know how it would run! Failing that I like the look of the £549 HP. 
 

any advice/recommendations on the below? Or maybe you know of something better for the same kind of price? Thanks! 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7354072?clickSR=slp:term:laptop:1:91:1

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-black-10214380-pdt.html?gbraid=0AAAAAD7JKSJo-llQYycj80op3A-n9W8OC&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=imlmiawwt&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1011+(Shopping+Ads)+Laptops+-+Brand+Dell~1011+(PLA)+Windows+Laptops+And+Convertibles+ad+group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=m&ds_kids=92700062096845001&tgtid=1011+(Shopping+Ads)+Laptops+-+Brand+Dell&=--present--&gclid=CjwKCAjwzOqKBhAWEiwArQGwaIYymEOhQ0UXlNEwWePAdmmrtdSp_ev6k6fOBI0nL9O4Yi6WUqDqVhoCrvMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq2512na-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-silver-10222231-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=pxtitwttm&istBid=t&gbraid=0AAAAADANKJma6ha_v_JSGAsUEEgvjXXyk&awc=1599_1633368248_79bfab81cf609cf52c46ee86eb394846&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Genie+Shopping+CSS~Comparison+Engine~259955~Genie+Shopping

 

[kevhamster]

22 hours ago, padlee said:

Hi guys what would be a sweet spot for an igpu to run fm at 5 stars rating?

 

thanks

If you're referring to the graphics side of things, your best hope is with the igpu's on a Ryzen 5 or 7, or the Iris Lake igpu's on 11th gen i5 and i7 chips.  Not sure they'll come up as top ratings for graphics, but they're the best currently available as far as I know.

[kevhamster]

14 hours ago, rellison93 said:

Hey! 

looking at getting a new laptop for the release of FM22. I’ve played the previous versions on my old MacBook Pro but at nearing 10 years old, it really wasn’t up to running FM21. 
 

i will only really use the laptop for fm as I have a work laptop for everything else and only ever play 1 or 2 leagues at a time. Sometimes three but very rarely.

I don’t really want to spend much more than about £500/£550 and I’ve found these three from Argos and Curry’s that seem to be fine but just wanted to double check. 

obviously the Argos one at 409 would be great but wanted to know how it would run! Failing that I like the look of the £549 HP. 
 

any advice/recommendations on the below? Or maybe you know of something better for the same kind of price? Thanks! 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7354072?clickSR=slp:term:laptop:1:91:1

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-black-10214380-pdt.html?gbraid=0AAAAAD7JKSJo-llQYycj80op3A-n9W8OC&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=imlmiawwt&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1011+(Shopping+Ads)+Laptops+-+Brand+Dell~1011+(PLA)+Windows+Laptops+And+Convertibles+ad+group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=m&ds_kids=92700062096845001&tgtid=1011+(Shopping+Ads)+Laptops+-+Brand+Dell&=--present--&gclid=CjwKCAjwzOqKBhAWEiwArQGwaIYymEOhQ0UXlNEwWePAdmmrtdSp_ev6k6fOBI0nL9O4Yi6WUqDqVhoCrvMQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq2512na-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-silver-10222231-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=pxtitwttm&istBid=t&gbraid=0AAAAADANKJma6ha_v_JSGAsUEEgvjXXyk&awc=1599_1633368248_79bfab81cf609cf52c46ee86eb394846&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Genie+Shopping+CSS~Comparison+Engine~259955~Genie+Shopping

 

Out of those, this one by a mile: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq2512na-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-silver-10222231-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=pxtitwttm&istBid=t&gbraid=0AAAAADANKJma6ha_v_JSGAsUEEgvjXXyk&awc=1599_1633368248_79bfab81cf609cf52c46ee86eb394846&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Genie+Shopping+CSS~Comparison+Engine~259955~Genie+Shopping

The one from Argos has a weak CPU so I'd avoid it.

Edited October 5, 2021 by kevhamster

[rellison93]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Out of those, this one by a mile: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14s-dq2512na-14-laptop-intel-core-i5-256-gb-ssd-silver-10222231-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=pxtitwttm&istBid=t&gbraid=0AAAAADANKJma6ha_v_JSGAsUEEgvjXXyk&awc=1599_1633368248_79bfab81cf609cf52c46ee86eb394846&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Genie+Shopping+CSS~Comparison+Engine~259955~Genie+Shopping

The one from Argos has a weak CPU so I'd avoid it.

I thought there would be a catch with it being £140 cheaper! Thanks for your help  

[Ikol]

On 03/10/2021 at 18:21, kevhamster said:

https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html

If you mean this one, then yes it'll be absolutely fine for what you're wanting.

Hi again sorry to bother you I maybe able to get a substantial discount at

Apple do you know which Mac would be  suitable 

thanks

[jmeast]

Can someone please tell me if this laptop will run a lot of leagues and run fast/smoothly?? I have just recently pre-ordered it..

 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX506HM-HN014T-ASUS-TUF-GAMING-F15-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-R_3627481.html

 

[kevhamster]

5 hours ago, Ikol said:

Hi again sorry to bother you I maybe able to get a substantial discount at

Apple do you know which Mac would be  suitable 

thanks

If you're going for an Macbook, you'll want one of the newer M1 based models - the older Intel based models (if they're still available) are nowhere near as capable.

People have been saying the Macbook Air runs quite hot playing FM due to its fanless design, so you may want to look at the Macbook Pro.  That said, depending on how much the discount is you're still likely to get a better overall deal with a Windows based machine.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, jmeast said:

Can someone please tell me if this laptop will run a lot of leagues and run fast/smoothly?? I have just recently pre-ordered it..

 

https://www.box.co.uk/FX506HM-HN014T-ASUS-TUF-GAMING-F15-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-R_3627481.html

 

It's an excellent spec.  We can't comment on how many leagues it will run to your liking as everyone's expectations in terms of what is acceptable will be different.  But, it's got a nicely powered CPU which is at the higher end of what is currently available.

[jmonfu]

Hi guys

Im thinking of getting a new laptop too since the one I have is dying.

Can anyone tell me if this video card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB 90W can run the 3D graphics fine since I only use 3D.  Also I do some video editing on Filmora, is this graphics card good for that too?

Thank you!

[jmeast]

1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

It's an excellent spec.  We can't comment on how many leagues it will run to your liking as everyone's expectations in terms of what is acceptable will be different.  But, it's got a nicely powered CPU which is at the higher end of what is currently available.

Well that will do me, thank you for letting me know, Kev :-) 

[Boothy0910]

On 28/09/2021 at 22:01, kevhamster said:

There's no easy answer to the Intel/AMD, Radeon/Nvidia question as there are so many different options and all manufacturers have some strong and some weak options.

This is a good all-rounder in terms of value for money - excellent CPU, graphics card is plenty strong enough and 512GB storage. https://www.box.co.uk/82K200C2UK-Lenovo-ideaPad-Gaming-3-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3638079.html

Thanks for last weeks reply.

How does that compare with this one?

https://www.box.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-7-Intel-Core-i5-16GB-RAM-512_3557428.html

[kevhamster]

4 minutes ago, Boothy0910 said:

Thanks for last weeks reply.

How does that compare with this one?

https://www.box.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-7-Intel-Core-i5-16GB-RAM-512_3557428.html

The Lenovo has a CPU which is a fair bit stronger, but the Acer has the marginally better graphics card.

I'd still go with the Lenovo.

[larsson-is-god]

My 10 year old is beginning to take an interest in FM (and gaming in general) - I was wondering if this would be a good purchase for FM22 in particular?

 

Vibox I-24 Gaming PC - Monitor Bundle - Quad Core Ryzen Processor - Radeon Vega 8 Graphics - 16GB RAM - 240GB SSD - 1TB Hard Drive - Windows 10 - WiFi https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00XWZ0RAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1PQKJTGZNREE2N992EJV

[KentPaul94]

Afternoon gents,

Like everyone else, just looking for some guidance on a few laptops, primarily with FM in mind. Been trudging along with the same laptop for almost 8 years now so looking to upgrade. A few I’ve got in mind are below, all £700, 14” super sleek/light & ultra-portable, which is my priority. Graphics not really a concern, only play FM and even that on low settings.

Dell Inspiron - 14 1514, AMD Ryzen 7 5700u Octacore 1.8/4.3GHZ, 8gb RAM.

Acer Swift 3 - AMD Ryzen 7 4700u Octacore 2/4.1 GHZ, 8gb RAM

Acer Swift 3 – Intel i5-1135G7 Quadcore 2.4/4.2 GHZ , 8gb RAM

HP 14s – Intel i7-1165G7 Quadcore 2.8/4.7GHz, 8gb RAM

I presume all will run FM well, but just looking for your thoughts on the best bet. The Dell one is my most favoured as it stands, but open to thoughts.

Cheers all

Edited October 6, 2021 by KentPaul94

[kevhamster]

4 hours ago, larsson-is-god said:

My 10 year old is beginning to take an interest in FM (and gaming in general) - I was wondering if this would be a good purchase for FM22 in particular?

 

Vibox I-24 Gaming PC - Monitor Bundle - Quad Core Ryzen Processor - Radeon Vega 8 Graphics - 16GB RAM - 240GB SSD - 1TB Hard Drive - Windows 10 - WiFi https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00XWZ0RAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_1PQKJTGZNREE2N992EJV

It'll run FM reasonably well, may struggle with some other games due to not having a dedicated graphics card.

If you can afford a bit more, then https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-pcs/lenovo-ideacentre-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-super-512-gb-ssd-10225946-pdt.html is a good deal, although I do see the one at Amazon comes with all the peripherals like monitor etc, so that may make a difference.

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, KentPaul94 said:

Afternoon gents,

Like everyone else, just looking for some guidance on a few laptops, primarily with FM in mind. Been trudging along with the same laptop for almost 8 years now so looking to upgrade. A few I’ve got in mind are below, all £700, 14” super sleek/light & ultra-portable, which is my priority. Graphics not really a concern, only play FM and even that on low settings.

Dell Inspiron - 14 1514, AMD Ryzen 7 5700u Octacore 1.8/4.3GHZ, 8gb RAM.

Acer Swift 3 - AMD Ryzen 7 4700u Octacore 2/4.1 GHZ, 8gb RAM

Acer Swift 3 – Intel i5-1135G7 Quadcore 2.4/4.2 GHZ , 8gb RAM

HP 14s – Intel i7-1165G7 Quadcore 2.8/4.7GHz, 8gb RAM

I presume all will run FM well, but just looking for your thoughts on the best bet. The Dell one is my most favoured as it stands, but open to thoughts.

Cheers all

This is the one I'd chose: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-14-5415-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10230198-pdt.html

Quite a close call between that and the 4th link, but overall the CPU in that one seems to edge it.

[daveygravy84]

Hi, I have a hard laptop i7 3610qm 2.3ghz with 16gb ram, nvidia geforce gt 650m graphics card. Bought 8 years ago, I know it will run fm, but would like a newer model, as very slow to start up. Also game is a little slow and can't do 3d engine. Looking around 500 to a grand. 

[daveygravy84]

Just now, daveygravy84 said:

Hi, I have a hard laptop i7 3610qm 2.3ghz with 16gb ram, nvidia geforce gt 650m graphics card. Bought 8 years ago, I know it will run fm, but would like a newer model, as very slow to start up. Also game is a little slow and can't do 3d engine. Looking around 500 to a grand. 

Sorry was meant to be hp haha

[larsson-is-god]

8 hours ago, kevhamster said:

It'll run FM reasonably well, may struggle with some other games due to not having a dedicated graphics card.

If you can afford a bit more, then https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-pcs/lenovo-ideacentre-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-super-512-gb-ssd-10225946-pdt.html is a good deal, although I do see the one at Amazon comes with all the peripherals like monitor etc, so that may make a difference.

Instead of a pc set up been looking at laptops now and wondered about this one in terms of FM with large database? Thanks in advance

HUAWEI MateBook X Pro 2019 - 13.9 Inch Laptop with 3K FullView 10-point Touchscreen, Intel Core i7, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Windows 10 Home, Quad Dolby Atom Speakers, Space Grey https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083T4L8BS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_F1AJYMW4S5YWZHMRTK2A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

[kevhamster]

9 hours ago, larsson-is-god said:

Instead of a pc set up been looking at laptops now and wondered about this one in terms of FM with large database? Thanks in advance

HUAWEI MateBook X Pro 2019 - 13.9 Inch Laptop with 3K FullView 10-point Touchscreen, Intel Core i7, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Windows 10 Home, Quad Dolby Atom Speakers, Space Grey https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083T4L8BS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_F1AJYMW4S5YWZHMRTK2A?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

Not brilliant to be honest.  I mean, it's not terrible bur you can get far better for the money - unless of course you are specifically wanting the touchscreen and more compact design.

If those things aren't specifically important, then this is far better for slightly less money: https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-15-ec1002na-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-_3561212.html

[kevhamster]

11 hours ago, daveygravy84 said:

Hi, I have a hard laptop i7 3610qm 2.3ghz with 16gb ram, nvidia geforce gt 650m graphics card. Bought 8 years ago, I know it will run fm, but would like a newer model, as very slow to start up. Also game is a little slow and can't do 3d engine. Looking around 500 to a grand. 

There's a big difference between what's available at £500 and what's available at £1k.

So, I'd ask, what is the ideal budget you'd prefer to stick so and what would you be using the laptop for aside from FM?

[cervo06]

On 24/09/2021 at 12:06, kevhamster said:

Can you give some examples of stores you can order from within your country (you've not stated where you're based) - I can have a look and see what's on offer where you are.

Yeah, sorry, I kinda forgot about this.

I'm based in Slovakia, I'll be looking to order from either Laptops | Alzashop.com or Nay.sk - ee live by technology | Nay.sk 

Right now I have a "shortlist" of these laptops, but of course, if you would find something better in similar price range, I would definitely check it.

Lenovo Legion 5-15ACH6H - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com (only AMD Ryzen 5, I was looking for either Ryzen 7 or iCore 7, but I'm not sure how big of a difference does it make)

Acer Nitro 5 Obsidian, Black - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-dk1009nc (20C62EA) čierny herný notebook | Nay.sk

ASUS TUF Dash F15 FX516PM-HN023T sivý herný notebook | Nay.sk

I feel like the last one is the best out of these, but I'm not 100% sure.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, I'm also looking to play occasionally other games (mostly Apex) as well as maybe start streaming. In FM I like to run larger databases - right now on my older laptop I start my saves with around 70k players and the performance is 2 stars (but ofc goes down later, as there are more players).

Thanks

[Smurf]

1 hour ago, cervo06 said:

Yeah, sorry, I kinda forgot about this.

I'm based in Slovakia, I'll be looking to order from either Laptops | Alzashop.com or Nay.sk - ee live by technology | Nay.sk 

Right now I have a "shortlist" of these laptops, but of course, if you would find something better in similar price range, I would definitely check it.

Lenovo Legion 5-15ACH6H - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com (only AMD Ryzen 5, I was looking for either Ryzen 7 or iCore 7, but I'm not sure how big of a difference does it make)

Acer Nitro 5 Obsidian, Black - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com

HP Pavilion Gaming 15-dk1009nc (20C62EA) čierny herný notebook | Nay.sk

ASUS TUF Dash F15 FX516PM-HN023T sivý herný notebook | Nay.sk

I feel like the last one is the best out of these, but I'm not 100% sure.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, I'm also looking to play occasionally other games (mostly Apex) as well as maybe start streaming. In FM I like to run larger databases - right now on my older laptop I start my saves with around 70k players and the performance is 2 stars (but ofc goes down later, as there are more players).

Thanks

I'd go with the first one. 

Albeit very close. The last one has a TDP of 35 which is slightly lower than the first one.

TDP is the Thermal design and it means the lwer the number the more the processor can throttle when under pressure from large CPU loads.

And FM is very CPU intensive.

It's a close one in my book. But whatever you feel is ok for you.

1 hour ago, cervo06 said:

In FM I like to run larger databases - right now on my older laptop I start my saves with around 70k players and the performance is 2 stars (but ofc goes down later, as there are more players).

Who knows - the star rating has been flawed for a long time in the game. 

And I have no idea what your previous specs were.

It might be better, it might not, but probably will be a lot better.

 

 

[cervo06]

29 minutes ago, Smurf said:

And I have no idea what your previous specs were.

It might be better, it might not, but probably will be a lot better.

 

 

My previous specs were: INTEL Core i5 7300HQ, 8GB RAM DDR4, nVidia GeForce GTX 950M and it did not have SSD, so I feel that all of these should be significant upgrade.

[kevhamster]

2 hours ago, cervo06 said:

My previous specs were: INTEL Core i5 7300HQ, 8GB RAM DDR4, nVidia GeForce GTX 950M and it did not have SSD, so I feel that all of these should be significant upgrade.

You'd be correct in thinking that.

[KentPaul94]

On 06/10/2021 at 15:43, kevhamster said:

This is the one I'd chose: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-14-5415-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10230198-pdt.html

Quite a close call between that and the 4th link, but overall the CPU in that one seems to edge it.

Top man, cheers Kev!

Glad you've suggested that one, is my preferred option. Hope not too technical but any obvious reason why the CPU on the Dell edges it? Not the most clue'd up myself but if i was to guess i'd assume that despite it having a lower base and max clock speed, something about how the Ryzen processor actually works and utilises its speed leads to it being better?  Reason I ask is that I've also read that FM is pretty CPU intensive although normally only uses one core, so not necessarily taking full advantage of Ryzen 7 5700u's 8x cores

[Smurf]

1 hour ago, KentPaul94 said:

FM is pretty CPU intensive although normally only uses one core, so not necessarily taking full advantage of Ryzen 7 5700u's 8x cores

This is incorrect

Got an answer on this from Neil Brock

 

I spoke to someone and this is the jist of what he and I came to:

For how the game uses threads - it will create as many threads for playing matches and shortlisting as you have cores (including hyperthreads).

But the performance you see varies on the setup for example with matches - Quick Matches for instance (so for loaded but non-managed in leagues) it's are so fast anyway it gets to the point where it doesn't make that much more difference having more cores.

If you use detail level to set more stuff to full match you'll start seeing betters gains for more cores, but of course will still be slower than by just not having the league loaded, or having it at a low detail level.

Similar sort of thing with shortlisting the more / leagues players you have loaded the more benefits you can potentially see with more cores, however this is probably more than offset by the general slowdown from having more stuff loading as there's still a large portion of the game which is single threaded. 

In regards to best processors, as a general guide we tend to suggest using the following comparison site as a good gauge of the performance capabilities - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html 

Basic rule of thumb is the higher it is on the list, the better it is. You can edit it to show processors for desktops and also those that are considered 'archived' via the restriction options. 

Hope some of this is of use. 

 

 

 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, KentPaul94 said:

Top man, cheers Kev!

Glad you've suggested that one, is my preferred option. Hope not too technical but any obvious reason why the CPU on the Dell edges it? Not the most clue'd up myself but if i was to guess i'd assume that despite it having a lower base and max clock speed, something about how the Ryzen processor actually works and utilises its speed leads to it being better?  Reason I ask is that I've also read that FM is pretty CPU intensive although normally only uses one core, so not necessarily taking full advantage of Ryzen 7 5700u's 8x cores

To add to what @Smurf has said, the primary reason I plumped for the Ryzen was the fact is has double the cores and threads.  The i7 does seem to edge it in terms of performance per core, but given there's twice as many it should handle the more intense tasks a bit better than the i7 does.

Either way though, you'd be getting a laptop with a very capable processor and I wouldn't see either as a bad choice.

[KentPaul94]

2 hours ago, Smurf said:

This is incorrect

Got an answer on this from Neil Brock

 

I spoke to someone and this is the jist of what he and I came to:

For how the game uses threads - it will create as many threads for playing matches and shortlisting as you have cores (including hyperthreads).

But the performance you see varies on the setup for example with matches - Quick Matches for instance (so for loaded but non-managed in leagues) it's are so fast anyway it gets to the point where it doesn't make that much more difference having more cores.

If you use detail level to set more stuff to full match you'll start seeing betters gains for more cores, but of course will still be slower than by just not having the league loaded, or having it at a low detail level.

Similar sort of thing with shortlisting the more / leagues players you have loaded the more benefits you can potentially see with more cores, however this is probably more than offset by the general slowdown from having more stuff loading as there's still a large portion of the game which is single threaded. 

In regards to best processors, as a general guide we tend to suggest using the following comparison site as a good gauge of the performance capabilities - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html 

Basic rule of thumb is the higher it is on the list, the better it is. You can edit it to show processors for desktops and also those that are considered 'archived' via the restriction options. 

Hope some of this is of use. 

 

 

 

This is really helpful and good to know, thank you for sharing! 

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

To add to what @Smurf has said, the primary reason I plumped for the Ryzen was the fact is has double the cores and threads.  The i7 does seem to edge it in terms of performance per core, but given there's twice as many it should handle the more intense tasks a bit better than the i7 does.

Either way though, you'd be getting a laptop with a very capable processor and I wouldn't see either as a bad choice.

Brilliant, cheers again 

[Boothy0910]

On 05/10/2021 at 23:15, kevhamster said:

The Lenovo has a CPU which is a fair bit stronger, but the Acer has the marginally better graphics card.

I'd still go with the Lenovo.

Done! thanks for your assistance

[cervo06]

19 hours ago, Smurf said:

I'd go with the first one. 

Albeit very close. The last one has a TDP of 35 which is slightly lower than the first one.

TDP is the Thermal design and it means the lwer the number the more the processor can throttle when under pressure from large CPU loads.

And FM is very CPU intensive.

It's a close one in my book. But whatever you feel is ok for you.

Who knows - the star rating has been flawed for a long time in the game. 

And I have no idea what your previous specs were.

It might be better, it might not, but probably will be a lot better.

 

 

12 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

In regards to best processors, as a general guide we tend to suggest using the following comparison site as a good gauge of the performance capabilities - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html 

Basic rule of thumb is the higher it is on the list, the better it is. You can edit it to show processors for desktops and also those that are considered 'archived' via the restriction options. 

Hope some of this is of use. 

 

 

 

Hi, I also checked the list in the link above and I found this laptop - Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 15ACH6 Shadow Black - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com

It has AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, which is rated higher than all of the processors I mentioned above (I guess mostly because of 8 cores compared to 4/6) and still has GeForce 3060 6GB and 16GB RAM.

So compared to these two Lenovo Legion 5-15ACH6H - Gaming Laptop | Alzashop.com ASUS TUF Dash F15 FX516PM-HN023T sivý herný notebook | Nay.sk it should be slightly better, right?

Thanks