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6 minutes ago, TheBigPog said:

@kevhamster

It is a i5-7260U.

Seems to be more powerful, but notebookcheck shows it fluctuates a lot more than the i5-5257U. What do you reckon?

I'd still go for it.

There's not a massive gulf between them, but all of the benchmark sites I've visited score the i5-7260U higher.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7260U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-5257U/m269906vsm25441

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html?

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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-7260U+%40+2.20GHz&id=2993

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-5257U+%40+2.70GHz&id=2504

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4 minutes ago, ryan.wood22 said:

Yeah get discount 
 

How much of a discount? What's the budget - if I find something else better for cheaper and in your budget somewhere else?

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Hi guys,

Love all the advice you've given in the thread, I've read from about half way through hoping to see the latest desktops that would be recommended.

Basically I want a desktop, so I can force myself to sit at a desk rather than lounge on a sofa and knack my back, in my old age.  The budget in my head was £600, but I realise that I may be being a bit optimistic, as I'll need a new monitor too, so as long as I don't tell the missus, I have a little wiggle room.

I noticed this link you posted a few weeks ago, priced currently at 549: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-m01-f0027na-desktop-pc-amd-ryzen-5-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-black-10207972-pdt.html

Is this still a good recommendation?  I guess I'll be looking at about £150 for a decent sized budget monitor too, so as you can see, my budget is already blown.

For info, it's pretty much FM21, maybe Netflix, maybe trying some new games through Steam, Civ maybe etc, but certainly no FPSs, as I get motion sickness and can't play those sorts of games.

Thanks in advance, chaps, your work here is very much appreciated.

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17 hours ago, Mooski said:

Hi guys,

Love all the advice you've given in the thread, I've read from about half way through hoping to see the latest desktops that would be recommended.

Basically I want a desktop, so I can force myself to sit at a desk rather than lounge on a sofa and knack my back, in my old age.  The budget in my head was £600, but I realise that I may be being a bit optimistic, as I'll need a new monitor too, so as long as I don't tell the missus, I have a little wiggle room.

I noticed this link you posted a few weeks ago, priced currently at 549: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-m01-f0027na-desktop-pc-amd-ryzen-5-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-black-10207972-pdt.html

Is this still a good recommendation?  I guess I'll be looking at about £150 for a decent sized budget monitor too, so as you can see, my budget is already blown.

For info, it's pretty much FM21, maybe Netflix, maybe trying some new games through Steam, Civ maybe etc, but certainly no FPSs, as I get motion sickness and can't play those sorts of games.

Thanks in advance, chaps, your work here is very much appreciated.

This is still a solid budget option - it has a decent, albeit not outstanding CPU with strong integrated graphics capability.  Games such as FM and Civ, which are not demanding in terms of graphics, will be absolutely fine.

Other modern AAA games may well require you to upgrade to a dedicated graphics card though, although I have seen these chips can run a number of modern titles with the graphics settings turned down.

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Can someone advise me if this PC will handle FM21 Touch and play the game somewhat smootly? I dont mind turning down the in-game settings to low and will only have 4-5 leagues loaded, and playing only in the 2D game engine aswell. 

https://www.elkjop.no/product/data/barbar-pc/windows-barbar-pc/198004/lenovo-ideapad-3i-81wd00q3mx-14-barbar-pc-platinagra 

Cheers!

 

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Unfortunately neither of the mini pcs turned out to be worthwhile.

Upon further research of the NUC a common complaint was durability- many people seemed to have it die within three years according to a poll and I see many other people have that problem. 

So I went with Beelink, it was very good performance wise and it ran FM relatively well in comparison to my laptop but there was a slight problem. The fan was incredibly noisy even when it was just word or chrome. It made my seven year old Xbox seem as quiet as a mouse, and as someone hearing impaired I could barely hear anything else when I tried to watch anything. It would give me such a headache long term and it can’t be any good in terms durability that the fan is already like that brand new. I will be returning it tomorrow. What a shame. 

I thought I’d go for a desktop pc, it’s not ideal for space but I’d rather if I was going to spend a lot of money have that issue than a fan tediously generating a load of noise. Are there any pcs just as good for the same or preferably lower price? I can jump to 400 but this will mainly be for fm and uni work, hence I don’t want to buy an expensive, absolute powerhouse of a computer. 

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How do you think this will FM21:

 

https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=1L6F7EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

 

I want to be able to run it at a fairly decent speed, 8-10 leagues ideally. My current laptop doesn't like FM21, it takes a while processing between screens and there's lag whenever you move between screens and what not. It also sends my laptop fans into overdrive.

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Hi. Appreciate any help/advice you can offer me as my computer knowledge is not very good. Once i spent a lot of money on a laptop that was worse than my previous one, hence i wanted some advice. 

My current laptop is this which is giving up the ghost HP 15-da0000na https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KFML9YJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a budget of approx £6-700 and am looking to replace it with an improved version (Paid £550 for that over two years ago, if i could find something a little better for the same price that would be ideal. 

Generally i use the laptop for FM, maybe a bit of civ and watching movies. A minimum of a 15" screen is required for me. As well as running FM in 3D

I have found these three so far, would you be able to confirm that they are better than my current laptop for running FM 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Laptop-15-ec1007na/dp/B08WLVP2YB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming+laptop+15-ec1007na&qid=1613657897&s=computers&sr=1-3

https://ao.com/product/81lk01pruk-lenovo-ideapad-l34015irh-laptop-black-81658-251.aspx

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-A515-55-15-6-Laptop/dp/B08FXNW1PP/ref=sr_1_16?crid=32RVJSXNLB5JO&dchild=1&keywords=gaming%2Blaptop%2B15.6%2Binch&qid=1613658330&refinements=p_36%3A-70000&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sprefix=gaming%2Blaptop%2B15.6%2Ccomputers%2C156&sr=1-16&th=1

 

 

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer, I really appreciate it

 

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1 hour ago, jim owen said:

Hi. Appreciate any help/advice you can offer me as my computer knowledge is not very good. Once i spent a lot of money on a laptop that was worse than my previous one, hence i wanted some advice. 

My current laptop is this which is giving up the ghost HP 15-da0000na https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KFML9YJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have a budget of approx £6-700 and am looking to replace it with an improved version (Paid £550 for that over two years ago, if i could find something a little better for the same price that would be ideal. 

Generally i use the laptop for FM, maybe a bit of civ and watching movies. A minimum of a 15" screen is required for me. As well as running FM in 3D

I have found these three so far, would you be able to confirm that they are better than my current laptop for running FM 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Laptop-15-ec1007na/dp/B08WLVP2YB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming+laptop+15-ec1007na&qid=1613657897&s=computers&sr=1-3

https://ao.com/product/81lk01pruk-lenovo-ideapad-l34015irh-laptop-black-81658-251.aspx

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-A515-55-15-6-Laptop/dp/B08FXNW1PP/ref=sr_1_16?crid=32RVJSXNLB5JO&dchild=1&keywords=gaming%2Blaptop%2B15.6%2Binch&qid=1613658330&refinements=p_36%3A-70000&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sprefix=gaming%2Blaptop%2B15.6%2Ccomputers%2C156&sr=1-16&th=1

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer, I really appreciate it

 

Out of those in your list

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Laptop-15-ec1007na/dp/B08WLVP2YB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming+laptop+15-ec1007na&qid=1613657897&s=computers&sr=1-3

 

Here's how they currently rank in processor (most important for FM):

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You can see the Ryzen 5 4600H is miles ahead - in it's base clock speed (3000) - and also in cores/threads (6/12)

 

That's the one I'd go for.

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4 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Out of those in your list

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Laptop-15-ec1007na/dp/B08WLVP2YB/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=hp+pavilion+gaming+laptop+15-ec1007na&qid=1613657897&s=computers&sr=1-3

 

Here's how they currently rank in processor (most important for FM):

1989103180_Screenshot2021-02-18at15_37_29.png.79696bb61dca508ce9a99fb703c50386.png

 

 

You can see the Ryzen 5 4600H is miles ahead - in it's base clock speed (3000) - and also in cores/threads (6/12)

 

That's the one I'd go for.

Thankyou so much for your help

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23 hours ago, adam_OAFC said:

Considering buying this. Any thoughts? Was hoping for something a little cheaper £600-650ish) but does this seem to be a good deal? Don't mind paying a bit extra if it's worth it.

Snap it up.  That's an excellent price for the spec, especially given how insane graphics card prices are at the moment.

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5 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

How do you think this will FM21:

 

https://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=1L6F7EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

 

I want to be able to run it at a fairly decent speed, 8-10 leagues ideally. My current laptop doesn't like FM21, it takes a while processing between screens and there's lag whenever you move between screens and what not. It also sends my laptop fans into overdrive.

Should be excellent.  Nice spec.  :thup:

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19 hours ago, TheBigPog said:

Unfortunately neither of the mini pcs turned out to be worthwhile.

Upon further research of the NUC a common complaint was durability- many people seemed to have it die within three years according to a poll and I see many other people have that problem. 

So I went with Beelink, it was very good performance wise and it ran FM relatively well in comparison to my laptop but there was a slight problem. The fan was incredibly noisy even when it was just word or chrome. It made my seven year old Xbox seem as quiet as a mouse, and as someone hearing impaired I could barely hear anything else when I tried to watch anything. It would give me such a headache long term and it can’t be any good in terms durability that the fan is already like that brand new. I will be returning it tomorrow. What a shame. 

I thought I’d go for a desktop pc, it’s not ideal for space but I’d rather if I was going to spend a lot of money have that issue than a fan tediously generating a load of noise. Are there any pcs just as good for the same or preferably lower price? I can jump to 400 but this will mainly be for fm and uni work, hence I don’t want to buy an expensive, absolute powerhouse of a computer. 

https://www.box.co.uk/Lenovo-V530s-07ICR-11BM0028UK-SFF-Busi_2767590.html

It's fairly bulky, but it has a CPU which will handle FM very nicely, but like you would have had with the mini PC's you will likely need to turn the graphics settings down.

The main downside is the fact it's on a HDD rather than an SSD, but given the price this is still a very good deal.

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3 hours ago, kevhamster said:

https://www.box.co.uk/Lenovo-V530s-07ICR-11BM0028UK-SFF-Busi_2767590.html

It's fairly bulky, but it has a CPU which will handle FM very nicely, but like you would have had with the mini PC's you will likely need to turn the graphics settings down.

The main downside is the fact it's on a HDD rather than an SSD, but given the price this is still a very good deal.

A lot better than the other ones I’ve been looking at, could always upgrade parts of it over time if I needed to but looks very good ta.

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12 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Should be excellent.  Nice spec.  :thup:

Cheers mate. What's the difference between dedicated and integrated graphics? What does FM need?

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5 hours ago, bigmattb28 said:

Cheers mate. What's the difference between dedicated and integrated graphics? What does FM need?

Integrated graphics = GPU integrated into the CPU

Dedicated graphics = GPU entirely independent of the CPU

In short, for general gaming you will most likely want a dedicated graphics card.  It is the more capable option.  But modern AMD Ryzen chips do have relatively strong integrated graphics, as do the new Apple M1 chips.  The 11th gen Intel chips are supposed to be strong in this regard as well.  Even with these cases though, a modern dedicated graphics card will still be a lot stronger.

FM itself will run quite nicely on a setup with an integrated GPU, although you will likely need to turn the 3D graphics settings down a little (or a lot).  FM's graphics aren't very demanding, so the graphics requirements are quite modest.

But, if you are thinking of other games besides FM, a dedicated graphics card is generally recommended.

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Hi any help would really be appreciated. Is this any good to run FM21? It doesnt need to load everything in a few seconds a d doesn't need to run loads of different countries leagues (maybe 3/4 different countries max.) 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-15s-eq1540na-15-6-laptop-amd-athlon-silver-128-gb-ssd-black-10220249-pdt.html 

Cheers 

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6 hours ago, DaveTUFC1007 said:

Hi any help would really be appreciated. Is this any good to run FM21? It doesnt need to load everything in a few seconds a d doesn't need to run loads of different countries leagues (maybe 3/4 different countries max.) 

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-15s-eq1540na-15-6-laptop-amd-athlon-silver-128-gb-ssd-black-10220249-pdt.html 

Cheers 

Without even opening the link - it's a 128gb hard drive - too small.

It is way below minimum specs.

This is the cheapest I can find for you https://www.box.co.uk/M509DA-BQ303T-ASUS-VivoBook-15-M509DA-BQ303T_2886176.html

 

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Hi everyone,

This thread is very useful, thanks for the help.

My laptop is near the end of its life, and im looking for a new one. I usually only play one nation but load all available leagues (so usually around 6 leagues), but would like to have the same level of depth but for maybe 3-4 nations. I watch matches on the 2D view only so 3d graphics are not necessary. The most important thing for me is processing speed and not having to wait once ive clicked on something. Would this laptop be suitable for what im looking for? 
 

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_huawei-matebook-d14-r5-8gb-512gb-grijs-1655977.html

 

Thanks

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1 hour ago, squintsworth said:

Hi everyone,

This thread is very useful, thanks for the help.

My laptop is near the end of its life, and im looking for a new one. I usually only play one nation but load all available leagues (so usually around 6 leagues), but would like to have the same level of depth but for maybe 3-4 nations. I watch matches on the 2D view only so 3d graphics are not necessary. The most important thing for me is processing speed and not having to wait once ive clicked on something. Would this laptop be suitable for what im looking for? 
 

https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_huawei-matebook-d14-r5-8gb-512gb-grijs-1655977.html

 

Thanks

It's OK. Meets minimum specs but isn't going to be massively quick. 

If you can afford this, it will offer a much stronger performance: https://www.mediamarkt.nl/nl/product/_lenovo-ideapad-5-15-ryzen-5-16gb-512gb-grijs-1656554.html

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Hello!

 

Anyone here own a laptop with Intel Core i5 1135G7 CPU? Decided to switch from desktop to laptop and this seems like a good CPU to play FM on; but first-hand feedback would be better.

Also it seems that Intel is a way to go with FM? Since its better in single-thread scenarios, if we compare it with the likes of r5-4500u/4600u.

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2 hours ago, NyanOverlord said:

Hello!

 

Anyone here own a laptop with Intel Core i5 1135G7 CPU? Decided to switch from desktop to laptop and this seems like a good CPU to play FM on; but first-hand feedback would be better.

Also it seems that Intel is a way to go with FM? Since its better in single-thread scenarios, if we compare it with the likes of r5-4500u/4600u.

It hasn't been benchmarked on the benchmarking thread

But it's similar to these

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Here's the benchmark spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vp32qrHivL-_auW9D0pp-F7ZvrvQlqtBgfcSOL8n5I/edit#gid=1041602144

Pretty solid performance in the rank of 10 or 11 in the spreadsheet.

Should give good performance for FM.

 

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11 минут назад, Smurf сказал:

It hasn't been benchmarked on the benchmarking thread

But it's similar to these

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Here's the benchmark spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vp32qrHivL-_auW9D0pp-F7ZvrvQlqtBgfcSOL8n5I/edit#gid=1041602144

Pretty solid performance in the rank of 10 or 11 in the spreadsheet.

Should give good performance for FM.

 

Nice! I'll make sure to post my results in that thread once my laptop will arrive

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10 hours ago, Kieact said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-17-by2501na-17-3-laptop-intel-core-i3-1-tb-hdd-silver-10214625-pdt.html
 

will this laptop be able to run fm21 if not can you point me in the direction of one that will for 500 or less thanks

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-a314-22-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-black-10209211-pdt.html

More RAM and notebookcheck scores the CPU higher, so should offer a better performance. 

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Hi

i am looking to buy a new laptop to run football manager along with being able to do my uni work with a budget of around 300-500 can anyone help with any recommendations not very good with this haha will I need a laptop with a disk drive to play fm21? Looking from curry’s or Argos in Uk thanks

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46 minutes ago, Danny717 said:

Hi

i am looking to buy a new laptop to run football manager along with being able to do my uni work with a budget of around 300-500 can anyone help with any recommendations not very good with this haha will I need a laptop with a disk drive to play fm21? Looking from curry’s or Argos in Uk thanks

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8483935

The best deal I can find from Currys or Argos under £500.

A disc drive isn't required for FM. 

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2 hours ago, Danny717 said:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-flex-5-14-2-in-1-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-grey-10208022-pdt.html
 

will this laptop be able to run the fm 21 as well as my uni work haha think I prefer this one to the others?

Yes - but you'll need to switch Windows out of S mode using these instructions: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-10-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307

S mode means you can only download and install programs from the Microsoft Store, so Steam/Epic and by extension FM, cannot be installed whilst it is in S mode.

Very good processor in that machine.

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1 hour ago, kevhamster said:

Yes - but you'll need to switch Windows out of S mode using these instructions: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-10-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307

S mode means you can only download and install programs from the Microsoft Store, so Steam/Epic and by extension FM, cannot be installed whilst it is in S mode.

Very good processor in that machine.

Why would they bundle Windows S with that machine?  That's crazy

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Hello Everyone,

This is a great thread,

I am looking for a laptop for preferably no more than £500 but willing to go up to £600 if coughing up the extra cash is worth it!

My computer is on its last legs and has been dying a slow death for the last 6 months, I got it for Christmas well back in 2016 in order to help me with my GCSES and schoolwork. Now with education finished I am working from home so need a good laptop for that as well as football manager 2021 which I usually rack up a few thousand hours a year. But that is the only PC Game I play. 

I went on UserBenchmark to see my current PC's spec, and I was in for a real shock, gaming was 1%, desktop was 29% and workstation was 0%! So anything is probably an upgrade!

I would prefer a laptop from Curry's or Argos as they are both local to me, and can hopefully order to pick up next day!

Thanks

 

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3 hours ago, Danny717 said:

First one is ok - you'd need to break it out of Windows S mode - easy to do.

Second one - not bad

Third one - it's a chromebook and wouldn't be able to play FM.

 

Check out below here - person with similar request.

 

2 minutes ago, Ben2002 said:

Hello Everyone,

This is a great thread,

I am looking for a laptop for preferably no more than £500 but willing to go up to £600 if coughing up the extra cash is worth it!

My computer is on its last legs and has been dying a slow death for the last 6 months, I got it for Christmas well back in 2016 in order to help me with my GCSES and schoolwork. Now with education finished I am working from home so need a good laptop for that as well as football manager 2021 which I usually rack up a few thousand hours a year. But that is the only PC Game I play. 

I went on UserBenchmark to see my current PC's spec, and I was in for a real shock, gaming was 1%, desktop was 29% and workstation was 0%! So anything is probably an upgrade!

I would prefer a laptop from Curry's or Argos as they are both local to me, and can hopefully order to pick up next day!

Thanks

 

Best I can find in your price range 

https://www.box.co.uk/M413DA-EB211T-ASUS-VivoBook-14-M413DA-EB211T_2954892.html

 

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11 minutes ago, Smurf said:

First one is ok - you'd need to break it out of Windows S mode - easy to do.

Second one - not bad

Third one - it's a chromebook and wouldn't be able to play FM.

 

Check out below here - person with similar request.

 

Best I can find in your price range 

https://www.box.co.uk/M413DA-EB211T-ASUS-VivoBook-14-M413DA-EB211T_2954892.html

 

Thanks mate is that the right one you’ve sent me https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-m413da-14-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-512-gb-ssd-grey-10212928-pdt.html

 

can only buy from curry’s got voucher for there haha 

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24 minutes ago, Smurf said:

First one is ok - you'd need to break it out of Windows S mode - easy to do.

Second one - not bad

Third one - it's a chromebook and wouldn't be able to play FM.

 

Check out below here - person with similar request.

 

Best I can find in your price range 

https://www.box.co.uk/M413DA-EB211T-ASUS-VivoBook-14-M413DA-EB211T_2954892.html

 

Thanks for the advice, my computer knowledge is near enough non existent, I also found this at Currys and it looks fairly similar

Buy ACER Aspire 5 A514-52 14" Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, 256 GB SSD, Black | Free Delivery | Currys

Would this do as good as a job as the one you recommended me?

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28 minutes ago, Ben2002 said:

Thanks for the advice, my computer knowledge is near enough non existent, I also found this at Currys and it looks fairly similar

Buy ACER Aspire 5 A514-52 14" Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, 256 GB SSD, Black | Free Delivery | Currys

Would this do as good as a job as the one you recommended me?

I'd still go with the one Smurf recommended.  Better CPU, better integrated graphics capability and twice the storage.  And it's cheaper too.

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2 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd still go with the one Smurf recommended.  Better CPU, better integrated graphics capability and twice the storage.  And it's cheaper too.

Think I will go ahead and purchase the recommended one then, thanks for yours and @Smurf help!

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