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1 hour ago, J17W said:

Hello, thanks for the response!

you said this has a better CPU, what do you mean by this? I thought the 11th gen i7 would be better, but I have almost no understanding of this! 
 

also when compared to this version I found: https://www.box.co.uk/NX.A1FEK.001-Acer-Aspire-5-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-RAM-512_3213605.html?wgu=13045_57622_16186127488551_3c14635359&wgexpiry=1626388748&utm_source=webgains_57622&utm_medium=webgains&utm_campaign=affiliate

 

the laptop you recommend has half the DDR4, half the memory, this has the 11th gen i7 so the CPUN comparison will be interesting to learn about, but has the graphics card as you said. What is the cost benefit I’m looking at here if I truly will never play anything but FM and FalloutNV? 
 

I really appreciate the help on this! 

FM is a processing game - it doesn't really rely heavily on graphics. 

Whereas other games are focussed on graphics and don't really need great processors. 

You basically picked the same processor again. 

Kev already gave you a recommendation and I've compared the two for you.

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You can make your own mind up - but you came here for Help and Kev gave it.

So you can go with your own or go with the help you asked for.

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43 minutes ago, Smurf said:

FM is a processing game - it doesn't really rely heavily on graphics. 

Whereas other games are focussed on graphics and don't really need great processors. 

You basically picked the same processor again. 

Kev already gave you a recommendation and I've compared the two for you.

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You can make your own mind up - but you came here for Help and Kev gave it.

So you can go with your own or go with the help you asked for.

Absolutely, sorry if I came across like I was disagreeing, it is purely ignorance! 
 

I appreciate the help :)

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Having read more, I was hoping for your input on the true value of the upgrades between these two laptops, especially in reference to FM now and in years to come.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/lenovo-legion-5p-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-2060-256-gb-ssd-10205989-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=ilaamrxim&istBid=t&awc=1599_1618657499_2361057891ede3635b11f4c63e811eca&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~pricerunner~Comparison+Engine~105835~pricerunner


https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/asus-tuf-dash-a15-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-3070-512-gb-ssd-10220361-pdt.html

 

The £850 version has the AMD 4800H, 8gb DDR4. RTX 2060 6gb, and 256gb SSD.
The £1,399 version has the AMD 5800H, 16gb DDR4, RTX 3070 8gb, and 512gb SSD.

Does this £550 display a value for money upgrade in terms of current performance, and futureproof me in terms of not needing an upgrade for longer/work for FM25?

If not, how much extra would you say this upgrade is worth, £350?

Again, thank you for the input, this has been a massive help already!

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10 hours ago, J17W said:

Hello, thanks for the response!

you said this has a better CPU, what do you mean by this? I thought the 11th gen i7 would be better, but I have almost no understanding of this! 
 

also when compared to this version I found: https://www.box.co.uk/NX.A1FEK.001-Acer-Aspire-5-Intel-Core-i7-16GB-RAM-512_3213605.html?wgu=13045_57622_16186127488551_3c14635359&wgexpiry=1626388748&utm_source=webgains_57622&utm_medium=webgains&utm_campaign=affiliate

 

the laptop you recommend has half the DDR4, half the memory, this has the 11th gen i7 so the CPUN comparison will be interesting to learn about, but has the graphics card as you said. What is the cost benefit I’m looking at here if I truly will never play anything but FM and FalloutNV? 
 

I really appreciate the help on this! 

I'm not knocking the 11th gen i7.... They are very good. In fact there's not a huge amount in it between that and the Ryzen 7 in the one I posted, but the Ryzen 7 still scores higher in the benchmark sites. Plus, with that you'd get the dedicated graphics card. 

The refurb model you linked does seem a good deal. It'd be fine for FM for sure and in theory should be fine for FNV as well but with how funny some games can be with integrated graphics, I can't give any guarantee in that regard. 

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3 hours ago, J17W said:

Having read more, I was hoping for your input on the true value of the upgrades between these two laptops, especially in reference to FM now and in years to come.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/lenovo-legion-5p-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-2060-256-gb-ssd-10205989-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2f489429-2329-4fcd-941a-a6a497a10e1d&istItemId=ilaamrxim&istBid=t&awc=1599_1618657499_2361057891ede3635b11f4c63e811eca&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~pricerunner~Comparison+Engine~105835~pricerunner


https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/asus-tuf-dash-a15-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-3070-512-gb-ssd-10220361-pdt.html

 

The £850 version has the AMD 4800H, 8gb DDR4. RTX 2060 6gb, and 256gb SSD.
The £1,399 version has the AMD 5800H, 16gb DDR4, RTX 3070 8gb, and 512gb SSD.

Does this £550 display a value for money upgrade in terms of current performance, and futureproof me in terms of not needing an upgrade for longer/work for FM25?

If not, how much extra would you say this upgrade is worth, £350?

Again, thank you for the input, this has been a massive help already!

We can't really comment on future iterations as there's no sure way of saying what SI will do with the game in the future.

But, if we base it on past record the game requirements change very little year on year and I couldn't in good good conscience call the extra £550 on the more expensive one money well spent if FM and Fallout New Vegas are the only games you play.  Yes, the CPU is a bit stronger but the majority of that extra cost is probably due to the graphics card upgrade and the one in the other model is more than enough. 

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1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

We can't really comment on future iterations as there's no sure way of saying what SI will do with the game in the future.

But, if we base it on past record the game requirements change very little year on year and I couldn't in good good conscience call the extra £550 on the more expensive one money well spent if FM and Fallout New Vegas are the only games you play.  Yes, the CPU is a bit stronger but the majority of that extra cost is probably due to the graphics card upgrade and the one in the other model is more than enough. 

I can't express enough how thankful I am for your help on this topic, for the first time in 6 years I feel comfortable buying a new laptop knowing what Im buying and the value I'm looking for. Really appreciate it, I'll give it a think and see if I can get the better version for closer to 1.2k or so on the off chance I decide to try more gaming in the coming years, but I am likely to buy the one you recommended for £850. (Ebay currently offers a 5% off that price when bought on Currys through ebay, so will get it for £808!).

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10 hours ago, J17W said:

I can't express enough how thankful I am for your help on this topic, for the first time in 6 years I feel comfortable buying a new laptop knowing what Im buying and the value I'm looking for. Really appreciate it, I'll give it a think and see if I can get the better version for closer to 1.2k or so on the off chance I decide to try more gaming in the coming years, but I am likely to buy the one you recommended for £850. (Ebay currently offers a 5% off that price when bought on Currys through ebay, so will get it for £808!).

For 1.2k

https://www.box.co.uk/NH.QBCEK.008-Acer-Nitro-5-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-1TB-SS_3557433.html

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10 hours ago, Smurf said:

Jesus that looks like a good machine to get. Appreciate the find!

I feel like that upgrade is worth the extra £350 so thank you for that, is there any concern to be had for it being a pre-order? In the sense that there have been no real reviews and hence no real idea of issues, or is this something I should be understanding there is a risk with every laptop purchase?

Update: Have bought your recommendation and absolutely can't wait! Greatly appreciated :)

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7 hours ago, J17W said:

Jesus that looks like a good machine to get. Appreciate the find!

I feel like that upgrade is worth the extra £350 so thank you for that, is there any concern to be had for it being a pre-order? In the sense that there have been no real reviews and hence no real idea of issues, or is this something I should be understanding there is a risk with every laptop purchase?

Also a (hopefully) final question! There is an identical laptop with the Ryzen 5 5800H for £200 less, I want to consider if that is worth the extra money, but am I right in thinking that is the part of the laptop that is relied on most for FM? Edit: Actually half SSD and RAM, so probably not worth the discount.

I'd say it's a budget gaming laptop- might be a plastic casing etc, but nothing to be worried about. 

It would runFM no problem - I'd probably get a laptop cooling pad for it.

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2 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I'd say it's a budget gaming laptop- might be a plastic casing etc, but nothing to be worried about. 

It would runFM no problem - I'd probably get a laptop cooling pad for it.

Funny timing, just updated to thank you for the find. I've pre-ordered the one you recommended and couldn't be happier! I'll look into a cooling pad too, really appreciate the help!!

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29 minutes ago, Black Africa said:

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/view/Atlas-Elite/

Would you think that 2000euro is to much to spend on gaming PC just for FM? Dont play other games (europa universalis series sometimes) with lack of time im looking for PC to proces game as quick as possible. Thank You... Never seen this thread before but seems to be good idea and helpfull too.;)

Swtich the RAM to the slower speed and 16gb RAM, and up the Graphics card to the 3060.

That will future proof it. And the RAM is the easiest and cheapest thing to upgrade anyway - so you can cut back on that and get a better graphics card. 

Is it too much? For some 600 is too much, some it's 1000 is too much, some it's 2000 is too much, for some 2,000 is not enough.

It's all relative to what you want to spend. 

 

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Not sure if this is the place to ask this but I have a question. 

I play FM21 on a laptop and I noticed something peculiar. I load up my save and after playing like 7-8 matches in a row, processing from day to day becomes slower until I either restart the game or load the save again. I want to know whether anyone here experiences what I said above.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention that I play on a Dell G5 intel core i7-8750h with an NVIDIA 1050Ti GPU.

Please I would be grateful if I can get any information on this.

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37 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Swtich the RAM to the slower speed and 16gb RAM, and up the Graphics card to the 3060.

That will future proof it. And the RAM is the easiest and cheapest thing to upgrade anyway - so you can cut back on that and get a better graphics card. 

Is it too much? For some 600 is too much, some it's 1000 is too much, some it's 2000 is too much, for some 2,000 is not enough.

It's all relative to what you want to spend. 

 

Thank You for answering, i could spend 2000 euro i suppouse but i wonder if very fast performance could be achieved without spending that much, all that new PC's looks very fancy...where would be best to buy PC in Your opinion?

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28 minutes ago, Black Africa said:

Thank You for answering, i could spend 2000 euro i suppouse but i wonder if very fast performance could be achieved without spending that much, all that new PC's looks very fancy...where would be best to buy PC in Your opinion?

Pc specialist would be best in my opinion. 

Try the AMD chips. The 5950x is slightly better than the Intel one. Seems to come in a bit cheaper.

16gb ram is loads. And you could stick with the 2060 but might end up being a bottleneck in the system.

This site https://pc-builds.com/calculator/ seems to be good.

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3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Pc specialist would be best in my opinion. 

Try the AMD chips. The 5950x is slightly better than the Intel one. Seems to come in a bit cheaper.

16gb ram is loads. And you could stick with the 2060 but might end up being a bottleneck in the system.

This site https://pc-builds.com/calculator/ seems to be good.

Thank You very much for Your help.

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Chaps, any thoughts on this, please? 

https://www.aldi.co.uk/medion-i5-8gb-1tb-ssd-desktop-pc/p/711234446655000

 

Features
  • Intel® Core™ i5-10400 Processor (2.9 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz Turbo, 12 MB Intel® Smart Cache, 6 Cores, 12 Threads)
  • Intel® UHD Graphics 630
  • 1TB PCIe SSD
  • 8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
  • Latest Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 Gigabit WLAN with integrated Bluetooth® 5.1 function
  • Network controller Gigabit LAN (10/100/1000 Mbit/s.)
  • 6-Channel High-Definition-Audio
  • Optical USB-Mouse and USB-Keyboard
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Free 30-day trial version of Microsoft 365
  • McAfee LiveSafe – free 30-days trial version
  • Front connections: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 1x Mic, 1x Headphones
  • Rear connections: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 2x USB 2.0, 1x LAN (RJ-45), 1x HDMI®, 1x Display Port, 1x Front Line Out, 1x Mic In/Centre/Subwoofer Line Out, 1x Line In/Rear Line Out

 

I was in the thread a couple of months ago but didn't get around to buying anything. I've bought a Medion desktop before and it was great, so that wouldn't be an issue for me. I've looked at recent links in this thread to the BOX site and they're throwing up errors now. 

Is this desktop any good? 

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2 hours ago, Mooski said:

Chaps, any thoughts on this, please? 

https://www.aldi.co.uk/medion-i5-8gb-1tb-ssd-desktop-pc/p/711234446655000

 

Features
  • Intel® Core™ i5-10400 Processor (2.9 GHz, up to 4.3 GHz Turbo, 12 MB Intel® Smart Cache, 6 Cores, 12 Threads)
  • Intel® UHD Graphics 630
  • 1TB PCIe SSD
  • 8GB DDR4-2666 RAM
  • Latest Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 Gigabit WLAN with integrated Bluetooth® 5.1 function
  • Network controller Gigabit LAN (10/100/1000 Mbit/s.)
  • 6-Channel High-Definition-Audio
  • Optical USB-Mouse and USB-Keyboard
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Free 30-day trial version of Microsoft 365
  • McAfee LiveSafe – free 30-days trial version
  • Front connections: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 1x Mic, 1x Headphones
  • Rear connections: 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1, 2x USB 2.0, 1x LAN (RJ-45), 1x HDMI®, 1x Display Port, 1x Front Line Out, 1x Mic In/Centre/Subwoofer Line Out, 1x Line In/Rear Line Out

 

I was in the thread a couple of months ago but didn't get around to buying anything. I've bought a Medion desktop before and it was great, so that wouldn't be an issue for me. I've looked at recent links in this thread to the BOX site and they're throwing up errors now. 

Is this desktop any good? 

CPU is good,

Integrated graphics are weak on this, so if you're wanting to play in 3D you'll likely need to turn the graphics settings down to the lower presets.

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1 minute ago, Mooski said:

Thanks @kevhamster, I'll keep looking.

What's your budget? And what else aside from FM will you use the PC for (and if you're thinking of other games, please specify some of the games you'll be playing as this will be a hugely decisive factor in what is suitable). 

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4 hours ago, Mooski said:

If you're not going to get a dedicated graphics card, I recommend going for one of the Ryzen APUs instead. CPU might be slightly weaker, but integrated graphics are way better than anything Intel has to offer. Probably a better package overall.

Could probably run FM on medium/high settings no problem.

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Looking for some monitor advice. I currently have an HP laptop for work and I have an Alienware laptop for gaming and FM. I am looking if I can to buy a monitor that I would use mostly for work but when I have the chance plug my Alienware into the monitor for the bigger screen. Budget is prob max £150-200. Could someone point me in the right direction please as I want to make sure I get one that’s of enough quality to handle the alienwares good graphics 

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Hi all

Looking to get a laptop. Budget is around £700, don’t mind from where. 
 

I don’t play in 3D, but do like to have large database and around 6 nations loaded. 
 

is that possible in this price range?

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13 hours ago, darren1589 said:

Looking for some monitor advice. I currently have an HP laptop for work and I have an Alienware laptop for gaming and FM. I am looking if I can to buy a monitor that I would use mostly for work but when I have the chance plug my Alienware into the monitor for the bigger screen. Budget is prob max £150-200. Could someone point me in the right direction please as I want to make sure I get one that’s of enough quality to handle the alienwares good graphics 

What sort of size monitor do you want and what resolution are you aiming for?

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11 hours ago, WiseRegista said:

Hi all

Looking to get a laptop. Budget is around £700, don’t mind from where. 
 

I don’t play in 3D, but do like to have large database and around 6 nations loaded. 
 

is that possible in this price range?

Yes, easily.  Assuming you're not looking at playing modern AAA games alongside FM, you won't need to go anywhere near the ceiling of your budget either.

https://www.box.co.uk/M413IA-EB574T-ASUS-VivoBook-14-AMD-Ryzen-7-8GB-RAM-512_2955298.html

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16 hours ago, kevhamster said:

What's your budget? And what else aside from FM will you use the PC for (and if you're thinking of other games, please specify some of the games you'll be playing as this will be a hugely decisive factor in what is suitable). 

Probably around 500 and I don't envisage playing much else. I might dabble in some CIV style games as friends want me to try them out, but certainly nothing racing or FPS related. I'll not be doing any fancy nonsense like video editing. 

I've seen that Box have some decently priced monitors for around 100 as well so I'm happy to go there for a new monitor. 

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11 minutes ago, Mooski said:

Probably around 500 and I don't envisage playing much else. I might dabble in some CIV style games as friends want me to try them out, but certainly nothing racing or FPS related. I'll not be doing any fancy nonsense like video editing. 

I've seen that Box have some decently priced monitors for around 100 as well so I'm happy to go there for a new monitor. 

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/jks!ECaN!B/

 

Edit: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/4A95vaex92/

(better with 2 sticks of RAM rather than one - thought I'd done that on the original configuration, but seemingly had not).

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42 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

What sort of size monitor do you want and what resolution are you aiming for?

I’d be looking for around 24/25 inch. As good a resolution as my budget allows I suppose. I have an Alienware laptop so a monitor that could hopefully deal with decent graphics 

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20 minutes ago, darren1589 said:

I’d be looking for around 24/25 inch. As good a resolution as my budget allows I suppose. I have an Alienware laptop so a monitor that could hopefully deal with decent graphics 

What spec is the laptop?

Obviously don't want to look at a 1440p monitor if the graphics card is better suited to 1080p.

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2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

What spec is the laptop?

Obviously don't want to look at a 1440p monitor if the graphics card is better suited to 1080p.

I know nothing about computers lol 

is it this ? 1920x1080 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX

 

would this one be ok ?  https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-24-gaming-monitor-s2421hgf/apd/210-awmg/monitors-monitor-accessories

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33 minutes ago, darren1589 said:

I know nothing about computers lol 

is it this ? 1920x1080 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX

That is part of the name of the graphics card - so it's going to be a 20 series at least if it's an RTX card.

Normally, I'd say look at a 1440p monitor at least for one of these, but there's nothing in the price range I can immediately see.

Something like this would be fine though, with a max 1080p resolution and 144Hz refresh rate: https://www.ebuyer.com/883252-lg-ultragear-24gl600f-24-full-hd-144hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-24gl600f

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3 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

That is part of the name of the graphics card - so it's going to be a 20 series at least if it's an RTX card.

Normally, I'd say look at a 1440p monitor at least for one of these, but there's nothing in the price range I can immediately see.

Something like this would be fine though, with a max 1080p resolution and 144Hz refresh rate: https://www.ebuyer.com/883252-lg-ultragear-24gl600f-24-full-hd-144hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-24gl600f

thanks for that mate, appreciate it. 

 

spoke with someone at dell yesterday and they recommended this one https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-24-gaming-monitor-s2421hgf/apd/210-awmg/monitors-monitor-accessories

 

is there much of a difference between that one and the one you recommended ? i just want to make sure that FM's graphics requirements will be ok with the monitor too 

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8 minutes ago, darren1589 said:

thanks for that mate, appreciate it. 

 

spoke with someone at dell yesterday and they recommended this one https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/dell-24-gaming-monitor-s2421hgf/apd/210-awmg/monitors-monitor-accessories

 

is there much of a difference between that one and the one you recommended ? i just want to make sure that FM's graphics requirements will be ok with the monitor too 

In terms of specs, not really.  They're virtually identical in that regard.

However the one from Dell seems to be more economic in terms of power consumption, so that may well be a consideration for you.

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1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

In terms of specs, not really.  They're virtually identical in that regard.

However the one from Dell seems to be more economic in terms of power consumption, so that may well be a consideration for you.

i see that none of those monitors have speakers, stupid question but what would i have to get to have sound come out of the monitor from the laptop ? could you point me in the direction of a decent one please ?

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1 hour ago, darren1589 said:

i see that none of those monitors have speakers, stupid question but what would i have to get to have sound come out of the monitor from the laptop ? could you point me in the direction of a decent one please ?

You're getting into the realms of where I'm unsure - the sound will likely still come out of the laptop speakers as far as I know.

Also, worth mentioning that the few monitors with speakers that I have direct experience with, the speakers have been utterly terrible and barely legible in terms of the sound in any case.

However, if you want some affordable speakers that are decent, I have these connected to my PC and they pack a surprising punch for the price paid for them: https://www.ebuyer.com/270669-logitech-z120-white-usb-powered-speakers-980-000513

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On 23/04/2021 at 16:02, kevhamster said:

You're getting into the realms of where I'm unsure - the sound will likely still come out of the laptop speakers as far as I know.

Also, worth mentioning that the few monitors with speakers that I have direct experience with, the speakers have been utterly terrible and barely legible in terms of the sound in any case.

However, if you want some affordable speakers that are decent, I have these connected to my PC and they pack a surprising punch for the price paid for them: https://www.ebuyer.com/270669-logitech-z120-white-usb-powered-speakers-980-000513

That’s great mate thank you ! So if I plug those speakers in it would still need to be done to the laptop yes ? Unless there is a speaker built 

 

 

so I got a monitor, didn’t pay great amounts for it so much not expecting wonders.

however, when I watch the match on 2d the flow of the game is great. But when I plug the laptop into the monitor it’s a little bit jumpy but not a lot. 
 

is there anything I can do to fix or stop this ? If so how do I go about it ? 

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17 hours ago, darren1589 said:

That’s great mate thank you ! So if I plug those speakers in it would still need to be done to the laptop yes ? Unless there is a speaker built 

 

 

so I got a monitor, didn’t pay great amounts for it so much not expecting wonders.

however, when I watch the match on 2d the flow of the game is great. But when I plug the laptop into the monitor it’s a little bit jumpy but not a lot. 
 

is there anything I can do to fix or stop this ? If so how do I go about it ? 

Did you update you graphics card? 

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Morning all.

First time posting  for over 10 years so be kind! Ha.

Looking to finally get a laptop of my own, works one doesn't cut it. Needs to be a laptop so i can take it to work and travels etc.

Budget is around £700 but can go a bit higher if needed. 

Gaming wise, mostly FM, maybe some other games from xbox games pass but nothing too demanding like Warzone etc 
Hopefully at that price it should be able to handle multiple tasks from spreadsheets to many chrome windows being open for work and zoom meetings as well while all this is open also. 

Had a look around but dont really understand the difference between gaming laptops and just normal laptops for specs, hoping i can get something 
that will last a good amount of time. 

https://ao.com/product/fx505dthn484t-asus-laptop-gold-77152-251.aspx

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.HZHEK.001-Acer-Aspire-5-Intel-Core-i7-8GB-RAM-512G_2943099.html

Was looking at these but im pretty sure a lot of people on here are a lot smarter than me when it comes to this stuff!

Thanks in advance to anyone that answers!

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10 minutes ago, Pauldebest said:

Morning all.

First time posting  for over 10 years so be kind! Ha.

Looking to finally get a laptop of my own, works one doesn't cut it. Needs to be a laptop so i can take it to work and travels etc.

Budget is around £700 but can go a bit higher if needed. 

Gaming wise, mostly FM, maybe some other games from xbox games pass but nothing too demanding like Warzone etc 
Hopefully at that price it should be able to handle multiple tasks from spreadsheets to many chrome windows being open for work and zoom meetings as well while all this is open also. 

Had a look around but dont really understand the difference between gaming laptops and just normal laptops for specs, hoping i can get something 
that will last a good amount of time. 

https://ao.com/product/fx505dthn484t-asus-laptop-gold-77152-251.aspx

https://www.box.co.uk/NX.HZHEK.001-Acer-Aspire-5-Intel-Core-i7-8GB-RAM-512G_2943099.html

Was looking at these but im pretty sure a lot of people on here are a lot smarter than me when it comes to this stuff!

Thanks in advance to anyone that answers!

At that price range, I'd go for this one, if you're happy with 256GB storage: https://www.box.co.uk/1D5F9EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-RAM-2_3554471.html

Or, if you want 512GB, this: https://www.box.co.uk/30029470-Medion-Erazer-E10-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-_3610883.html

The first one has the stronger CPU, but the second one is still very good and has a slightly stronger graphics card.

 

Or, for an extra £50 if you're happy to pay the extra, this one has both the stronger CPU and graphics card from the other 2, plus the 512GB storage: https://www.box.co.uk/39P48EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-RAM-5_3561212.html

 

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Hello again,

Unfortunately https://www.box.co.uk/NH.QBCEK.008-Acer-Nitro-5-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-1TB-SS_3557433.html has been cancelled due to them not knowing when it will be in stock in the UK, they told me this the day before delivery but it is what it is.

https://www.box.co.uk/NH.QBCEK.005-Acer-Nitro-5-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-RAM-512GB-S_3557432.html I was wondering if this is a reasonable sacrifice? £200 less for the Ryzen 5 instead of 7, then half the SSD and RAM, otherwise the same but in stock.

Or perhaps have you a link to another comparable laptop to the former that has these specs for around the £1.2k mark?

 

Appreciate the help!

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2 hours ago, J17W said:

Hello again,

Unfortunately https://www.box.co.uk/NH.QBCEK.008-Acer-Nitro-5-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-1TB-SS_3557433.html has been cancelled due to them not knowing when it will be in stock in the UK, they told me this the day before delivery but it is what it is.

https://www.box.co.uk/NH.QBCEK.005-Acer-Nitro-5-AMD-Ryzen-5-8GB-RAM-512GB-S_3557432.html I was wondering if this is a reasonable sacrifice? £200 less for the Ryzen 5 instead of 7, then half the SSD and RAM, otherwise the same but in stock.

Or perhaps have you a link to another comparable laptop to the former that has these specs for around the £1.2k mark?

 

Appreciate the help!

Not sure what the spec is on the cancelled one, as the page just brings up an error now.  But the other one is excellent.  I'm actually shocked it's under £1,000.

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21 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Not sure what the spec is on the cancelled one, as the page just brings up an error now.  But the other one is excellent.  I'm actually shocked it's under £1,000.

Well that's nice to hear! The previous spec difference was the Ryzen 7 5800H, 16GB DDR4, and 1TB SSD all for an insane £1,199. It was pre-order two weeks ago, and to be delivered tomorrow, but received an email today saying the stock that was due to land in the UK today has been delayed by Acer, and they cannot give an ETA for when stock is due to land with Box. As such they have cancelled and refunded all orders.

Given I will never be able to upgrade the processor, I am quite stuck between waiting for a week or a month to see if the original one is available for sale again, or buying this Ryzen 5 version and upgrading the ram with the ~£150 saving.

If you know anything of the difference between the 5 v 7 and whether it's negligible or noticeable, and if adding another stick of RAM is an easy process, I'd greatly appreciate it, especially as I've waited 2 weeks for this thing! 

Another option could be to go for this https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9188026?clickSR=slp:term:laptop:3:3:1 with a 10% discount I got from a family member. So it's wait for the original, buy the £1000 version, or get this Strix paying £200 for the Ryzen 7.

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2 hours ago, J17W said:

Well that's nice to hear! The previous spec difference was the Ryzen 7 5800H, 16GB DDR4, and 1TB SSD all for an insane £1,199. It was pre-order two weeks ago, and to be delivered tomorrow, but received an email today saying the stock that was due to land in the UK today has been delayed by Acer, and they cannot give an ETA for when stock is due to land with Box. As such they have cancelled and refunded all orders.

Given I will never be able to upgrade the processor, I am quite stuck between waiting for a week or a month to see if the original one is available for sale again, or buying this Ryzen 5 version and upgrading the ram with the ~£150 saving.

If you know anything of the difference between the 5 v 7 and whether it's negligible or noticeable, and if adding another stick of RAM is an easy process, I'd greatly appreciate it, especially as I've waited 2 weeks for this thing! 

Another option could be to go for this https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9188026?clickSR=slp:term:laptop:3:3:1 with a 10% discount I got from a family member. So it's wait for the original, buy the £1000 version, or get this Strix paying £200 for the Ryzen 7.

It's hard to say how noticable the difference would be between the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 - both are excellent CPUs, with the Ryzen 7 scoring that bit better on the benchmarking sites.

The one in Argos obviously does have the bonus of the 1TB storage and double the RAM, which does give you extra flexibility when it comes to playing modern AAA games - if you're happy to pay the extra then by all means go for it, as there are certainly plus sides to paying the extra.

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Hello

 

Need help would this laptop play FM21 in 3d graphic mode OK? This is all I would be using the laptop for. 

https://www.box.co.uk/82C7009DUK-Lenovo-V15-(NO-OS)_2994953.html

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46 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

The base clock speed is below the minimum specs suggested by SI.  It's not something I'd recommend.

So what do I need to be looking out for and any recommendation for £400.

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11 minutes ago, Dd2009 said:

So what do I need to be looking out for and any recommendation for £400.

This is the best I can find for the price as a brand new model: https://www.box.co.uk/M509DA-BQ912T-ASUS-AMD-Ryzen-3-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-15.6_3062613.html

Or this if you're happy with a refurb: https://www.laptopstation.co.uk/product/laptops/acer-a315-23/

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Hi, 

Looking for some advice.

I was gifted this laptop last year after mentioning I was in the market for a new laptop, was planning on doing research and buying my own one but my Mum surprised me with a new one for my birthday. 
 

Only really started using it recently for FM19 and to be honest it’s not great. I am in the year 2108, so 90 years into a save, but I’ve only ever had 4 countries loaded at any time and I don’t play every single match, mainly just the big ones. I’ve tried a “new” save with minimal leagues loaded and it’s not really any quicker. 

On my old laptop that was about 6 years old and on it’s last legs it would run FM quicker even with YouTube and other tabs open, whereas on this one I’ve mainly just been playing with FM and nothing else open.

Based on the specs should this laptop be doing better or do I just need to upgrade? 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, PaulHartman71 said:

Hi, 

Looking for some advice.

I was gifted this laptop last year after mentioning I was in the market for a new laptop, was planning on doing research and buying my own one but my Mum surprised me with a new one for my birthday. 
 

Only really started using it recently for FM19 and to be honest it’s not great. I am in the year 2108, so 90 years into a save, but I’ve only ever had 4 countries loaded at any time and I don’t play every single match, mainly just the big ones. I’ve tried a “new” save with minimal leagues loaded and it’s not really any quicker. 

On my old laptop that was about 6 years old and on it’s last legs it would run FM quicker even with YouTube and other tabs open, whereas on this one I’ve mainly just been playing with FM and nothing else open.

Based on the specs should this laptop be doing better or do I just need to upgrade? 
 

 

07550C9F-DC83-43F7-822F-9E6351CDC2AE.jpeg

The CPU does meet the minimum requirements for FM, but all the same is not particularly strong so in all honesty it's probably performing roughly as expected.

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