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I've been in doubt for a while to make a switch from my current desktop to a gaming laptop. Mainly because of the ease of mobility that a laptop has. Budget is not really an issue. Mainly, the laptop would be used for FM (just like my current desktop, which I have now for about 5 years). I only want to make the switch if I don't lose performance in terms of game speed. In fact, I would prefer to improve on that.

Good to know is is that I like to play my games with many countries and leagues loaded. Ideally, I'd like to load every single nation and competition with a bunch of leagues running in full detail. I don't know much about specifications, so your advice would be very welcome.

 

My current desktop specs are as following:

  • Intel Core i7 4790K
  • RAM 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
  • GeForce GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5

 

Laptops that I'm eyeballing at:

 

Acer Aspire 7 A715-75G-743V

  • Intel Core i7 10750H
  • RAM 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
  • GeForce GTX 1650

 

Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05H 81Y80049MH

  • Intel Core i7 10750H
  • RAM 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
  • GeForce RTX 2060

 

Custom builded:

  • Intel Core i7 10875H
  • RAM 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
  • GeForce RTX 2070

 

Would you recommend a switch to a laptop based on these specs? Feedback and other suggestions are more than welcome!

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On 21/11/2020 at 11:57, BukyOHare said:

Kevhamster / Smurf,

I am looking for a laptop around the £500 - £700 range, that will handle FM easily enough (obviously) but also be suitable for the kids' homework / general browsing and perhaps Franchise Hockey Manager or Out of the Park Baseball in the short term.

Ideally from Currys, AO or similar as I can get some decent cashback offers from them. But generally whatever you think's best.

I had thought of the following as a token offering to the conversation with my limited knowledge of these things.:lol:

https://ao.com/product/x512daej911t-asus-laptop-grey-73656-251.aspx

 

You guys do a fantastic job, thank you so much in advance.

Just as a follow up to my reply to you this morning kev, this one's still available at Currys. I know its had good shout outs previously in the thread, thoughts currently?

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16 minutes ago, vkastanas said:

Nice list thanks.

Does micro ATX mobo fits to my ATX tower?

All these compartible with Gen 6 processors?

Items without a price are not sold anymore or out of stock?

You could ask them - I don't know and don't want to put you wrong.

12 minutes ago, Gilberto Silva said:

anyone?

Looks really good.

7 minutes ago, Grumblewatcher said:

I've been in doubt for a while to make a switch from my current desktop to a gaming laptop. Mainly because of the ease of mobility that a laptop has. Budget is not really an issue. Mainly, the laptop would be used for FM (just like my current desktop, which I have now for about 5 years). I only want to make the switch if I don't lose performance in terms of game speed. In fact, I would prefer to improve on that.

Good to know is is that I like to play my games with many countries and leagues loaded. Ideally, I'd like to load every single nation and competition with a bunch of leagues running in full detail. I don't know much about specifications, so your advice would be very welcome.

 

My current desktop specs are as following:

  • Intel Core i7 4790K
  • RAM 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
  • GeForce GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5

 

Laptops that I'm eyeballing at:

 

Acer Aspire 7 A715-75G-743V

  • Intel Core i7 10750H
  • RAM 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
  • GeForce GTX 1650

 

Lenovo Legion 5 17IMH05H 81Y80049MH

  • Intel Core i7 10750H
  • RAM 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)
  • GeForce RTX 2060

 

Custom builded:

  • Intel Core i7 10875H
  • RAM 32 GB (2 x 16 GB)
  • GeForce RTX 2070

 

Would you recommend a switch to a laptop based on these specs? Feedback and other suggestions are more than welcome!

The 10875H is the best of them - and the graphics card is good too.

 

1 minute ago, BukyOHare said:

Yep - good

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12 minutes ago, Gilberto Silva said:

anyone?

The very first post post in the thread should answer any queries relating to the number of leagues. In short its open to subjectivity so what might be acceptable for you, might not be for somebody else.

Rightly, the guys are not passing opinion on that. Hope that helps from that point of view.

 

 

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Just now, Smurf said:

You could ask them - I don't know and don't want to put you wrong.

Looks really good.

The 10875H is the best of them - and the graphics card is good too.

 

Yep - good

Thanks Smurf, much appreciated. As an aside, how impressive were the Dubs yesterday against Meath in the Leinster final?

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

The 10875H is the best of them - and the graphics card is good too.

Thanks. How do you estimate the performance of the 10875H compared to my current desktop? I find it very difficult to estimate whether it is worth the investment.

 

Your help is much appreciated :)

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1 minute ago, BukyOHare said:

Thanks Smurf, much appreciated. As an aside, how impressive were the Dubs yesterday against Meath in the Leinster final?

I wouldn't know - I don't watch them, but I'm from Dublin but live in Meath! So I would have been torn! 

 

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5 minutes ago, Grumblewatcher said:

Thanks. How do you estimate the performance of the 10875H compared to my current desktop? I find it very difficult to estimate whether it is worth the investment.

 

Your help is much appreciated :)

It's very easy - just go to https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

Tick the two processors and hit the Restrict button

The i7 10875h is ranked 27 and about 70 positions above the 4790k

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You can also use a site like this https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-i7-10875H/2275vs3726

And compare any two processors

 

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8 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I wouldn't know - I don't watch them, but I'm from Dublin but live in Meath! So I would have been torn! 

 

Just noticed Currys do an core i5 and Ryzen 5 models. Only £20 between them, is there much difference generally in your opinion? 116 places in the Notebookcheck table for what it's worth.

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26 minutes ago, BukyOHare said:

Just noticed Currys do an core i5 and Ryzen 5 models. Only £20 between them, is there much difference generally in your opinion? 116 places in the Notebookcheck table for what it's worth.

Depends on the models, i5 is just an indicator of performance, typically i5s and Ryzen 5 don't support hyperthreading. 

For the past six years, Intel's Core i5 family has offered four cores without Hyper-Threading, and the Core i7 family offered four cores with Hyper-Threading. Hyper-Threading allows two simultaneous “virtual” cores for each physical core and shares the workload between them.

 

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1 hour ago, Gilberto Silva said:

anyone?

In terms of graphics, it'll be ample. 

In terms of how many leagues, this is something we don't comment on, purely because how acceptable processing speed is, is entirely subjective. But it's an excellent CPU in that laptop. 

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Hi all,

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for daily browsing, media and FM. The major factors for me are thermal and I find it important that the CPU (and the laptop in general) does not heat up too much and that the fans don't get too loud. After doing a lot of research, I have decided that the Lenovo Legion 5 would best fit my needs. I am currently considering three different configurations of this laptop, all of which have 16 GB RAM and an RTX 2060 GPU:

1: Ryzen 5 4600H (£ 960)

512 GB SSB, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

2: Ryzen 7 4800H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

3: Intel i7-10750H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 300 Hz 500 nits screen.

My immediate thoughts are that the 4600H model offers best value for money, but I guess what I would appreciate any input on is (1) whether the better performance offered by the 4800H and 10750H would be noticeable during FM gameplay and (2) whether an AMD CPU on a general basis would be expected to stay cooler than the Intel alternative. I have read a lot of articles and reviews comparing Ryzen and Intel processors, and it is still not entirely clear to me which of the two can be expected to produce the most heat (for the same performance level).

Thank you in advance!   

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10 hours ago, bryn23 said:

It'll be interesting to see how Intel evolves, they need to up their game, maybe even look at moving away from X86

It would be amazing to see SI optimise FM for the ARM (M1 chipsets) seeing good speeds on the laptops, but optimising  it for ARM would have to be around an 50% speed increase bypassing rosetta 2

hopefully we will see 2022 optimised verison :D

 

 

 

I think 50% is extremely optimisic! Given even under Rossetta the performance is comparable

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28 minutes ago, Tyggis said:

Hi all,

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for daily browsing, media and FM. The major factors for me are thermal and I find it important that the CPU (and the laptop in general) does not heat up too much and that the fans don't get too loud. After doing a lot of research, I have decided that the Lenovo Legion 5 would best fit my needs. I am currently considering three different configurations of this laptop, all of which have 16 GB RAM and an RTX 2060 GPU:

1: Ryzen 5 4600H (£ 960)

512 GB SSB, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

2: Ryzen 7 4800H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

3: Intel i7-10750H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 300 Hz 500 nits screen.

My immediate thoughts are that the 4600H model offers best value for money, but I guess what I would appreciate any input on is (1) whether the better performance offered by the 4800H and 10750H would be noticeable during FM gameplay and (2) whether an AMD CPU on a general basis would be expected to stay cooler than the Intel alternative. I have read a lot of articles and reviews comparing Ryzen and Intel processors, and it is still not entirely clear to me which of the two can be expected to produce the most heat (for the same performance level).

Thank you in advance!   

All roughly the same - but the 4800H would be the better

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-4800H-vs-Intel-i7-10750H/3708vs3676vs3657

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29 minutes ago, Viddek said:

Has anybody bought the MacBook Air 2020 with M1 (Not a Pro, I saw the benchmark of the Pro in the FM20 Thread) and can say anything about the performance? :)

Not that we know of. It should run fine - the new M1 chip is the same in both - only difference is no fan for cooling - so might have a bit of throttling. But should be ok. It's impossible to know or tell you anything.

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1 hour ago, Tyggis said:

Hi all,

I'm currently looking for a new laptop for daily browsing, media and FM. The major factors for me are thermal and I find it important that the CPU (and the laptop in general) does not heat up too much and that the fans don't get too loud. After doing a lot of research, I have decided that the Lenovo Legion 5 would best fit my needs. I am currently considering three different configurations of this laptop, all of which have 16 GB RAM and an RTX 2060 GPU:

1: Ryzen 5 4600H (£ 960)

512 GB SSB, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

2: Ryzen 7 4800H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 144 Hz 300 nits screen.

3: Intel i7-10750H (£ 1,330)

1 TB SSD, 300 Hz 500 nits screen.

My immediate thoughts are that the 4600H model offers best value for money, but I guess what I would appreciate any input on is (1) whether the better performance offered by the 4800H and 10750H would be noticeable during FM gameplay and (2) whether an AMD CPU on a general basis would be expected to stay cooler than the Intel alternative. I have read a lot of articles and reviews comparing Ryzen and Intel processors, and it is still not entirely clear to me which of the two can be expected to produce the most heat (for the same performance level).

Thank you in advance!   

EDIT: Smurf already answered. And sorry can't remove the tag below on mobile for some reason. 

@EdL

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3 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html

This site actually ranks the Ryzen 5 higher than the Ryzen 7. 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-4800H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m1032976vsm1110331

This one ranks the Ryzen 7 a little higher. 

This would suggest to me that the performance between them is quite similar, and based on that I'd go for the Ryzen 5 given the difference in price. 

One of the SI staff, think possibly @EdL mentioned that the Intel chips are worse in terms of heat generation currently. I can't fairly comment as the two main computers I use both have AMD chips, but I have no reason to doubt this as I'd assume they have enough first hand experience to pass comment on that! 

What am I missing here?

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

What am I missing here?

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I can only guess I misread the screen at the time, or something weird happened with me reading it on mobile..... I did subsequently edit the post to remove it when I realised you'd already given a detailed reply.

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3 hours ago, EdL said:

I think 50% is extremely optimisic! Given even under Rossetta the performance is comparable

Yeah it is, but even a 25-30% increase in performance would be welcome.

it'll be interesting to see, as the improvements to optimising other X86 apps have been quite impressive.

 

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3 hours ago, Smurf said:

What am I missing here?

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Thanks, both, for your quick replies! I thought originally that the single core performance of the i7-10750H would well beat the AMD models for most tasks (including FM) other than heavy multimedia work, video editing etc., but I understand that the 4600H would likely be sufficient for FM purposes at least when taking price into account.

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hello guys need a bit of help, my current laptop isn't cutting the mustard playing fm 21 beta so what would be the best out of the below 

ACER Aspire 5 A514-52 14" Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, 256 GB SSD, 

ASUS TUF FX505GT 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, GTX 1650, 512 GB SSD

Dell Inspiron 15 3000AMD Ryzen 5-2500U

thank you in advance. 

andy

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Just having a trawl around and came across this https://deals.dell.com/en-uk/productdetail/65pq which runs the new Intel chip with integrated Iris XE graphics. Apparently able to play some serious games at decent frame rates etc 

   and outperforms some low end dedicated graphics cards. https://uk.pcmag.com/sound-cards/128456/intels-iris-xe-graphics-preview-is-real-gaming-power-in-reach-for-thin-and-light-laptops

it would be interesting to see how it would run FM 3D matches. 

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6 minutes ago, andyo said:

hello guys need a bit of help, my current laptop isn't cutting the mustard playing fm 21 beta so what would be the best out of the below 

ACER Aspire 5 A514-52 14" Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, 256 GB SSD, 

ASUS TUF FX505GT 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i5, GTX 1650, 512 GB SSD

Dell Inspiron 15 3000AMD Ryzen 5-2500U

thank you in advance. 

andy

I'd suspect the Asus, but none of them have complete specs listed so I can't say for sure. 

I'd disregard the Dell. I have a laptop with that same processor and it does seem to get throttled quite heavily when playing FM based on my benchmarking tests with it. 

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On 21/11/2020 at 16:35, Smurf said:

Price: £1,240.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/nova-15/UPuEy8RvAy/

 

I am a bit over but wanted the 3600 which is not in stock. On my phone in the car so not sure if this cuts the mustard. What do you think?

I've had a look through this thread for some advice & this seems to be catching my eye the most. Seems like the best value considering the CPU. Would it be worth going for the AMD Ryzen 9 3900 rather than the 7 3700X you've selected? Doesn't seem to be a big difference in price.

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Would adding RAM help in increased number of league?

Im thinking of increasing from 16gb to 32gb or 64gb

Also, would upgrading to faster RAM increase game speed, say 2933mhz to 3200mhz?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.

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1 hour ago, Sweetleftfoot said:

Would adding RAM help in increased number of league?

Im thinking of increasing from 16gb to 32gb or 64gb

Also, would upgrading to faster RAM increase game speed, say 2933mhz to 3200mhz?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.

Increasing from 16GB to anything above that will not see any benefit for FM.

Increasing the RAM speed may see some benefit, but there's no guarantee (and to be honest I assume any difference between 2933 to 3200MHz would be negligible).  You would also need to ensure your motherboard and CPU support the faster RAM speed, otherwise you'd be wasting your money.

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1 hour ago, WeePaul said:

I've had a look through this thread for some advice & this seems to be catching my eye the most. Seems like the best value considering the CPU. Would it be worth going for the AMD Ryzen 9 3900 rather than the 7 3700X you've selected? Doesn't seem to be a big difference in price.

They are both very high end CPUs and both are near the top of the charts here:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html?

If you can afford the extra for the Ryzen 9 3900 (which seems to only be £50) I'd say you may as well go for it.  Equally, you're not going to be disappointed with what the Ryzen 7 3700x can do.

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1 hour ago, andyo said:

This one, by quite some distance: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-laptops/asus-tuf-fx505gt-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-512-gb-ssd-10208029-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=illapmwlp&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - BTE 2020~0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - BTE 2020 ad group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700058887941316&tgtid=0073 (Shopping Ads) PC Gaming HW - BTE 2020&&gclid=CjwKCAiAtej9BRAvEiwA0UAWXhS-FHwB336fjhBiwUviULxRIrmrwHDUNuHYSKmijxFNXV2-Uo1A9RoCMF4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Best CPU of the bunch and a dedicated graphics card so it'll be best equipped for the 3D match graphics.  Twice the storage of the others too.

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2 hours ago, Marki said:

Just having a trawl around and came across this https://deals.dell.com/en-uk/productdetail/65pq which runs the new Intel chip with integrated Iris XE graphics. Apparently able to play some serious games at decent frame rates etc 

   and outperforms some low end dedicated graphics cards. https://uk.pcmag.com/sound-cards/128456/intels-iris-xe-graphics-preview-is-real-gaming-power-in-reach-for-thin-and-light-laptops

it would be interesting to see how it would run FM 3D matches. 

If the claims in the article are true, then it should have little issue with the 3D matches at higher settings.  It is entirely plausible - AMD have shown for quite some time it's possible to get good graphics performance from an integrated GPU and the new M1 chips from Apple have proven seriously capable too.  It does seem to show that Intel are waking up in this regard, and this can only be a good thing.

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10 hours ago, kevhamster said:

Increasing from 16GB to anything above that will not see any benefit for FM.

Increasing the RAM speed may see some benefit, but there's no guarantee (and to be honest I assume any difference between 2933 to 3200MHz would be negligible).  You would also need to ensure your motherboard and CPU support the faster RAM speed, otherwise you'd be wasting your money.

Cool will keep that in mind.

Less then 16 hour to go for the full games to release 😀🥳💻👨🏻‍💻

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2 hours ago, Lemoche said:

I wouldn't go for that - you have a tiny amount of storage and the CPU is OK, but you can get better for the same price.

Here's an example: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/aYWd40HDKN/

Better CPU, and a workable amount of storage.

Factoring in delivery to France, it is an extra 30 euros, but you could make it the same price by dropping it to 8GB RAM, or changing the storage from 512GB to 256GB (which in fairness would still be OK if you're only using it for FM).

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Hey guys. I’m terrible with computers, I don’t have a pc currently but I’m looking into getting a mini pc but I’m not sure what will run fm 21. I’ve seen a lot of mini pc running intel hd graphics 400/500. Is that any use? Really need your help. Screenshots below? Thank you 

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3 minutes ago, Tuggzy7 said:

Hey guys. I’m terrible with computers, I don’t have a pc currently but I’m looking into getting a mini pc but I’m not sure what will run fm 21. I’ve seen a lot of mini pc running intel hd graphics 400/500. Is that any use? Really need your help. Screenshots below? Thank you 

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Just from the processor speed being a bit below the minimum requirements, I'm going to say no, and if it could, it'd run it badly.

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8 minutes ago, Tuggzy7 said:

Thanks bud 

yeah an Atom is a very weak CPU type, with Intel you want to be using at least an i3/5/7/9 etc series, atom/pentium/celeron brands are poor.

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On 22/11/2020 at 09:48, kevhamster said:

There's nothing sinister about Currys PC World, it's just that often you can get better deals in other places. They'll be no worse with bloatware than other retailers, as it's the manufacturers who add this rather than the retailer. 

This is literally £1 over the budget, but it's a good spec: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/ddc3BB8zr2/

If that is too much, this is my next suggestion. There's no dedicated graphics card on this one, but the integrated graphics on the Ryzen 5 3400G is very strong for an integrated GPU: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/4mMBFTR!U6/

Hi

Thanks for the reply.  What are we looking at here in terms of performance? I know you can't say these machine will run x amount of leagues but are they decent machine for FM21 or good machines etc?

Also I should have mentioned this previously but I have no real interest in the 3d match engine as I'm fine with the 2D.  Not sure if I could say save a little on a worse graphics card to get a little better in terms of processing?

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7 minutes ago, Nozzer said:

Hi

Thanks for the reply.  What are we looking at here in terms of performance? I know you can't say these machine will run x amount of leagues but are they decent machine for FM21 or good machines etc?

Also I should have mentioned this previously but I have no real interest in the 3d match engine as I'm fine with the 2D.  Not sure if I could say save a little on a worse graphics card to get a little better in terms of processing?

Side by side - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3592vs3498

The 3500x is miles better. 

You have a spreadsheet here in this thread - and you should be ranking in around place 6 with the 3500x and the 3400g - probably around 30ish

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Nozzer said:

Hi

Thanks for the reply.  What are we looking at here in terms of performance? I know you can't say these machine will run x amount of leagues but are they decent machine for FM21 or good machines etc?

Also I should have mentioned this previously but I have no real interest in the 3d match engine as I'm fine with the 2D.  Not sure if I could say save a little on a worse graphics card to get a little better in terms of processing?

In that case, my suggestion would be this: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-home-office/3Nm!ZZz0pV/

Excellent CPU - it does require a dedicated graphics card as it has no onboard graphics on the chip, so I've dialled it down to make it within the budget.

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5 minutes ago, akers29 said:

In the market this Friday for a 13inch laptop for mostly FM. Around £900-£1000. I was nearly totally sold on the new Macbook Air but this has appeared and now I'm stuck. Any advice?

That processor wont' cut it. The new MacBook with the M1 chips tested pretty well in the Benchmark Thread - it was the MacBook Pro though, so not sure how it will differ. For one the MacBook Air has no fan (what Apple calls Active Cooling), and with no fan there's a chance it might throttle the processor when under load. 

But other than that - the 13 inch model computers, I haven't seen anything good enough for FM except the new Macs.

 

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1 minute ago, Smurf said:

That processor wont' cut it. The new MacBook with the M1 chips tested pretty well in the Benchmark Thread - it was the MacBook Pro though, so not sure how it will differ. For one the MacBook Air has no fan (what Apple calls Active Cooling), and with no fan there's a chance it might throttle the processor when under load. 

But other than that - the 13 inch model computers, I haven't seen anything good enough for FM except the new Macs.

 

Perfect, thank you.

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16 minutes ago, akers29 said:

In the market this Friday for a 13inch laptop for mostly FM. Around £900-£1000. I was nearly totally sold on the new Macbook Air but this has appeared and now I'm stuck. Any advice?

Looking on the site - the new intel processor is there https://www.ebuyer.com/1128781-razer-blade-stealth-13-core-i7-16gb-512gb-ssd-gtx-1650ti-maxq-rz09-03272w82-r3w1

It's a bit more expensive. But you do get the graphics card to go with it. 

It looks a beast. 

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Hi..Im looking for advice regarding these 2 laptops if they would be decent for running FM21. Thanks

HUAWEI MateBook D 14 - 14 Inch Laptop with FullView 1080P FHD Ultrabook PC (AMD Ryzen 5, 8 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, Windows 10 Home, Multi-screen Collaboration, Fingerprint Reader), Space Grey: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-MateBook-2020-Multi-screen-Collaboration/dp/B083T5HFPX

 

HONOR MagicBook 14 - 14 Inch Laptop w/ FullView 1080P Screen, All-Day Battery, 65 W Fast Charger, Fingerprint Login & Recessed Camera (AMD Ryzen 5, 8 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, Windows 10 Home) Mystic Silver: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HONOR-MagicBook-14-FullView-Fingerprint/dp/B085JCJVQX

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19 hours ago, kevhamster said:

They are both very high end CPUs and both are near the top of the charts here:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html?

If you can afford the extra for the Ryzen 9 3900 (which seems to only be £50) I'd say you may as well go for it.  Equally, you're not going to be disappointed with what the Ryzen 7 3700x can do.

 

I had a look at their comparison & something I noticed is that they're desktop CPUs. Are there any potential issues with having one of them in a laptop, heating problems or anything like that? 

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

Side by side - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3500X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3400G/3592vs3498

The 3500x is miles better. 

You have a spreadsheet here in this thread - and you should be ranking in around place 6 with the 3500x and the 3400g - probably around 30ish

 

 

Thank you for bringing this up - I was not aware of this thread before. 

I'm quite surprised by some of the results in this thread, in particular how similarly ranked the Ryzen 4800H and 4600H are, considering the general dominance of the 4800H in common benchmarks, see below:

4800H:

01:16 09:18 07:29

4600H:

01:17 09:08 08:07

Is this simply because of FM not being able to take sufficient advantage of the extra corse and threads of the 4800H? The 4600H has more cache and the clocking frequency is about the same. After all I've read on this over the past few weeks, it is still unclear to me at what extent FM is able to make use of multiple cores.

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